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Apr 13th 2010, 18:34:23

That's what I read. He had lambasted another pilot before, for making him late by landing somewhere else due to dangerous conditions. Although, the president claimed the pilot would be punished for it, he ended up getting a medal instead. Ah, well.
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Apr 13th 2010, 17:56:10

This thread is lose.
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Apr 13th 2010, 17:25:32

People actually agree to pay to be fans of greenday? fluff, they'd have to pay me.
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Apr 12th 2010, 22:59:31

This is a weird thread.
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Apr 12th 2010, 19:43:23

Me and Patience are a thing. She's the Tim Hortons to my Starbucks :D
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Apr 12th 2010, 18:43:38

Well, since NA was so much bigger, wouldn't that account for the higher deletion rate? :P It would seem that, considering how much bigger, they should have had a higher rate than they did.
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Apr 12th 2010, 17:34:43

make it lemon chiffon :D
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Apr 12th 2010, 17:32:26

I don't have any evidence, and I haven't looked into it at all, and I'm just pulling something out of my ass and blaring

LLAAR CHEATS CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER
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Apr 12th 2010, 16:47:02

men in hats.
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Apr 11th 2010, 9:50:55

An escape that didn't work, admittedly. Weed does have some amazing properties. I'm a smoker (cigs, in this instance), and whenever I have chronic sickness every spring and winter from it, I smoke a bit of pot, and for a couple hours, it's like I completely forgot I'm even congested, or have a headache.
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Apr 11th 2010, 9:47:13

And now we have the top political minds weighing in on the matter. :P

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Apr 10th 2010, 19:43:03

Well, he was a pole.
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Apr 10th 2010, 19:17:06

"spawn
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Apr 10th 2010, 18:32:53

a spammer :p
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Apr 10th 2010, 18:32:44

qzjul is
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Apr 10th 2010, 17:23:35

Yeah, but 7000+ of those were multis :P
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Apr 10th 2010, 16:04:57

Well, it is klown :P
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Apr 10th 2010, 7:30:57

I agree with you, Foobooy. FB people aren't really in for the long haul, at least, in my opinion. I think most of the people that would be interested in Earth are already past the point of no return. Text based games just aren't really conducive to the internet like they used to be when everyone had dial up.
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Apr 9th 2010, 18:29:52

You guys should add an "ignore" feature to the forums, so we don't have to see stuff from people that are annoying. :D

Plus: Everyone could add me to it, and I could call everyone poopy doody heads without them knowing!
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Apr 9th 2010, 5:39:51

After reading archaic's post, I guess the biggest problem I have with the video and the pilots is that they act as judge, jury, and executioners, although that may be put more on the command, than them. I think the fact that that kind of power is available to a fallible human is just wrong. Not that we're the only ones that do that or anything, but it's a lot easier when you're far away with a big ass gun.
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Apr 8th 2010, 19:56:00

That's because you're in the middle of the godamn desert, DM :P It's heat stroke!
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Apr 8th 2010, 19:54:56

Yah, it's been like this for awhile.
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Apr 8th 2010, 17:50:43

In regards to the highlighted fluffs, that is.
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Apr 8th 2010, 17:50:27

wtf are you talking about llaar? You teh crazy.
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Apr 8th 2010, 16:38:04

Well, I just changed mine to 500, logged out, logged back in and...it doesn't work. Still shows two pages. :(
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Apr 8th 2010, 16:36:18

Ah, good point, I forgot about that.
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Apr 8th 2010, 16:35:42

I took all the members that are missing into the toolshed! >_> They'll come out when I'm damn good and ready.
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Apr 8th 2010, 16:24:26

The one big thing is, for anyone that thinks pot shouldn't be legal, or at least decriminalized, should also be advocating for prohibition of alcohol. One alters your brain chemistry - the other kills your brain cells. Which isn't a news flash or anything, but obviously I'd rather have brain cells to be altered, than none at all.

Foog- Good point, but good luck. We can't keep much out of the hands of youngsters nowadays, probably won't be able to in the future. And Klown, just because you've seen it happen doesn't mean it happens to everyone, I don't replace productivity or enjoyable hobbies with pot, I just never really had a drive for them anyway.

