SoF+RAGE+LaF vs MD+SoL (full stats):
http://earthgraphs.com/...69b51ba0d5ca3144695f64ddc

SoF+RAGE vs MD+SoL (from RAGE wardec):
http://earthgraphs.com/...286316f5e2838096b0e069620

SoF+RAGE+LaF vs MD+SoL (from RAGE wardec):
http://earthgraphs.com/...8fdaf654fe3a1cb8bb6677a48

SoF vs MD+SoL (all reset):
http://earthgraphs.com/...faefce0890d7549410bf61fb0

LaF vs SoL (all reset):
http://earthgraphs.com/...b0cc7a5588068af3a0e67704e

RAGE vs LCN:
http://earthgraphs.com/...cc1c6d81db7e9c6f3502a27cd

DK,ImagNum vs xVx:
http://earthgraphs.com/...c6736b91c6ce31eca52f1c29c

Reset is from Jun 8 to Aug 6

Not Jun 14 to Aug 14

joke repeated twice is twice as funny?

no

unless trife posts it.

Then its hilarious.

fyi i didnt even need spell check for hilarious, thats a massive improvement for me!!!

good job scode. those hooked on phonics books are paying off

so proud!

LAF vs SOL

http://earthgraphs.com/...b0cc7a5588068af3a0e67704e

SoF vs MD + SOL
http://earthgraphs.com/...mpssol&warreport=Show

What I cannot figure out is why LaF is still killing SOL countries when SOL isn't hitting back... You'd think they would just be farming.

Obviously to help SoF.

SOF

What exactly should we do? We already devoted to war and started killing the enemy, we certainly aren't going to just let SOL have their way or do what they want to do. If they would have given us a fight maybe we would have been satisfied.

Why would LaF need to help SoF there? SoF was the aggressor this set by FS'ing MD.

LaF FS'd SOL before SOL ever hit SoF so it isn't like SoF called LaF in.

Ofc, 97 MD+SoL countries vs 55 SoF and SoF FS on MD is fair and challenging war:) And poor LaF is making this war alot less interesting:)
You asked why LaF still hitting, not why LaF FSed SoL. I have no idea why LaF FSed SoL, ask LaF directly. But i also can assume to keep SoL out of SoF vs MD fight.

As i remember, SoL FSed SoF 2 resets ago 60 vs 54 and you wasnt asking such things.

Asking what such things? I asked why LaF wanted to keep killing instead of grabbing land when the enemy wasn't a threat to them. What does that have to do with an FS 2 sets ago?

and I answered you.

SOL belongs to us, we will do what we please to them. If they want to turn their back to us and bend over, what did they expect?

10-4 Symac, I was talking to Duna. ;)

Asking:


You wasnt asking why SoF need help 2 resets ago. And if you rly dont understand my idea, im saying that you playing dumb with such questions, when war is 97 vs 55. 2 sets ago SoL FSed with bigger advantage than SoF had against MD this reset. So, its kinda obvious, that SoF needed help 2 sets ago. And you not asked why SoF need help 2 resets ago. Why you asking why SoF need help? What do you not understand?

Duna take your head out of your ass.
2 Sets ago Sol fsed a war-prepared and saving turns Sof.
This set Sof fsed a block-batch explore MD.
Sure, the fault here is not Sofs, but MDs leadership that didn't saw this coming - but facts are facts.

97 ws 55 you say ? So Laf, an alliance that has almost as much NW as Sof+Md+Sol and hits Sol only with BRs and farm ( because they can) is not part of your equation?
Please remove head out of ass ...

Why i so love SoL? Because you always play dumb and i never know, are you just playing or really so dumb. And ofc i love how SoL guys (proSoL) always trying to make personal insults:)

Anyways, as i explain it to you once more, even if i talk with Atryn and not you. How SoF was prepared 2 sets ago and MD preparations this reset has no relations with Atryn questions. Someone, who playing Earth for long time, should not ask such questions. For experienced players its kinda obvious when someone need help and when someone dont need help.

Now about second part. Try to read again. Atryn asking why LaF need to help SoF? And im telling him, that without LaF its 97 vs 55. Kinda simple? No? Ok, i can repeat. SoF need LaF help with killing SoL countries because its kinda impossible to win war with 55 countries against 97 even if you FSed 53 of them and someone killed 10-15 of other 44.

http://earthgraphs.com/...Nostra&warreport=Show

Actually, we're talking about the same subject from different sides. I wasn't asking why SoF needed LaF's help. I asked first why LaF would kill vs. farm when SOL isn't threatening them. Someone said to help SoF, so I asked why they would want to help SoF?

That isn't "why SoF needs help", it is "why is LaF doing it"?

LaF didn't hit SOL in response to SOL hitting SoF because LaF FS'd SOL before they ever hit SoF. So LaF isn't doing this out of obligation to SoF. I was just asking why they want to kill vs. LG.

If the answer is "because we love SoF" or "because we love these constant block wars" or "because we don't like the new ghost acre formula and are protesting LGs in general"... That is just for LaF to answer. ;)

I think you can plainly see that most are into farm mode now?
Some of us like killing though. Some of us rely on these wars to handle the gruelingly boring netting sets. Some of us thought SOL was a guaranteed good war.

Tag over to MD! We have a guaranteed good long war going. Well, "good" is a matter of perspective. And watch out for those TIE guys, they are fast.

Sry, im not so good at english. For me "Why would LaF need to help SoF there?" sounds like "Why SoF need help?" and not like "why is LaF doing it?". The answer on your question is still same - because with farming they cannot drop SoL countries low enough to help SoF. Why LaF would want to help SoF? Probably because they are more or less friends and LaF dont want SoF to lose.



