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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:45:35

36% of the top 100 is tagged LaF
41% of LaF is in the top 100

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:47:47

4% of the top 100 is tagged Rival
6% of Rival is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:49:55

20% of the top 100 is tagged MD
34% of MD is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:50:46

0% of the top 100 is tagged LCN
0% of LCN is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:51:25

0% of the top 100 is tagged Monsters
0% of Monsters is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:52:26

0% of the top 100 is tagged SofxWar
0% of SofxWar is in the top 100

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:54:57

0% of the top 100 is Vic
0% of Vic is in the top 100

:D

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:55:38

6% of the top 100 is tagged TIE
16% of TIE is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:56:22

keke save your non t20 in 2025 azz talk for after i'm done :p

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:57:02

SOL, fail.
SOL is ranked too high.

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:58:05

0% of the top 500 (HAHA!!!) is tagged SOL
0% of SOL is in the top 500 (HAHAHAHHAHA FAILURESSS!!!! OMG THAT SUCKS SO BADLY OMG OM GOM GOMG STOP PLAYING !!!! LMALMAOLAAOLOLLL KEKEKEK AHHAHAHA MISERABLE!!!)

sol is ranked too high

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Oct 2nd 2012, 17:58:38

these folks, are the numbers that count. this is the first annual Vic Rankings

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:00:26

1% of the top 100 is tagged Sof
3% of SoF is in the top 100 (3:1 ratio here, killer!!!)

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:01:01

0% of the top 100 is tagged PDM
0% of PDM is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:02:19

9% of the top 100 is tagged Omega
29% of Omega is in the top 100

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:04:06

4% of the top 100 is tagged RD
15% of RD is in the top 100

100% of the top 1 is tagged RD

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:05:26

14% of the top 100 is tagged EVO
59% of EVO is in the top 100 (nice job guys. i am critical of you, and still consider you EE n00btrash, but good job)

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:06:16

ICN on the double 0%

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:07:57

6% of the top 100 is tagged Sanct (was actually surprised to see any. nice job guys)
29% of Sanct is in the top 100 (nice nice guys, very nice)

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:08:21

imag on the double 0% for t500 ouch.

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:08:39

neowhat double 0%

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:08:56

hero double zeros

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:09:15

Also

50% of the top 10 is LaF
30% of the top 10 is MD
10% of the top 10 is Evo
10% of the top 10 is RD



...
60% of the top 5 is LaF
20% of the top 5 is MD
20% of the top 5 is RD

....

RD holds rank 1

Edited By: Vic on Oct 2nd 2012, 18:18:58
See Original Post

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:15:00

Vic's Netting Rankings #1:

1. LaF
2. MD (md beats evo here thanks to their 3 in the t10)
3. EVO
4. RD
5. Omega
6. Sanct
7. TIE

locket Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:18:22

No way Evo is number three dude. Even after losing some members they clearly are with Laf above everyone else as a whole.

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:19:32

numbers don't lie.

they have only 10 % of the top 10 and 0 % of the top 5.

md is on both of those lists. sorry, MD is above evo here.

Ikkaku Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:32:51

RD has one super country while the others are probably just puppets

EVO|Rasp

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Oct 2nd 2012, 18:54:13

Originally posted by Vic:
numbers don't lie.

they have only 10 % of the top 10 and 0 % of the top 5.

md is on both of those lists. sorry, MD is above evo here.


Lol set isn't over yet.

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:02:51

Rasp makes a valid point :p
Will be updated accordingly

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:08:50

gotta put Omega above RD considering Omega has a higher ANW. RD has one cheater and a bunch of average countries.
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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:13:19

while it is a close battle, i really can't justify putting omega over RD when RD is taking #1 so handedly.

RD has not cheated. what objectively do you propose they have done this set? aside from take care of most of the suiciders for the rest of us?


for now i'll adjust. currently a tie for 4th place between RD and Omega

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:13:36

We have only one cheater? Since when? Highrock is a noob. I assume you are still butt hurt from a few resets ago, I can understand that. I am still unsure of the reason why you went from Viola to highrock, but to each their own.
iScode> thats ok mrford i know when im not welcome!! :(
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anoniem Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:23:10

analogy from what i've read above:

if clan X have a country that has more kills than any single country from clan Y, then clan X will get ranked higher (despite losing the war), because of a single "achievement" from 1 member. as long as we are on the same page and we are following the line of the average member/alliance performance on a whole being irrelevant.

i like it. it would sure make winning a war easier.
re(ally)tired

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:23:40

Originally posted by MrTan1:
We have only one cheater? Since when? Highrock is a noob. I assume you are still butt hurt from a few resets ago, I can understand that. I am still unsure of the reason why you went from Viola to highrock, but to each their own.


What happened that would make me butthurt? I wasn't here when you guys hit us or what not.

