SoF announcement regarding NA - Earth Empires Forum

Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 11:33:04

SoF hereby declares our pact with NA void, we have no wish to war you but we WILL make a stance against cheating perhaps if your president hadnt been aware and in on these actions along with a few members we wouldnt have done this but cheating at the very highest level of your leadership will not be tolerated

if you do want pacts with us in the future i strongly suggest that the rest of NA's leadership takes the appropriate actions to make sure this never happends again.

For the NA members who doesnt condone cheating and is looking for a new home we are very willing to provide you a cheating free enviroment for netters and warriors.

Ivan
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TAN

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May 9th 2010, 11:36:03

SoF is inviting netters?

Maybe the game HAS changed...

FREEEEEDOM!!!

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 11:36:17

cry me a river Ivan I am at the highest level of leadership and that didn't happen.

still want me to join SoF? ;)

Edited By: Detoxxx on May 9th 2010, 11:38:49

Detox[HoW]

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Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 11:36:41

Edited By: Detoxxx on May 9th 2010, 11:38:36

Detox[HoW]

NA Senate

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 11:37:06

bah...

Edited By: Detoxxx on May 9th 2010, 11:37:29

Detox[HoW]

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Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 11:39:10

When did they make you president? being a senate member and being president is very different

and go a head and join sol

lol

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 11:46:44

I'm SENATE and IA in NA since 2006. I guess I must expecting a big conspiracy llaar did around the Senate on his own for 4 years. If i believed that, then I believe the bank, UFO and the oil conspiracies people with too much time on their hands believe in. :|

Detox[HoW]

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Drow

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May 9th 2010, 11:49:14

see now I remember an ex NA member coming on these forums about systematic cheating by NA leaders a while back... 4 years would in fact include that time :)
Just a case of it looking like you were finally caught out.

Paradigm President of failed speeling

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 11:52:33

wow! Drow! you have proof now? you used sentences...so IT MUST BE TRUE!

Detox[HoW]

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Drow

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May 9th 2010, 11:56:50

detoxxx
remember ashlynn by any chance?
funniest thing is, everyone laughed at her back then...
what a surprise that all of a sudden NA leaders are *gasp* getting caught cheating.

Paradigm President of failed speeling

TAN

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May 9th 2010, 11:58:52

gawd that chick was crazy.

she had like 50,000 myspace pictures or something.

FREEEEEDOM!!!

Drow

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May 9th 2010, 12:55:34

oh no doubt she was crazy... but she exposed NA back then, and quit NA specifically because of it, and got laughed into the ground.

Paradigm President of failed speeling

Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 13:40:17

Actually NA had quite a few deletions back in the early sets of Earth Council if i remember right

And Ashlynn was beyond nuts :P

TAN

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May 9th 2010, 14:13:02

Nah I think Ashlynn quit because her and Bug had problems and she decided to either make fluff up or air dirty laundry. I'm not absolutely certain on that though.

FREEEEEDOM!!!

MorTcuS

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May 9th 2010, 14:49:30

There should be more threads like this. Good ole drama llamas.

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spawn

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May 9th 2010, 15:21:44

funny, FA talk on AT and SoF "breaking" an other pact...

have you actually talked to any of the other leaders about their actions against cheaters in NA before nullifying your pact Ivan? just curious...

/slap iZarcon

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Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 15:29:15

Ive talked to plenty of ppl and sof isnt breaking a pact since we arent hitting them we are voiding the pact with no plans to hit them if they hit us thats fine by me

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 15:31:54

SoF and SOL have a history of breaking pacts. why not this time too? they have proof (not necessarily good proof, but still).

you'd say their MO taught them something:

1. Closing pact for fear of an FS
2. Finding a reason (doesn't even have to be a good one either, just some reason)
3. FSing someone
4. Getting beat down sets in a row and losing half their membership along one set.
5. Retaking point 1 thinking they are good war clans.

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Detox[HoW]

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Thomas

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May 9th 2010, 15:44:41

If the cheating didn't happen on Alliance server, why would you break pacts with them? Carrying over things from other servers is pretty lame.

Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 15:54:39

They have a president who took part in cheating, thats all I need to know and it saddens me that you as an offical speaker for an alliance supports cheating but then I didnt have any higher thoughts about you before this so im not really suprised either

Ivan

As for Detox, you dont really know what you are talking about

fluff!

PraetorNLS

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May 9th 2010, 15:57:58

SOL does detoxx ? go back and read more earth history, please give me examples , i expect alot of them since we have a "history"

Praetor - disqualified from the human race for being three laps ahead in the second round.

AoS

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May 9th 2010, 16:01:58

It's funny too, that SoF and SoL don't work together or anything, but they do everything in tandem. You guys swear up and down that saying SoLF is wrong, but you keep re-enforcing the notion that you guys sex each other in the bottom.

The dreamer is banished to obscurity.

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 16:08:19

so I am not the only crazy person around...

Detox[HoW]

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Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 16:28:37

I think its sad that more alliances hasnt brought this up for discussion in their leadership and made proclamations just like this

but then, both NA and Collab has known cheaters among their ranks so perhaps they dont take this as seriously as we do

fluff!

