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posted by
Spear:
..I have to admit though, I wish I knew where this world you all describe was where throwing trillions of dollars at the government magically fixes everything and people are willing to share the fruits of their labor with those who haven't done as much (or any) work.
Sonuvafluff i am so sick of seeing this load of crap. The hardest working people i've met in my life are those that more often than not are among those paid the least. They sweat, they toil, their physical labor and work environ takes years off their lives and they have specific job knowledge that no suit with a degree can match.
And at the end of the day, when you subtract from their wages what they pay in taxes there's just not enough left to pay for food, shelter, healthcare, clothing etc let alone try to save for the future. Not many of their children will get that chance for a college education. So it's generational, and it's because of the greed and shortsightedness and apathy and personal comfort of voters like you that it will stay that way.
If you accept this is the way, and you have a small business, how the hell do you think the struggling middle class and the working poor are going to be able to buy one of your widgets? Hiring new workers is the LAST thing a business owner will do. Only when the demand for his product/service is so high that cutting every corner still won't meet the demand will the business owner hire more workers.
The wealthy are job creators? HA
The tens upon tens of millions at the bottom are the real job creators.
Spear, you say "Society is inherently unequal" and speak of a "misunderstanding of human nature" and "People are self-interested". You're right, but you seem to have no interest in changing it. I'm guessing you are white, male, and never had to worry how you are going to pay for your rent or your child's medical care.
And 'the way it is' is alright with you isn't it? You will "continue to live in the real world and take reality for what it is."
Because as you climb that "social ladder" you speak of you know that the system is gamed as zero sum and you'll not be caught on the lower rungs.
But many are. And not through any fault of their own.
They waited 30 years for the 'trickle down' theory of economics to finally work for them. They can read the charts, they see the statistics. They LIVE the statistics. They know now that trickle down was a scam, a pissONyou scam.
And they are the infrastructure of our civilization. They far outnumber you and your nearsighted armchair economists.
They watch the wealthy use their wealth to manipulate more wealth but only for themselves. They watch while the wealthy buy government favors and hold the carrot out on a stick for the middle class, turning them against the working poor while promising them 'a place in the good ol' boys club' someday.
Watch that damn video i posted upthread. Stop being a tool.