Also, I've been playing this game long enough and well enough to know when a country is playing above the realm of possibility. Besides the free land that that country got from intra-clan farming, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been FAed a few. I'm good enough to know that 250M for a 50k farmer is a pretty big stretch.
formerly Viola MD

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:27:35

is there a like button for highrock's post ? ;)

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:33:14

not if you hit land early, have a g0dly stock, and play the market correctly.

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:39:21

Originally posted by Vic:
not if you hit land early, have a g0dly stock, and play the market correctly.


Maybe. But

1) How do you think he got that land?
2) He didn't get the land super duper early.
3) He didn't switch from Dict until 9/7. It safe to assume he probably had little to no stock at that point unless he was FA'ed consistently.
4. I buy the market part if he played it correctly since it was a pretty high bushel price set, but I'm not totally convinced he had enough stock to make up that huge difference.

In the end, I don't know if he got FAed. He definitely got free land, which is "cheating" in itself. I can buy that a very talented player playing the perfect set with the free land can hit 250M on 50k acres, but I don't know anybody in RD who is that good.
formerly Viola MD

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:48:03

lmao.

a lot of RD has had some super clean 1st place finishes with their outside identities.
so ya , you probably know plenty in RD 'that good'

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:53:38

Originally posted by Vic:
lmao.

a lot of RD has had some super clean 1st place finishes with their outside identities.
so ya , you probably know plenty in RD 'that good'


Have I missed something since I've been gone? Did RD go from being a real alliance to being a secret cult haven for famous players again?
formerly Viola MD

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 19:59:29

hrm.

pretty much the same group of colors since earth 2025.
many of whom have publicly acknowledged their past identities, all quite celebrated players. and all of whom now play solely for RD, as their given color. same skill they had before.

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:00:04

I don't consider any of RD's top finishers since EE started to be skilled netters, since they all benefitted from intra-farming and/or FA. So in that sense, nobody currently in RD is a top tier player. There are definitely some good ones, but none that can finish #1 without free land.

If you told me hanlong or gramberto were hiding out in RD again, then I would say they have good players.
formerly Viola MD

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:03:44

lol.
not going to indulge this.

...

piss off.

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:05:01

lol i'm only stating facts dude
formerly Viola MD

Vic Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:07:47

you have been fairly objective up until your last couple posts, my man.

point is. a lot of the original colors are still in rd. a lot of those original colors are people that you probably do indeed respect. not much more to say on the matter

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:08:20

in summary

Vic's Netting Rankings #1:

1. LaF
2. MD (md beats evo here thanks to their 3 in the t10)
3. EVO
4. RD
5. Omega
6. Sanct
7. TIE

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:11:21

Originally posted by Vic:
you have been fairly objective up until your last couple posts, my man.

point is. a lot of the original colors are still in rd. a lot of those original colors are people that you probably do indeed respect. not much more to say on the matter


well i don't know exactly who is there and what not, but the objective fact is that every single RD top finisher in EE has been given tons of free land via intra-clan farming. this can be checked pretty easily from eestats.

another fact is that no RD under the RD tag has finished at the top without the free land.

whether or not any of the actual current players have finished #1 without the help is something i do not know. i also do not know whether they are capable but just lazy, or completely incapable without help.

i only know the first three facts and from there i made my claims.
formerly Viola MD

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:24:52

basically highrock, what Vic is saying is that because at some point in time in the far past when these players were running bots and doing other stuff, they were also apparently running great clean countries.

of course the lack of a good (clean) RD finish in EE is just due to lack of effort. or something. and the mediocrity of their finishes on sets that they play clean is not relevant to this.
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Rockman Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:30:52

Originally posted by highrock:
He definitely got free land, which is "cheating" in itself.


So because its something you wouldn't do, its "cheating"?

I guess that means I'm gonna finish top 10 among "legit" countries this set, because I don't landgrab or landtrade, so all the countries above me that landgrabbed or landtraded are "cheaters".

highrock Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:47:30

Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by highrock:
He definitely got free land, which is "cheating" in itself.


So because its something you wouldn't do, its "cheating"?

I guess that means I'm gonna finish top 10 among "legit" countries this set, because I don't landgrab or landtrade, so all the countries above me that landgrabbed or landtraded are "cheaters".


I consider it "cheating" when country A helps country B at the cost of country A with no benefit to country A.

formerly Viola MD

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Oct 2nd 2012, 20:48:32

Originally posted by highrock:
Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by highrock:
He definitely got free land, which is "cheating" in itself.


So because its something you wouldn't do, its "cheating"?

I guess that means I'm gonna finish top 10 among "legit" countries this set, because I don't landgrab or landtrade, so all the countries above me that landgrabbed or landtraded are "cheaters".


I consider it "cheating" when country A helps country B at the cost of country A with no benefit to country A.



Is that "cheating" if it is done during war?