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Sep 1st 2010, 13:13:34

Originally posted by Silent Sentinel:

And alliances should be determined by where you live geographically =P

and lets replace jets with seige engines, and rename the game utopia.

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Sep 1st 2010, 1:22:09

Originally posted by mrford:

450 country tag in FFA

So about 25-30 members?

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Aug 31st 2010, 22:16:26

who is LaE?

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Aug 31st 2010, 1:28:45

the dirty dishes have been tag killed, but I expect restarts some time tommorow morning!

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Aug 30th 2010, 17:41:13

btw, if this game goes on facebook and takes off, you can kiss our current etiquette goodbye outside of the alliance servers.

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The trick is to introduce accountability. Maybe if we combined express with tourny - a player will be less likely to suicide if it sets them back a couple of resets. Or you can introduce accountability by forcing players to maintain the same country name from reset to reset.

Short of these changes, if you want to change the culture, you need enforce the cultural shift. Get a few grabbist buddies and kill off anyone who retaliates to land grabs with anything but another land grab. Do it enough, and the people who don't play the way you want them to will either change or leave.

Edited By: ponderer on Aug 30th 2010, 17:42:00. Reason: flow
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Aug 30th 2010, 17:06:00

the quote button looks too much like an edit button : (

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Aug 30th 2010, 17:05:01

Originally posted by Kingme:

land grabbing is part of the game, if you do it reasonably I don't see why it should be considered "risky".

If there's no risk, then it becomes another version of the explore button.

Granted, I don't agree with the idea of destroying a country for a single grab, but I also don't agree with the idea that you should bend over and take it if someone is farming you.

With a non-indy all-x, you want to maintain as little military as you think you get away with, and as much land as you can get.

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Aug 30th 2010, 16:46:28

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Why not accept a single landgrab? It used to be part of the etiquette that we used to teach everyone, but these days people act like landgrabbing is some kind of crime.

If retaliation is not proportional then the best strategy for grabbers is to pick out one poor guy and farm him and AB him so hard that he can't possibly retaliate. Sound like fun to you?

We used to teach that only making a single land grab was part of land grabbing etiquette, but a large proportion of land grabs now are double or triple taps.

Beyond that, what is the great harm of series of special attacks or missiles that do the same amount of damage, or less than a PS retal. When I'm playing all-x, often I'd rather send a missile then destock for a conventional retal. If you're my target, I'm sure you'd rather lose just the acres than lose the acres, the military, the food, and the tech that I would take with a PS or SS.

Land grabbing is, and should be risky behavior - even if you are bottom feeding. If there was no risk of a reaction to a land grab, then we should go beat our tanks into plowshares and play farmville.

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Aug 29th 2010, 23:33:15

Originally posted by PimpThang:

From the looks of things soon LAF wont be able to break most of SOLs countries without lemmings. The new worth gap of members is going to SOL very fast now and many Laf countries dont seem to be putting out much effort. Why is that? Is there a void of leadership there to inspire them? Or have they seen the end of the trail and gotten tired of the walk? The next couple days will soon speak for themselves.

There's networth, and then there's stock. Money can be concealed as food, oil, or most importantly to the majority of LaF's countries at the start of the war, tech. Tech can be sold, and turned into military in a hurry. The key will be how many LaF'ers restart, and how many of LaF's hardcore netters stick around for a fight. They've been outhit by SOL over the last 24 hours, but not by much. Outside of the FS, they've been pretty close to SOL in number of hits and kills, which is to be expected since it doesn't appear that they had any turns stored when they got hit (which is why I used the word ambush), whereas I would expect that SOL was pretty close to max turns stored when they hit.

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Aug 29th 2010, 22:04:27

Omega declares war on ..............

The dirty dishes in my sink. The combined forces of BrILo, S-Brite, and Palmolive. Our FS has been a success, but we have bogged down as the dishtray has filled up and we are out of dishtowels. A second warchat is planned for midnight, game time...

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Aug 29th 2010, 21:22:52

this war is only over if LaF rolls over. The mid-ranked countries should have had enough tech to turn into military to keep breaking SOL, and they still have the numbers to out hit SOL. But fighting a war like this, especially when you get ambushed is a matter of will.

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Aug 29th 2010, 21:03:49

dragon you're right, I probably should edit it to buildings:land for AB - that's what I would do on a triple, or a double if it was that time of the month.

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Aug 29th 2010, 20:59:37

/me misses teh sika

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Aug 29th 2010, 20:43:29

it's surprising how many people forget that they don't have a tag enforcing 1:1 retals in express. The reason ss and ps retals are the norm in alliance, ffa, and team is because they are enforced by the alliances. An alliance will go to war over 1:1 nuke or chem retals for land grabs.

A missile or two, three or four special attacks - these can be valid retals for landgrabs on this server, because there is no unified authority enforcing retal rules.

You don't just retal to get your land back, you retal to make the next land grabber think twice. A valid retaliation is anything up to the point where a land grabber decides to stop netting and fight back.

Edited By: ponderer on Aug 29th 2010, 20:46:06
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Aug 28th 2010, 23:55:07

as of this morning, there was only 1 country running a full oiler strat, unless one of the 4 gdi countries are oilers too.

The rest of the oil seems to be coming from rainbows.

Too many all-x'ers, not enough demand I guess.

