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Aug 17th 2015, 0:21:43

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 PowerThroughIt (#7) Game profile 32,090 $37,517,706 CG
2 Arizona Cardinals (#29) 12,544 $29,255,588 DG
3 Demo Casher (#25) 19,842 $27,525,778 RG
4 X (#66) 22,944 $26,908,664 CG
5 MakeMyDay (#79) 14,862 $21,000,439 RG
6 Ti annichilisco strikes back (#90) 21,473 $18,909,850 CG
7 Zorp (#4) 12,700 $16,400,000 DG
8 Repeat Offender (#33) Game profile 10,581 $16,168,518 DG
9 mFrost (#58) Game profile 14,326 $15,345,564 DG
10 LRt (#18) 14,645 $14,901,200 R

11 Enterprise NX01 (#83) Game profile 13,064 $14,490,650 RG
12 asheland (#9) Game profile 16,815 $13,917,562 DG
13 Im all about that Action (#34) 10,353 $13,096,347 R
14 struggle (#73) 15,021 $12,362,093 HG
15 Mr Lucky (#27) 12,201 $12,354,136 HG
16 STiCKS aND SToNeS (#89) 14,721 $11,997,221 DG
17 Westeros (#39) 15,924 $11,581,595 R
18 BeE Po bEe po BEe pO (#41) Game profile 15,861 $11,493,983 DG
19 doomsville (#53) 19,698 $11,277,647 C
20 General Admission (#77) 13,973 $10,871,055 RG

21 BaDonkaDonks (#15) 10,403 $10,827,550 DG
22 Bandar Tun Razak (#21) Game profile 7610 $9,933,636 DG
23 PIP (#101) Game profile 7634 $9,562,297 I
24 big mountain fudgecake (#30) 13,335 $9,458,402 F
25 landfarm (#12) 10,493 $9,366,193 MG
26 I R WoG SuperFly (#32) 10,074 $8,298,513 CG
27 STARBREAKER (#68) 15,304 $8,255,057 DG
28 Scarlet (#86) 11,110 $7,556,355 R
29 the Temple (#40) Game profile 9440 $7,039,127 RG
30 Sparta (#47) 7612 $7,036,434 CG

congrats all !!

got sidetracked... sorry for the lateness

drkprinc Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:25:24

not accepted! you did this last set too punishment will come in form of ingame naggin! >.>
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Aug 17th 2015, 0:27:19

I guess I fell short of #1 spot. *shakes fist at ebert!*

Anyhow, good luck to everyone on EXPRESS. --until they fix the oil issue on PM I will not be playing on EXPRESS.

Go Arizona Cardinals 2015!
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Aug 17th 2015, 0:28:53

oh well will shoot the fluff with you on 1A, and seeing as how you have some more free time why not start up in FFA?
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silentwolf Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:32:15

should have just edged in top10 to rub it into mr rainbow "drkpric"

but hey.. sleep was more important..

next time

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:34:27

lol silent wouldn't effected me you were just a side distraction I stopped an all jet suicider from even clearing top 50 with his 20k acres of land
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Aug 17th 2015, 0:39:38

Nice job ebert, celphi and all in top ten. Congrats to all in top 25.

Hate to see you leave celphi, maybe you'll change your mind by Tuesday.

I almost made it back to top ten. Next set hopefully.
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silentwolf Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:40:22

Originally posted by drkprinc:
lol silent wouldn't effected me you were just a side distraction I stopped an all jet suicider from even clearing top 50 with his 20k acres of land


probably he got bored.

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:44:15

nope he tried to very end of set to get ahead on the land he lost to me in end I cost him 3k acres plus 10k of unbuilt land he jumped from 3m nw to 4m nw at end and was proud of that lol
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ebert00 Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:48:51

Shout out to h20 for helping me this round knowledge wise...not his vicious top feed lol. Gained me about a million or more nw.

mFrost Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:50:36

Will definitely miss you in express Celphi, hope you do change your mind. I do agree with the basics of what you are saying. Players should not be allowed to sell below their personal PM price.

Sort of make it like the flag that auto buys from the PM when public prices exceed the PM prices.

Oil for the most part would not sell below 60, although a theo could still drive public prices down some.

