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Sof is constantly creating an atmosphere of fear around them. Is not the type of "fear for your life" fear, but people are scared and threaten to loose their "On-line comunities".
Worked out so far with a lot of weak ( leadership ) alliances.

Ingame examples:
we will make MD quit (#877)
MD youre dead set by set (#802)
we will make MD quit the game (#942)

Another example is AT & every-time a Sof head is opening his mouth.

INTIMIDATION AND THREATENING ( another example in this game is SAM DANGER | - * | ). The world DANGER is scaring me as much as Sof is !!!



Intimidation may be manifested in such manner as physical contacts, glowering countenance, emotional manipulation, verbal abuse, making someone feel lower than you, purposeful embarrassment and/or actual physical assault.

And example of a physical assault in EE would be iScode and a sheep. The other examples fits Sofs leader-board and the way they are playing politics.

It means the world to us.

MD thanks LCN.

.... but we LCN'ers don't appreciate being told what our foreign policy can or cannot be.

It's so fascinating to see how some people create fantasyworlds to fill in the unknowns in their heads.

As a small point of clarification out of a sea of misinformation... I was under the impression that SoF and LCN were on good terms. This set, when we tried to re-sign our FDP, SoF told us that they would not sign LCN unless we pacted RD and Rival.

I have no beef with RD or Rival, but we LCN'ers don't appreciate being told what our foreign policy can or cannot be. We'll stand by our friends, but we won't be treated like puppets. So we dropped our pursuit of a pact with SoF.

We didn't plan to war this set, but, like LaF, we honor our allies' requests to come to their aid, regardless of how overpowered or futile the fight.

Good luck to all involved, and see you on the battlefront.

It's so fascinating to see how some people create fantasyworlds to fill in the unknowns in their heads.

As a small point of clarification out of a sea of misinformation... I was under the impression that SoF and LCN were on good terms. This set, when we tried to re-sign our FDP, SoF told us that they would not sign LCN unless we pacted RD and Rival.

I have no beef with RD or Rival, but we LCN'ers don't appreciate being told what our foreign policy can or cannot be. We'll stand by our friends, but we won't be treated like puppets. So we dropped our pursuit of a pact with SoF.

We didn't plan to war this set, but, like LaF, we honor our allies' requests to come to their aid, regardless of how overpowered or futile the fight.

Good luck to all involved, and see you on the battlefront.

I'm curious to know when did MD ask for your help? I cannot believe that no one jumped in earlier to help MD. Either MD doesn't have many friends or they don't have many good friends.

A good ally will always have your back at a moments notice. And before you say "we cant hit allies" you shouldn't be FDPd to someone who's own relations cause conflict in a time of need for the FDP.

Like for instance in the past MD and PDM were inseparable. what one did the other followed. For years it was like that, and these days it couldn't be further from the truth.

In my estimation MD is isolated pretty well given the current state of the war.

From what I understand, MD was deciding *whether* to call in allies. There was some discussion back and forth of whether they wanted to call us in (My personal belief is they weren't going to call us in to a complete slaughter, but then given their performance over the first couple of days, they decided that they could still dole out some harm before the end), and over logistics and timing. Once that was decided, LCN saved turns, then hit.

You'll have to ask MD directly for their opinion, though.

who decided to use lcn on midbreakers instead of sof's breakers just out of curiosity, i mean i dont have a full view of the war, but that looked like a waste of good breaking power to me.

LCN is a very peculiar alliance...

After being beaten by SoL for a year, they come to an agreement with SoF, MD and LaF that we will all defend each other against an aggressive SoL. During the first two sets, LCN worked with SoF/LaF/MD in our wars with SoL/NA/RD. From them onwards LCN isolated themselves from the fighting and used the conflicts between the major powers to leverage themselves into a position where they could net. There were points where their entry into one of the sides could change the balance, but they used their position of power to secure their own self-interests, essentially betraying all of their FDPs on both sides of the conflict. They must have known their fence-sitting would cost them dearly eventually. Their decision to leak logs from the SoF/LaF/Rival/LCN/Omega chat to TIE, who then passed them onto Evo is a perfect example of this attitude.

However, you could argue that's fair enough, they just want to net... but this wasn't the case, LCN wanted to net most sets, fight wars of their choosing with no grudges afterwards and essentially do their own thing WHILE benefitting from the protection their FDPs gave them. An example of this was the set where SoL/MD/Evo secretly came together to plot LaF's doom. Instead of working with SoF/LaF, they decided to arrange a morale-boosting friendly with our biggest rivals SoL and signed a FDP with MD (who had prior dropped them). SoF had even offered to war with LCN against SoL that set, but we were ignored as we were by LCN for most of the last year.

Furthermore, LCN pulled off another bizarre more a few sets ago. They felt strong as a 50 member alliance and had certain members begging for war. As always, they refused to renew pacts until the start of the set... but this time they dropped certain alliances, clearly looking for a war. Some of these alliance had been long-term FDPs of LCN. It was clear that they wanted to war and had plans for a specific war... but that opportunity never came up. Worried about the political consequences of hitting the alliance they had intended to, LCN instead hit PDM and lost all moral credibility and in fact lost half of their membership. The set after they dropped even more long-term faithful allies and were hit by two of them in the same set.

At the beginning of this set, SoF had decided that we'd had enough of being FDPed to this alliance who has helped us a total number of 0 times in the last year and a half. An alliance that never bothered talking to us for the last year and leaked our last major conversation to our enemies. We never had any plans to hit them, but instead they enter against us in defence of an alliance who has dropped them twice in the last year and a half. Who on earth dictates your foreign policy? You flip-flop more than a sunny day on the beach and decide upon the worst course of action.

Enjoy being our farmland.

GUYS LETS LOOK AT THE POSITIVITY IN THIS. LCN, I COMMEND YOU FOR WALKING INTO CERTAIN DEATH. WHAT IS THE SAYING, NO GUTS NO GLORY? LET IT BE KNOWN THAT AT THIS MOMENT LCN HAD THE GUTS. ONLY HISTORY WILL TELL IF THEY HAD THE GLORY. ALSO, I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN A FIGHT AGAINST SOF.


ALSO, LCN, YOUR SHIRT IS MIGHTY FIERCE.

I'm interested to hear more about this, because I certainly haven't been party to this.

Seconded.

I do not begrudge LCN entering. For their own sake it would have been better for them if they didn't enter but it is what it is.

A FDP between LCN and SoF was never on the table this set for us due to the lack of communication between our Alliances. We did however leave the door open for a FDP next set and a NAP for this one if LCN was prepared to work with us, including pacting our allies which we know LCN had participated in planning against.

No they did not.

Didn't MD pact SoF's allies? (a serious question). If so then it clearly turned out well for them in terms of getting a pact from SoF...