Can you please stop posting stupid ideas regarding reset lenght and maximum countries and actually try to do something creative 90 days set or 32 countries would only make this server less attractive to play on for the general population and it already is very unattractive to play on for most of earths active players
if anything they should go the other way around and limit the countries to 8 and make the sets shorter, then we might actually get more players to play FFA
so? i dont see why it shouldnt be that way in pretty much all games those who put more time into it are better players and thus get an advantage to those who isnt
If there were 35,000 countries on the server like in the old days, I would agree about self-farming but the reality is that there's not even 1/10th of that number.
well if it was changed just so you couldnt grab countries on the same account then the best way to win would be:
1) run 2 accounts, perhaps with 8 countries each
2) team up with another player and run farms for eachother
its not so much more time or effort, except when it comes to coordinating schedules if your trying to do landtrading/ghostacre creation but even just allx farms is still more efficient and would mean people who didnt bother to do it couldnt compete
20000 were run by bots, others ran 200-300....you still can't compare.
16 countries = plenty, but will never be enough for die hard FFA'ers. Increase it however, and most people will leave this server. It doesn't take hours though to run 100 countries. With good strats, you can get 'decent' countries that can be used to put out hits. In my top days I could run my countries after 150 turns in less then 10 seconds. Running 15 countries would take me no more then 2-3 minutes back then. If you want quality, stick to 16. Mayham, increase it.
Making it to where you couldn't hit your own tag would be disasterous IMO. Unless you had an insanely active team of ppl with the admin pass it would bake the server a haven for suiciders and kill the game rather quickly
come on Ivan, you are smarter than that
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Oh im sure its a great server for the 12 people that plays on it but for the majority of earthers they wouldnt even consider playing 16 countries
as for me being a noob iceman, traditionally this server didnt have 30 mins per turn for most of earths time it had 40 mins per turn and I think FFA was closed down just after mehul started to shorten the times between turns and the reason that most people created bots was because they were too lazy to run 15 countries
As for running yer own landfarms, it doesnt really do anything it doesnt show what skills you have in the game it doesnt add anything to the game it simply allows you to run "multies" for your own use and yes id call them multies and the only difference between this server and the other is that your allowed to do it here.
As for 3 month sets, maybe FFA changed later then alliance did im not really sure on it but alliance changed to 2 months sets in 01 or 02 and i cant remember FFA being longer then alliance
Maybe I'm wrong here, but isn't the whole purpose of the FFA server to open up the possibilities that come with being able to run lots of countries on your own? And wouldn't limiting that number to even less countries remove a lot of those possibilities?
Land trading/self farming are going to happen even if you allow people TWO countries....how are you guys not figuring this out? It has NOTHING to do with the actual # of countries they can run, and everything to do with the fact that they can do it legally with no mechanisms in place to stop them or remove the incentive from it.
If you're really petty enough to want to see self-farming completely disappear, petition the mods to disallow hitting within your own string. If it's popular opinion within the community, they have the means to put an end to it if they want to. Griping about the # of countries people can play isn't going to solve anything, as it's not at the root of the problem.
If you're not motivated enough to play the max # of countries allowed, and are complaining about people being able to beat up on you who are that motivated....I suggest playing in one of the less time consuming servers, and leaving FFA to us bored nerds.
if you fix networth land trading, then your back to building land trading, which is still better than grabbing, if you fix that your back to exploring in one country and grabbing it with the other
grabbing can easily be better than that
but if retalling is too easy then it wont be
i dont want self trading banned within the same account/tag i want it reduced in effectiveness combined with other things being increased in effectiveness
number of countries is merely one factor and im happy for it to stay about the same as it is now basing countries more around killing efficiency than retalling or netgaining
well, nobody said you HAVE (edit) play all 32 countries. Back when FFA was unlimited I never played more than 45, hell more often than not I played under 15. Now, if the admins do raise it to 32 countries, I think it might be a good idea to being the turns back to 72/50, and maybe even back to 60 minutes a turn. If we're gonna bring the server as close to the pre-bot days, might as well do it turnwise too.