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drkprinc Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 0:52:21

h2o is usually easy to spot out I knew he was oxycotin before set even started. took me until day2 to figure out who was celphi he really hid good this set. Took me until a series of RoR to RoR with hammer to figure him out (actually forgot) that he used that name every set pretty much thought was someone else for some reason Drunck eluded me until end set scores and even dcorn24 shocked me with his low finish.
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h2orich Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 2:27:44

Congrats ebert.
I had plenty of fun with #38,#13,#26 last set.

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If I played till the end I might get 3rd or 4th.

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Aug 17th 2015, 2:28:07

if i finished i would have been 2nd but i couldnt be bothered.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Ti annichilisco Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 2:57:28

If anybody knows who was X (#66), let me know

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Aug 17th 2015, 2:59:04

Originally posted by Ti annichilisco:
If anybody knows who was X (#66), let me know


was that not your multi? just saying you are shady enough for it ;)
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Ti annichilisco Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 3:33:45

Originally posted by drkprinc:
Originally posted by Ti annichilisco:
If anybody knows who was X (#66), let me know


was that not your multi? just saying you are shady enough for it ;)


No, he tapped me in the last 4 minutes of the set. BTW, something strange, I couldn't hit him back as kept on getting a message "the country [you're trying to spy on and then attack] is too large", despite us being almost the same NW.

What do you mean I'm shady enough ? Don't like your words, and tell what have I have ever done less than correct

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 3:37:52

You have to be very near his networth to be able to hit him during the last few 2 hours of the set.

8) Humantarians at end of Reset
During the last 30 turns of a reset, the humanitarians range will tighten with ((turnsleft/31.7)^2+1.05) with a minimum of the range; (ie GDI, team)

drkprinc Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 3:46:25

[quote poster=Ti annichilisco; 37226; 675899]
Originally posted by drkprinc:
Originally posted by Ti annichilisco:
If anybody knows who was X (#66), let me know


was that not your multi? just saying you are shady enough for it ;)


No, he tapped me in the last 4 minutes of the set. BTW, something strange, I couldn't hit him back as kept on getting a message "the country [you're trying to spy on and then attack] is too large", despite us being almost the same NW.

What do you mean I'm shady enough ? Don't like your words, and tell what have I have ever done less than correct [/quote]

Couple tournament sets I hit you, you didn't have power to retal you pull out missiles that's shady enough for me to put you on a shady list ;)
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Ti annichilisco Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 4:01:24

Originally posted by h2orich:
You have to be very near his networth to be able to hit him during the last few 2 hours of the set.

8) Humantarians at end of Reset
During the last 30 turns of a reset, the humanitarians range will tighten with ((turnsleft/31.7)^2+1.05) with a minimum of the range; (ie GDI, team)
Originally posted by h2orich:
You have to be very near his networth to be able to hit him during the last few 2 hours of the set.

8) Humantarians at end of Reset
During the last 30 turns of a reset, the humanitarians range will tighten with ((turnsleft/31.7)^2+1.05) with a minimum of the range; (ie GDI, team)


Shukt, so if I read you formula correct, as I had ~30 turns left (is it the set turns or my personal turns ?) its ~1 +1.05. Is that 5% ? If yes, I don't think it's an addition otherwise you can be double or half the size and still hit. Then, I see that if you have only 5 turns left the range narrows tremendously, to 1.37 (I assume %). Still, we were maybe 10% NW apart. Let me understand your formula better :-)

Ti annichilisco Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 4:04:59

[quote poster=drkprinc; 37226; 675904][quote poster=Ti annichilisco; 37226; 675899]
Originally posted by drkprinc:
Originally posted by Ti annichilisco:
If anybody knows who was X (#66), let me know


was that not your multi? just saying you are shady enough for it ;)


No, he tapped me in the last 4 minutes of the set. BTW, something strange, I couldn't hit him back as kept on getting a message "the country [you're trying to spy on and then attack] is too large", despite us being almost the same NW.

