Dec 19th 2013, 15:49:27
if you guys want to discuss RD on express forum, you can do so here. leave the game changes threads to game change discussion.
my interjection on it all -
How did Copper get his color?
That is honestly a really good question. When RD first came 'back' under Silver's direction, most true older pre 2004 colors had not returned.
Some people, whose names I will not mention - began to backdate themselves. Some were old RDjrs who never made color and Silver believed them when they told him they had been given a color back in the day. Some were flat out n00bs who weren't even RDjrs and others were quasi colors made in 2005,2006 and 2007 without the authority of many key colors.
Copper came to RD along with a few PDM n00b types sometime in the 2009/2010 period and he was certainly a n00b but I believe he had decent political pull in PDM at the time and that was something Silver saw as a benefit to RD.
RD colors are guilty for not outing Silver and Copper -
Um what? I'm not sure what you guys don't understand but Silver was a very very power hungry guy and he was VERY manipulative. He did not share any info with anyone. There has been continued mention of attack times and FS times being posted - but that simply isn't true. My country died in that war, as did many others! And we had no idea when the attacks were coming.
If Silver knew this info he kept it entirely to himself, in true power hungry fashion.
We were all simply shocked at the thought of someone, RD or not, logging into other people's accounts.
Frankly it is deeply offensive to suggest that the other colors knew about such activity and let it go along. I wouldn't have let it happen. Braden wouldn't have let it happen. And many others who are respectable clean players simply would NOT have been ok being part of such activity.
The thing that is most troubling about Silver's play is that RD had Colors in a lot of the alliances he was apparently trying to infiltrate. Maybe he didn't trust their information? But for whatever reason Silver and Copper tried to hack and find information that we had already been in a position to obtain legally, without multiple countries and without stealing anyone's info or logging into anyone's account. For this reason alone it was especially shocking to see that they had hacked accounts for more info!
Finally - to those in RD who are still whining and crying about it, personally I'm glad that place is donezo. Myself, a true color, knew first hand that 'leadership' over there in EE was not anything real RD but rather a bunch of wannabes that watched us in e2025, didn't understand the true principles of RD, and began to do things their way. RD died in 2004 and it never came back to EE. Anyone that thinks this impostor alliance was RD is wrong. I figured that out a set too late but again, I'm glad it's finito. It was a joke.
Mehul was one of RDs first colors. He thought the alliance was very fundamental to the drama, excitement, and politics of the 1a server and he was right imo. He was also the owner and developer and it's just funny that so many people don't realize that RD was ultimately HIS creation. He would have been disgusted by the actions of Silver and Copper just like myself and Braden are.
my interjection on it all -
How did Copper get his color?
That is honestly a really good question. When RD first came 'back' under Silver's direction, most true older pre 2004 colors had not returned.
Some people, whose names I will not mention - began to backdate themselves. Some were old RDjrs who never made color and Silver believed them when they told him they had been given a color back in the day. Some were flat out n00bs who weren't even RDjrs and others were quasi colors made in 2005,2006 and 2007 without the authority of many key colors.
Copper came to RD along with a few PDM n00b types sometime in the 2009/2010 period and he was certainly a n00b but I believe he had decent political pull in PDM at the time and that was something Silver saw as a benefit to RD.
RD colors are guilty for not outing Silver and Copper -
Um what? I'm not sure what you guys don't understand but Silver was a very very power hungry guy and he was VERY manipulative. He did not share any info with anyone. There has been continued mention of attack times and FS times being posted - but that simply isn't true. My country died in that war, as did many others! And we had no idea when the attacks were coming.
If Silver knew this info he kept it entirely to himself, in true power hungry fashion.
We were all simply shocked at the thought of someone, RD or not, logging into other people's accounts.
Frankly it is deeply offensive to suggest that the other colors knew about such activity and let it go along. I wouldn't have let it happen. Braden wouldn't have let it happen. And many others who are respectable clean players simply would NOT have been ok being part of such activity.
The thing that is most troubling about Silver's play is that RD had Colors in a lot of the alliances he was apparently trying to infiltrate. Maybe he didn't trust their information? But for whatever reason Silver and Copper tried to hack and find information that we had already been in a position to obtain legally, without multiple countries and without stealing anyone's info or logging into anyone's account. For this reason alone it was especially shocking to see that they had hacked accounts for more info!
Finally - to those in RD who are still whining and crying about it, personally I'm glad that place is donezo. Myself, a true color, knew first hand that 'leadership' over there in EE was not anything real RD but rather a bunch of wannabes that watched us in e2025, didn't understand the true principles of RD, and began to do things their way. RD died in 2004 and it never came back to EE. Anyone that thinks this impostor alliance was RD is wrong. I figured that out a set too late but again, I'm glad it's finito. It was a joke.
Mehul was one of RDs first colors. He thought the alliance was very fundamental to the drama, excitement, and politics of the 1a server and he was right imo. He was also the owner and developer and it's just funny that so many people don't realize that RD was ultimately HIS creation. He would have been disgusted by the actions of Silver and Copper just like myself and Braden are.