Either way, pot isn't destructive, the places where it is decriminalized or legal tend to have a lower rate of people that smoke it, and the fact that one of the most powerful hallucinogens is legal to buy, but pot isn't, show's how fluffed up this countries priorities are.
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Apr 8th 2010, 16:06:23

aim and ICQ can talk to each other. At least, they could last time i used 'em both.
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Apr 8th 2010, 3:58:08

Anything can be addictive, if you let it. Pot isn't naturally. It makes things more interesting, so yes, it may be nice to do a lot, but the only people that NEED it to do anything are the type of people who are easily addicted. I've smoked for years, and I've quit for long stretches of time, without thinking about it. I also smoke cigarettes, and without one for a few days, I'd be one irritable bastard. I could probably not smoke pot for the rest of my life, and never be irritated about it. I'd be bored, sure, but I wouldn't need it.
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Apr 8th 2010, 1:02:41

True, H4x0r.
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Apr 8th 2010, 1:01:35

He claimed that the people from the van were gathering wounded AND weapons, which the ROE say is a hostile act. Those people didn't touch any weapons, they tried to help the injured reporter. The pilot simply wanted to fire his penis-compensator to get even with, in his delusional mind, people who were trying to kill the ground troops. He also exaggerates the number of people carrying AK-47's, which isn't illegal to do in Iraq.

Long story short, this guy wanted to kill somebody, bent the truth to do it, killed at least 2 innocent people, injured two children, and probably won't get in any trouble over it. Mission accomplished, America!
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Apr 8th 2010, 0:51:28

I'd say I probably could operate a car just as well. Unless, like I said, I was really, really stoned, in which case I wouldn't want to drive, anyway. And while I could see some people being 200 percent worse at driving or concentrating while stoned, I would put them in the extreme minority (1 to maybe 3 percent of people).

I'd agree that it should be like alcohol in that you should be able to do it at home, privately, or somewhere that allows it, but if they were to give DUI or anything like that for driving stoned, it might as well just be illegal. Most people would probably have to smoke a few bowls of weed to equal the effects of a few beers before driving, and that'd more likely than not would only be if they smoked rarely.
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Apr 7th 2010, 23:42:35

And I dare anyone here to smoke a bong full of at least 40x salvia!

For those of you wondering what it's like, here's one example: http://www.youtube.com/...tziEg&feature=related
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Apr 7th 2010, 22:27:30

I didn't really want to create a new thread to complain about this, so I'll just put it here. When you post on a multiple page thread, it brings you back to the first page. Not really a big problem, just an inconvenience to be aware of.

BE AWARE OF IT! >:D
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Apr 7th 2010, 22:11:17

How is it bad, then? You can't just proclaim something to be bad without any evidence showing it is.
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Apr 7th 2010, 21:21:34

Klown, how are those things irrelevant? If it doesn't cause accidents or illness, then what's so terrible about it? Or are you one of those people that assume if the government says something is bad and evil, you blindly believe it?
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Apr 7th 2010, 20:52:36

Some probably would, but it would be a boring and pathetic thing. When they came out with a subscribers forum on deviantart, it was retarded.
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Apr 7th 2010, 18:15:07

"whacked out pot head"? :P
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Apr 7th 2010, 17:50:27

Well, I'll just say that I'm not sure the higher military command has any idea what they're doing. And while you could say the pilot didn't have "malicious intent" in the fact that he assumed he was shooting at enemy combatants, he lied to get around the ROE. And he definitely sounded malicious when he begged the injured man to pick up a gun, even if it wasn't initial. He should still be punished.

And like TAN said, it's not like Iraq invaded us. We're the ones terrorizing them. The insurgents are, too, but as has been pointed out, it's not like we're fighting a cohesive army that we can win against. We could be there for the next 1000 years, and they'll still find a way to keep going.
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Apr 7th 2010, 17:42:47

That's because people that multitask a lot suck at it, martian. If you have to divide your attention in any way, it'll impair your ability to drive.