What do you mean I'm shady enough ? Don't like your words, and tell what have I have ever done less than correct [/quote]

Couple tournament sets I hit you, you didn't have power to retal you pull out missiles that's shady enough for me to put you on a shady list ;) [/quote]

Ah, ok. I take that "shady" without problems. If you hit me, I'll do all I can to retaliate.
If what you define "shady" has such a standard, I think 90% of the players around you are shady.
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Aug 17th 2015, 4:15:16

My room is toooooo small for all them to be around me >.>
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h2orich Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 4:33:14

Originally posted by Ti annichilisco:

Shukt, so if I read you formula correct, as I had ~30 turns left (is it the set turns or my personal turns ?) its ~1 +1.05. Is that 5% ? If yes, I don't think it's an addition otherwise you can be double or half the size and still hit. Then, I see that if you have only 5 turns left the range narrows tremendously, to 1.37 (I assume %). Still, we were maybe 10% NW apart. Let me understand your formula better :-)


If you had 30 turns left, it would be (30/31.7)^2+1.05 = 1.9455.
This means that your target can only be 1.94x larger than you or 1.94x smaller than you in terms of networth.

If you had 10 turns left, it would be (10/31.7)^2+1.05 = 1.15
This means that your target can only be 1.15x larger than you or 1.15x smaller than you in terms of networth.

Note that this changes very fast because in express each turn is only 4 mins long, wherelse in servers like Primary, 30 turns is actually 15 hours.

SuperFly Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 4:49:41

who ever played the Temple (#40) you can kiss my ass fluff as I finished $1.2mill NW higher than you and like I said your fluff ass couldnt play a single turn after I took you down to 9k pop which is why you left 150 turns on hand so blow me :)

starbreaker Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 7:13:40

what a waste 300 I di d not play

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Aug 17th 2015, 7:14:31

11 13 3

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 7:22:55

SuperFly, I dont think his intention was to out net you.

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Aug 17th 2015, 8:48:41

Originally posted by SuperFly:
who ever played the Temple (#40) you can kiss my ass fluff as I finished $1.2mill NW higher than you and like I said your fluff ass couldnt play a single turn after I took you down to 9k pop which is why you left 150 turns on hand so blow me :)


Alternatively you might say I had 150 turns left I didn't play and you finished 4 million less NW and 12000 fewer acres than when you triple tapped me. You definitely came out better from the exchange there didn't you, well done.

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Aug 17th 2015, 15:13:01

Originally posted by h2orich:
SuperFly, I dont think his intention was to out net you.


his last message to me was him bragging how he was going to finish higher in NW than me and how he hoped that I felt that the triple tap was worth it. So i would say that his end game was to out net me after trashing my country lol


Originally posted by the Temple:
Originally posted by SuperFly:
who ever played the Temple (#40) you can kiss my ass fluff as I finished $1.2mill NW higher than you and like I said your fluff ass couldnt play a single turn after I took you down to 9k pop which is why you left 150 turns on hand so blow me :)


Alternatively you might say I had 150 turns left I didn't play and you finished 4 million less NW and 12000 fewer acres than when you triple tapped me. You definitely came out better from the exchange there didn't you, well done.


yes i did come out better on the exchange as you were trash talking me about having a higher finish which you did not. Sure you AB`ed me into the ground and you cost me a top 10 finish but you also missed out on NW and land as well so from a netting perspective there was no winner. Only a guy who trashed talked me and could not deliver at the end...

Edited By: SuperFly on Aug 17th 2015, 15:18:55
See Original Post

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Aug 17th 2015, 15:53:19

Originally posted by h2orich:
Originally posted by Ti annichilisco:

Shukt, so if I read you formula correct, as I had ~30 turns left (is it the set turns or my personal turns ?) its ~1 +1.05. Is that 5% ? If yes, I don't think it's an addition otherwise you can be double or half the size and still hit. Then, I see that if you have only 5 turns left the range narrows tremendously, to 1.37 (I assume %). Still, we were maybe 10% NW apart. Let me understand your formula better :-)


If you had 30 turns left, it would be (30/31.7)^2+1.05 = 1.9455.
This means that your target can only be 1.94x larger than you or 1.94x smaller than you in terms of networth.

If you had 10 turns left, it would be (10/31.7)^2+1.05 = 1.15
This means that your target can only be 1.15x larger than you or 1.15x smaller than you in terms of networth.

Note that this changes very fast because in express each turn is only 4 mins long, wherelse in servers like Primary, 30 turns is actually 15 hours.