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 16:30:57

so does sol, sof and pdm for that matter ;)

want me to point some Ivan? :D

Edited By: Detoxxx on May 9th 2010, 16:31:24

Detox[HoW]

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AoS

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May 9th 2010, 16:32:52

Most people put thought before their actions, Ivan.

And don't try to claim that's what you did, we all know it's a filthy lie.

The dreamer is banished to obscurity.

Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 16:34:43

Please go a head, tell me which of sofs leaders that has been cheating in the past

feel free to do it here, im too lazy to find the post where Axa said that he ran multies back in earth2025 alliance but its around here

so now im eagerly expecting proof that one of us did the same

fluff

Ayahuasca

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May 9th 2010, 18:31:32

wasn't ashlynn really a guy?

AxAlar

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May 9th 2010, 19:16:44

Ivan - two things

1) Thomas' opinion doesn't equate to Collaborations overall opinion. As you can see in the other thread, I supported SOL's actions.

2) We have known cheaters? Like who? Since when? and what proof have you? The last time I ran multiple countries was 2004. You can ask the game mods, I've reported my own players and investigated my own players with them previously.

So pretty much fluff you Ivan.

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smikke

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May 9th 2010, 19:34:08

Someone actually cares about SoF pacts?

Ivan

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May 9th 2010, 19:38:40

What im saying is that you have admited to it, tbh I didnt even know you had but afaik not 1 single sof leader ever has so thomas really shouldnt be here accusing us of stupid fluff

SoF isnt doing fluff, we are voiding a pact we arent fsing them or anything else if they choose to hit us thats up to them but we are making a stand against cheaters if another case like this happends we will void our pact with said alliance and have no issues fsing them even if means breaking a pact

fluff

AxAlar

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May 9th 2010, 19:42:41

Hey, everyone makes mistakes. I was like 16 ;p

I didnt realize that my actions may not have been conducive for the game at the time.

As far as I read on the post, Thomas didnt accuse you of doing anything. Pretty sure the only thing he did was pose a question.

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Thomas

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May 9th 2010, 20:32:56

Originally posted by Ivan:

Ivan:

I wasn't instigating anything. It was a question. You guys broke the pact because they cheated on another server, or were they caught on this server as well? I don't have time to check...

Edited By: Thomas on May 9th 2010, 20:53:19

Thomas

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May 9th 2010, 20:34:30

Originally posted by AxAlar:

Yeah I wasn't instigating anything or trolling. My comments were taken the wrong way, which I guess I can understand why Ivan took it that way since we have a mutual dislike for each other :P

And to my knowledge they haven't been caught cheating on THIS server, right? Or did I miss that? Not like it matters, just curious at this point.

Thomas

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May 9th 2010, 20:37:34

double post

Edited By: Thomas on May 9th 2010, 20:53:27

warlorde

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May 9th 2010, 21:01:55

NA never cheated Thomas

Detoxxx

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May 9th 2010, 21:05:39

it doesn't matter to them as long as they are singing to themselves what it suits them. "fluff up, fluff down, everyone is fluff, only we are whiter than Snow White."

Detox[HoW]

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spawn

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May 9th 2010, 21:58:40

they got deleted for the account sharing they did, to cheat in FFA Thomas.

/slap iZarcon

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madjsp

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May 9th 2010, 22:14:08

Hahaha, like NaturalS has any pull...

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archaic

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May 10th 2010, 1:01:46

I hereby take back every bad thing I have ever said about SOF (and there have been a bunch).

Congrats on taking a stand Ivan.

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Thomas

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May 10th 2010, 1:03:44

Originally posted by warlorde:

NA never cheated Thomas

Technically it wasn't NA, just leaders & members from LaE who were also in NA?

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May 10th 2010, 1:54:25

And the truth shall set you free!

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morwen

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May 10th 2010, 9:34:04

you're not seriously bringing up Ashlynn as a ''witness" for the cheating, are you?

lol.

PraetorNLS

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May 10th 2010, 11:16:13

Im still waiting detox

"Know cheaters in SOL leadership"
You refering to Me , Bart or Darkmere ?
and reasons , thank you.

"SOL has a history of pact breaking"
where`s the list ?

Praetor - disqualified from the human race for being three laps ahead in the second round.

torment

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May 10th 2010, 11:27:28

Yep Anders.

Your the big cheater in sol. Along with diginubs the two of you run some 60 countries! He confessed to me.

Dont deny it now:p

PraetorNLS

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May 10th 2010, 11:39:04

caught pants down :(

Praetor - disqualified from the human race for being three laps ahead in the second round.

torment

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May 10th 2010, 11:51:41

It's the only reason your 'three laps ahead' as you put it!

Detoxxx

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May 10th 2010, 13:36:20

Originally posted by Ivan:

Originally posted by Detoxxx:

so does sol, sof and pdm for that matter ;)

want me to point some Ivan? :D

RANKS! You mean you don't have in your midst players accused of cheating, or proven cheaters? Don't be a dolt by insulting your own intelligence.

2. Breaking pacts.

Want me to give you...what? Screen shots? I remember at least three times SOL and/or SoF breaking pacts with NA and/or any other clans. Is it or isn't that the truth?

Detox[HoW]

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Devestation

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May 10th 2010, 14:23:40

/me trolls

Sifos

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May 10th 2010, 14:33:08

Originally posted by Devestation:

/me trolls

OMG TROLL!

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