I wouldn't mind a 3 month reset, contrary to what people may think, a 90 set can give people plenty of time to war, and still net effectively and would probably make the llaar's of the server bored with self farming all reset.
As for the ideas being silly, what would you know anyways ivan? you're a 1aer.
I'm no mathematician but someone said the other day that when the reset was dropped from 3 to 2 months but the turns started to pop in every 20 minutes, the total number of turns for 2 vs 3 mos, was not very different at all.
Ivan: The reason people made bots is because they were too lazy to play the 300+ illegal countries they had, not because they were too lazy to play their 15.
Mehul did a lousy job of enforcing the rules, generally doing about one sweep a reset. If you survived the one sweep, you were probably good to cheat as much as you wanted the rest of the time.
'would only make this server less attractive to play on for the general population and it already is very unattractive to play on for most of earths active players'
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You are talking from a position of tainted bias..
Instead of what *people that have no clue.. The 2 servers are so different, and I can tell where you came from just by what you say.. You can't honestly say what a inexperienced nOOb might or might not think of the differences, because like me, you have at least been influenced , possibly even dictated a little policy in 1a... (Me, prolly on FFA)
In fact, it took me a long time to get arounfd the idea of having/playing only one country,. I think it was due to the whole premise, of each style. Both have their good points.... But are about as similar as a baseball and a football.. (American)
*An FFAer might say, damn, to play just 1 country? BORING!!
While the 1aer might say, damn, that sure is a waste of time playing ALL those..
So.... Sauron, I don't think he was dropped on his head or anything..! It may be due only to an ignorance and attempts at ending enlightened, has so far, ended in failure.
To open the mind.... Get around that, eh?
*(unexposed to either Alliance or FFA)
Didn't proof read so make sure you read between the lines...
I hate to say it, but I think you're wrong QM. Although those biases definitely exist, what makes a game fun is in most cases generally universal - rule sets are only technicalities that change HOW the game is play, not what makes playing it fun in the first place.
Twister is fun whether you play it naked or as a drinking game, for example (I prefer a hybrid of the two, of course). Some may prefer one or another for personal reasons, but the game itself is fun regardless of what rule set you use.
I hate to say it, but I think you're wrong QM. Although those biases definitely exist, what makes a game fun is in most cases generally universal - rule sets are only technicalities that change HOW the game is play, not what makes playing it fun in the first place.
Twister is fun whether you play it naked or as a drinking game, for example (I prefer a hybrid of the two, of course). Some may prefer one or another for personal reasons, but the game itself is fun regardless of what rule set you use.
To be fair, everything's fun when you're drunk and naked.
I hate to say it, but I think you're wrong QM. Although those biases definitely exist, what makes a game fun is in most cases generally universal
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Well, I didn't know you cared that I made sense at all in some of my musings, now3p.... Gotcha a big ole 'atta boy', in my book..
But.... You say I may be wrong, yet you verify the existence of biased influences.
I agree, it's whatever floats your boat, fun wise...
One of the toughest guys I ever worked for, used to say, I may not be right, but I'm NEVER wrong!. (If in public, or in ear catch of the crew, someone dares to say 'it' was on him, didn't matter at all, what is was, either.. His own marraige failed.. Played no favorites.
So, his philosophy, was not unlike a new race of people, you will be inherently fluffed, until someone is accepted, by something other than nepotism.
But to just learn to get along, and speak the language would never be enough for the casualties of capitalism and free enterprise, he was using, mainly, for traction! His own, of course...!
"So.. it's you! Who is wrong, Was wrong, Will be wrong and always.... will..... be wrong!
"Do you understand?" What I've just enlightened you of.... Sometimes he'd ask, "how long have you been with my outfit?"
Ice man, I don't like Ivan's ideas about changing the country numbers or the reset length as much as I don't like your ideas about it. All the servers were three months at one point in time. Try not to come off like a dumbass. A 3 month reset would fluff up the game.
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