Thank you

MountainYeti Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 17:50:43

The humanitarian is not effected by your turns remaining but how many are left in the game ie only 1 if it was right at the end of set

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Aug 17th 2015, 17:52:07

Originally posted by drkprinc:
h2o is usually easy to spot out I knew he was oxycotin before set even started. took me until day2 to figure out who was celphi he really hid good this set. Took me until a series of RoR to RoR with hammer to figure him out (actually forgot) that he used that name every set pretty much thought was someone else for some reason Drunck eluded me until end set scores and even dcorn24 shocked me with his low finish.


DP, you and I handled business the gentlemen's way - 1:1 - and respect you for that. Yes, I am pretty easy to spot as I play the same country every week. Some weeks I play for the win, sometimes I experiment with other govs. Every time, I'm going to retal when it is convenient for me.

A player cannot grab and expect the other player to not retal. I play commie often, do a lot of grabbing, and expect to get hit. That's the risk I take.


Congrats to ebert and everyone else in top 10-15, and, yes, h2o is good guy.

Celphi, I hope you change your mind. It sounds like that was you demo that finished 2nd. If so, nice job man.

mFrost, thanks for creating this thread for us.

Edited By: Hammer on Aug 17th 2015, 17:55:26

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Aug 17th 2015, 18:14:01

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Originally posted by h2orich:
SuperFly, I dont think his intention was to out net you.


his last message to me was him bragging how he was going to finish higher in NW than me and how he hoped that I felt that the triple tap was worth it. So i would say that his end game was to out net me after trashing my country lol


Originally posted by the Temple:
Originally posted by SuperFly:
who ever played the Temple (#40) you can kiss my ass fluff as I finished $1.2mill NW higher than you and like I said your fluff ass couldnt play a single turn after I took you down to 9k pop which is why you left 150 turns on hand so blow me :)


Alternatively you might say I had 150 turns left I didn't play and you finished 4 million less NW and 12000 fewer acres than when you triple tapped me. You definitely came out better from the exchange there didn't you, well done.


yes i did come out better on the exchange as you were trash talking me about having a higher finish which you did not. Sure you AB`ed me into the ground and you cost me a top 10 finish but you also missed out on NW and land as well so from a netting perspective there was no winner. Only a guy who trashed talked me and could not deliver at the end...


I see your comprehension skills are lacking. I said I was enjoying having a greater NW than you. Nothing about whether I was going to beat you in the end., just pleased at having obliterated any hope you had of a decent finish.

If you think you came out on top in any way you're on crack.

Most importantly you won't triple tap me again.


Ti annichilisco Game profile

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Aug 17th 2015, 18:57:35

Originally posted by MountainYeti:
The humanitarian is not effected by your turns remaining but how many are left in the game ie only 1 if it was right at the end of set


This explains it, with one turn left you can only be the same NW to attack back

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Aug 17th 2015, 22:07:00

np Hammer ;)

hmmm RoRs ...

let's see, someone retals a hit, then obviously the person who initiated did not have the military to hold onto the land to begin with.

If I hit A and A hits back and takes their land back then did I even deserve it to begin with? Logically I hit A thinking A would not hit back, or would not be able to hit me back.

... i.e. it is about minimizing risk, at least I think so. sort of like robbing banks, if A hits back and wins then I got caught

If I get caught the first time why in the world would I want to rob the same bank again? to show the world I can rob the stupid bank, and they need to just let me get away with it? Would it not be smarter to move onto some other bank perhaps with a little less security.

Now for would be bank robbers, before you start you need to realize that at some point you are going to get caught. So you need to figure out how much you can walk away with and keep. The math in such a case is If i sit in jail for 20 years how much am i getting paid per year to sit in jail. If i steal 10K and kept 10k then it was hardly worth it considering my end of day pay day is $500 a year. However if I walk away with 20mil then surely a million dollars a year to sit in jail might be worthy of consideration :)

If they can retal you the first time it should be obvious they can, and most likely will retal you a second time. It's sort of like robbing the bank and going to jail without being able to keep the money. In essence the ROI for the risk taken is lower then the guy who at least made 10 grand :)

mFrost

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Aug 18th 2015, 0:56:59

I don't ROR. Well not on purpose anyway.

I try to take retals like a gentleman. Double taps always get a missile or two though. I treat a ROR like a double tap.

Looking forward to next set. Should be interesting.
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Aug 18th 2015, 14:09:41

I treat an attack with a retal, then I attack and if I get retalled well its all fair, but anything more then that well then its war.
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