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Aug 28th 2010, 15:47:54

SOL has done well, but if LaF keeps organized, they still have the lead based on number of members. Hitting this early helps SOL, because those netgaining strats with large stockpiles do very well in an extended war. As it is, LaF's surviving countries can live off of their tech and break all of SOL's countries.

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Aug 28th 2010, 15:41:43

from a country with only 1 military unit, one would expect the purchase of troops would stop gs's... of course not that I'm implying that any country hinted at on this thread has only 1 military unit ...

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Aug 28th 2010, 15:40:13

btw, trock, what name do you use when you're not trolling?

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Aug 28th 2010, 15:31:44

anyone who wants to know 108's mil, send me a message in game. anyone who wants to know whose missiles to defuse before meeting the same fate, message me in game.

let this be a lesson to anyone who has no troops or turrets.

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Aug 27th 2010, 22:31:50

this is spam. Mods, please delete this. ;p

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Aug 27th 2010, 21:55:33

Originally posted by gwagers:

I take it you are entertained by wars that aren't your own.

I find war very entertaining, especially when I'm in the middle of it. I think I went through 1 reset my entire time playing 1a where I didn't fight in a war, including resets where I jumped tags mid reset to join a war.

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Aug 27th 2010, 15:54:55

Originally posted by KSFRekuyukai:

well i found the first suicider but no idea why hes targetting me lol...

32 PRS DRAGON (#28) 506 $79,571 C

i think i have about 100 attacks from him and about 100 spy ops from him lol...but its cool hes only slowing me down sides he suicided on me and i went up 2 ranks. :)

interesting that #8 is also PRS Dragon.

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Aug 27th 2010, 13:19:36

Originally posted by Ravi:

It could cause some problems if the news campers from both policing alliances see a grab and both retal right away. The one who did the second hit isn't gonna be too happy, hehe

You'd have to run it from a shared board, have a head post the land grab, and first to reply gets the retal.

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Aug 27th 2010, 2:11:54

logistics sound tough, unless the two alliances were very close and could share a retal board.

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Aug 27th 2010, 1:58:00

entertaining as it is.

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Aug 27th 2010, 1:57:50

umm, AT is not the place for this conversation.

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:35:32

4 AB's and 161 buildings may be slightly excessive for a retal for a 320A landgrab straight out of protection, but it's hardly suiciding. Now if it were me and I was pissed off, I'd keep going until I was sure that my opponent had lost most of their bpt.

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:27:14

this could be construed so many ways

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:26:11

servant, didn't you guys also fs GiM at one point?

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Aug 26th 2010, 16:35:11

who said anything about rules violations - suiciding is still legal.
And I'm not asking for any specific information.

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Aug 26th 2010, 16:23:09

If you're looking to ambush someone who over grabs you or an ally, but not to ruin someone's netting set unprovoked (as many people in express are, myself included often do), then you have nothing to fear from me. Simply message me here on the forums with your country #, and I'll cross you off of my target list.

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Aug 26th 2010, 16:19:48

I will be hunting suiciders, and hoping to hit them before they strike.

Now if you're tired of being suicided on, here's how you can help. When you do your spy ops for land grabs, keep your eyes out for countries with high amounts of warfare tech. If you see such a country, let me know via forum message.

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Aug 26th 2010, 13:01:16

way to cherry pick your opponent's kills

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Aug 25th 2010, 15:38:26

this game has changed a lot since I left - we used to actually keep up the pretense that every reset was a clean slate.

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Aug 25th 2010, 2:05:22

Rage will be policing both sides in this war. As we will be considering both sides in this war to be under our umbrella of protection, our building:building retal policy will be in effect.

Cheers,
[not the] Rage President

**this is spam, not the Rage president, no clue if Rage is policing this war**

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Aug 25th 2010, 1:14:37

Pang: I think you're missing nukevil's point. He's not talking about the account you play the game with, he's talking about the forums, and the two hats you wear, game administrator, and passionate defender of all that is LaF.

In the old days, swirve moderators had a check box for turning the moderator title on and off - something along those lines would be helpful here, especially when you are making partisan posts.

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Aug 24th 2010, 18:56:37

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

I'm well aware of what arrogance means. If you are seeing it in my posts then it is only because you want it to be there.

No, the arrogance is there. But since the alliance you represent is in a position of power right now, it's your prerogative to be arrogant.

Doesn't help much with hearts and minds, but then again this has never been a hearts and minds kind of game.

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Aug 24th 2010, 17:25:00

Originally posted by PimpThang:

Thanks Superfly. From what i can tell no alliance looks strong enough to enforce a L/L policy. Too many close alliances. Unless they ALL accept that.

Or a few of them join a coalition.

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Aug 24th 2010, 1:56:14

ended up being out all afternoon, so I didn't get the chance to suicide on #5.

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Aug 23rd 2010, 17:35:18

42/(1000/119)=5

thanks : )

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Aug 23rd 2010, 16:47:34

from 1 to 1000.

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Aug 23rd 2010, 16:34:45

I've been told that Fist only does this countries that are not facing a pending retal for a landgrab, they are gs'ing after retals only.

Then again, that is what a Fist'er told me, I have not gone through the news myself.

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Aug 23rd 2010, 11:29:48

if GS's were made to hurt more individually - maybe destroy tech in addition to food, but the ability to make a pop kill was eliminated it would make a difference.

Wars before the pop kill were very different, but were long, drawn out, and generally inconclusive. I don't see the larger alliances getting behind this idea since it would make it almost impossible to deal with a well run suicider.

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