Drow I think you are mistaken if you think we are "going to roll in it". It is that attitude which lead to this set, I suggest you re-evaluate it for next set or you might not like the result.

List of stupid things to do to an alliance you don't want to war with:

1) Defuse their missiles. (check)
2) FS them when you were told specifically by their president they would not attack you. (check)
3) Lie on the At that you didn't defuse the missiles. (check)
4) Insult the alliance slaughtering you, after you started the war. (check)
5) Telling them you're going to get them in future rounds (check)
6) Trying to form an coalition against them the following set. (check)
7) Lie on the At that you didn't declare war the previous set. (check)
8) Keep poking the bear. (check)
9) Refuse pact offers. (check)
10) Continue to piss off the alliance you previously warred with and then when war happens cry that they're a bully. (check)
11) After you get your ass beat a second time make the same threat again. (check)

Do you think that attitude would have gotten you far 5 years ago? I know the last Alliance that used to act like that got FSed every set till they eventually left the game. For some reason now it is acceptable?

For some reason you guys seem to bypass the negotiation component, go straight to thinking you can act as you like and then point blame elsewhere when things do not work out how you wanted.

List of stupid things to do to an alliance you don't want to war with:

1) Defuse their missiles. (check) - Nope
2) FS them when you were told specifically by their president they would not attack you. (check) - You declared war on us first
3) Lie on the At that you didn't defuse the missiles. (check) - Nope =)
4) Insult the alliance slaughtering you, after you started the war. (check) - First part is true. SoF started this.
5) Telling them you're going to get them in future rounds (check) - Nope, that is just an inference. We didn't want to pact you and said you wouldn't be helpful to your allies. As noted, were your allies to need your help this round, you're tied up with us.
6) Trying to form an coalition against them the following set. (check) - Completely wrong... we aren't into that political bullfluff. This one is so incontrovertibly wrong there is no sliver of truth to it.
7) Lie on the At that you didn't declare war the previous set. (check) - I never said that. I said you declared war first - which is true. I am sorry that you dislike the timestamps.
8) Keep poking the bear. (check) - This is super vague, you mean that we don't just roll over and quietly accept your bullfluff?
9) Refuse pact offers. (check) - You guys never offered us a pact - we pre-declined.
10) Continue to piss off the alliance you previously warred with and then when war happens cry that they're a bully. (check) - This all started because you have been bullies for a long time and this is just a continuation of that behavior. I am sorry that Helmet has been removed from the game and then so aloof he has nfi what has been going on in SoF.
11) After you get your ass beat a second time make the same threat again. (check) - Is this the same as #8? Repeating points does not really make your list longer...

I think you guys need to chill out and start thinking things through better.

really? are you guys really having fun right now? is this the extent of your ambition, kicking PDM while they're down set after set because we wont let ivan write our retal policies and pacts for us?

I think you guys underestimate how willing we are to accept extinction in lieu of tyranny.

I am happy for it to continue if you so wish.

I foresee Pang @ SOL !

Do you think that attitude would have gotten you far 5 years ago? I know the last Alliance that used to act like that got FSed every set till they eventually left the game. For some reason now it is acceptable?

For some reason you guys seem to bypass the negotiation component, go straight to thinking you can act as you like and then point blame elsewhere when things do not work out how you wanted.



I think you guys need to chill out and start thinking things through better.

Rule the game? I am sorry to say for you locket, you were clueless 5 years ago and you are still clueless today.

Arrogantly stupid? Like the time you and your buddies in GoD FSed LAF and got your asses handed to you, then you were on a 1 man crusade against LAF for the following 4 years?

Or like in 2006 when your alliance Elysium decided to get together with allies and FS IX, only to have IX FS you the next set with you crying all over AT?

Yep, gotcha.