Even if LaF didn`t hit SoL in response and dont have any obligation to SoF, its obviously known tactic of "preemptive CS", so SoL cannot hit SoF is full power.

Actually a Laffer try to join MD, but they refused him!

Why would laf want to help sof? They don't. Laf helping sof is laf helping laf with an access to all sol free land. Given sol focus is on sof.. Its 50ish countries of free land.

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If that was an attempt to sell me something it utterly FAILed... I'm not even sure where to click.

Update to LaF + SoF + RAGE vs. MD + SOL.

RAGE is just late to the party apparently and enjoyed jumping in on the beating LaF and SoF were giving our side.

You can spin LaF in the middle all you want, but doesn't make it true. We wanted a nice solo war and planned on it, but you guys just couldn't help but continue coalition wars.
It was a disappointing war, SoL fell well short of what we expected but with their walling and our inactivity could have been decent.

Updated with few links. I hope everyone will find interesting stats for himself. (bonus turns comes here:))

Duna: Given Symac's statement above, this might be better...

You already have LaF vs. SOL
You already have MD + SOL vs. SoF
You need SoF + RAGE vs. MD

RAGE isn't hitting SOL, only MD. (http://earthgraphs.com/...psSoL&warreport=Show)

I assume since LaF is still hitting SOL, they see no need to go after SOL. Or maybe Sov just didn't give them that order.

Well, RAGE wardec says they declare on SoL, so i think its logical to have their warstats against SoL. If they at this point hit only MD, it not means they wont hit SoL later.

why is laf still hitting and killing sol? Because its there,sol was hit by laf before it did single hit on sof, One would think
"Oh fluff" hit by laf! Kill them! But no, they when after sof an ignored(spell)laf, blame leadership of sol!

LOL Nekked.... symac answered that question 2 weeks ago.

i'm slow

Hate when you guys can't just spit out the truth.

It`s clear Laf/Sof would have won the combined war ws MD SOL. It is clear that this was the plan from the start, Laf to FS Sol and Sof to go after MD. It is clear 110 countries will beat up 95, when the 110 gets the FS and the 95 plan for latter friendly war.

It is clear Sof was not satisfied with both MD and SOL aiming for them and totally ignore Laf, thus they needed 150(out of which 40 are/were mass FAing them) ws 95,to avoid being MD`s farmland. However they still got tag-killed.

Symac is doing his usual "BJ Sof" thing when saying they wanted a balanced war with Sol. Sol does not stand a chance agains Laf if Laf FSes. Sol might stand a chance against Laf if the war is prearranged. Few ( close to none) in this game have a chance against Laf FS + latter growing strategy. Especially when they fs you with your pants down ...
Laf wanted Sol out for Sof purposes and not the fluff Symac is feeding. Otherwise they would have cease-fired a long time ago.

Overall - after 1 year of being beaten down, both in even wars (Sol WS Sof) or coalition wars, Sof could not afford to get farmed, after they planed and plot for this. Thus they needed 150 countries, FA and 3 FSes for that.

Just to be sure, are you calling 2 resets ago 60 vs 54 with FS SoLvsSoF war "even"? Or something other?

lol even....why did MD even call SoL in to FS SoF this reset. SoF FS MD in a war which was almost deadon even in members/nw war at the start..SoF wasn't attacking SoL, only MD. LaF FS SoL in a seperate affair. MD calls SoL into fight its even numbers war against SoF. SoF returns the favor to even the member numbers in its war vs MD/SoL by calling in Rage.

so...
SoL lost massively to LaF in 1v1...LaF tagged killed SoL
MD losing badly to SoF in 1v1
SoF starting to lose against MD/SoL 1v2
MD/SoL decimated by Rage/SoF 2v2...MD tagged killed, SoF couple days later tagged killed


Serious question...did qz put farmland bots in alliance early and just tag them Vampssol???

Gongshow - SoF's FS on MD was not an even war by any stretch of the imagination if you know how to play this game.

MD was prepping for a week 6 war, had no turns saved, no stock, etc.

And MD didn't have to call in SOL, they volunteered. We had stated clearly before this all started that if someone messed with our planned friendly we would team up on them.

SoF/MD was a even war at the start---- SoF/MD total members/TNW close to the same at the start---thats a even fluffing war.....
...your leaders decided on the wrong build strat and SoF caught you @ a perfect time

ohhh SoL volunteered lol, MD always could of said no....

Not sure what you are saying there Gongshow.

Any war where the outcome is a forgone conclusion as soon as the FS starts is not an "even war".

And pretty much every alliance I know would welcome help under those circumstances - especially when faced with the prospect of a 7-week losing war. Although self-deletion was considered as an option and a few other alliances have taken that route in the past.

Even wars are not wars. Pre-planning a war is not war. Waiting for the opposing enemy to get ready is not war. This game started off with each country building in preparation for self survival. Alliances were formed to cover each other's butts. Leaders of the alliances formed somewhat of a "united nations" type structure.

Then it all started going to fluff. Land trading took the purity and skill from the game. Pre-planned, friendly wars were set up. Go back to the roots of the game. Be prepared for anything, as an individual country, and as an alliance, and there would be less crybaby bullfluff. Sure, he NW numbers would be lower at the end of the set. Who cares if you have such a high NW when it was gained through land trading. There is no skill in that.

oh, and the only reason I posted this was to get my bonus turns :P

play primary...

Not sure if you were talking to me Suicidal. I have never landtraded, never plan to.

So far i see sof&rage not hitting md&sol anymore, but sol attacking LaF. Did i missed some announcments?

SoF/Rage CF with MD/SoL on the 19th @ 0400 GT

Gongshow got it.

The SOL/LaF war is a separate war and I'm sure they will CF if/when ready.