And do you have a link to any of the data that pot makes you a worse driver? I'm not saying it doesn't, but I'd like to see some hard numbers. :P

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Apr 7th 2010, 17:16:50

I'm not saying it makes people drive better, but the amount it makes your driving worse is negligible. I've ridden in a car with a stoned driver more times than I could count, and have never been anywhere close to an accident. Pot is nothing like alcohol, it doesn't make you pay less attention to the road, or think safety is unimportant, most people pay more attention, if anything. I've also been at more than a few party's where someone had coke, and I've never touched the stuff.

Like I said, it's not weed that makes people do stupid things or try new drugs, stupid people smoke weed and people that like drugs smoke weed, but the pot doesn't cause it, it's just there.
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Apr 7th 2010, 5:49:31

True that. I don't know where to begin with what's wrong in the US presently, but I do know fighting a multi-front war against an enemy that blends in with civilians and is religion based doesn't help.
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Apr 7th 2010, 5:41:59

While it's all good that we're helping people and whatnot, we have enough problems at home. We can't help everyone. Honestly, our economy wouldn't be so fluffty right now if we didn't keep shoveling money into the middle east.
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Apr 7th 2010, 5:17:58

I saw a post from a journalist who was actually there, and he said one of the soldiers on the ground who was carrying one of the girls is haunted by it, so I know it's not exactly the soldiers fault. And while it is partly the insurgents' faults for hiding amongst civilians, it still doesn't justify it. Even if those guys had been armed to the teeth, who is to say we're right in sending in choppers to cut them down? Sure, we may be saving other people's lives, but again, who are we to say who should live and die?

We're not making things better over there. I mean, we *may* be right now, but what's gonna happen when we leave? Those aren't the kind of places that just magically turn into paradise over night. Every time the marines clear somewhere in Afghanistan, the taliban seem to just waltz back in and take over, if they feel like it. Sometimes we can get the locals to take up arms and keep them out, but unless we intend on baby sitting every godamned combat zone over there for the rest of time, this is all an exercise in futility.
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Apr 7th 2010, 4:55:09

Yeah, except this is one of the drugs that could easily be legalized, and take money and power out of the hands of criminals. It's not going to make a difference. People think the world would explode, somewhat like they thought the healthcare bill would kill all of us. Sanity doesn't play a part, in their minds.
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Apr 7th 2010, 4:52:29

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just over-empathetic, but I just don't think something like this should be written off as simply collateral damage. I know it's happened before, and will happen again, but like I said, it's exactly the kind of thing that gives our enemies fuel to recruit new soldiers.

This is the kind of thing that would probably go unnoticed- until a really big fluff up happened. I'm not saying those pilots went in there wanting to blow the crap out of innocent people, but that's what they did. And if the video quality for them isn't enough to be able to identify what the situation is, then they shouldn't do anything. Even 1 innocent life lost is too much. Anyone can say it's inevitable, until it happens to them.

Imagine being in one of those guys' family. "Well, y'see, your dad was standing there, and we THOUGHT his camera was an RPG, so we killed him. Well, actually, we only injured him, but then a van came and some guys got out to help him, and then we killed all of them. Because we THOUGHT they MIGHT have weapons. So, you can see our viewpoint."
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Apr 7th 2010, 3:55:22

I completely support our troops, just not the ones that ARE crazed animals. Some people should just not be given weapons. And the enemy in Iraq isn't a cohesive, singular group, they don't care if civilians die, like we would. Or at least, should.

My point is that doing things like this is what's going to get people to join militias and terrorist groups. Just try to say that people wouldn't do the same here, if our country was occupied by a large group of foreigners. "Just doing my job" doesn't work for ex-nazi's, and it shouldn't fly with us, either. If your commander tells you what to do, that's one thing. If they tell you something unreasonable, you can refuse to do it.

But when you lie to them, so that you can get all trigger-happy on innocent people, like the ones in the video, you deserve to be curb stomped, "serving your country" or not.
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Apr 7th 2010, 3:46:47

What creeps me out the most are the pilots. They seem to have little, if any, regard for human life. It's just a game to them. And don't feed my that "They watched their buddies die" crap. Someone invades your country, what are you going to do, sit back and let them kill you?
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Apr 7th 2010, 3:36:37

TGD pretty much wins. Klown is el teh losro.

Edited By: AoS on Apr 7th 2010, 3:36:46
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