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spawn Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:28:28

sorry that we had to kill your country, but you left us no choice

you didnt want to talk to us and after contact was established you abandoned reason and went with a childish "but i dont want too" attitude.

the fact that your member had dropped land he got from his RoRs didnt help

i hope we can move on now

Spawn
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p.s. sorry for the AT post, but you guys are hard to get ahold off
/slap iZarcon

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Deerhunter Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:35:33

WOW- messages like this really should be in private between leadership. Is this guy posting a rouge member or really a leader in his alliance? If he is- it would really explain a lot. Rage, good luck and go get some dinner.
Ya, tho i walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I shall fear no retals,
Cause i have the biggest, baddest, and toughest country in the valley!

de1i Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:37:18

If he wasn't blushing before he will be next time he logs in.

ZEN Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:41:47

Originally posted by Deerhunter:
WOW- messages like this really should be in private between leadership. Is this guy posting a rouge member or really a leader in his alliance? If he is- it would really explain a lot. Rage, good luck and go get some dinner.


Messages like this shouldn't be posted.

Detmer Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:43:49

Originally posted by ZEN:
Originally posted by Deerhunter:
WOW- messages like this really should be in private between leadership. Is this guy posting a rouge member or really a leader in his alliance? If he is- it would really explain a lot. Rage, good luck and go get some dinner.


Messages like this shouldn't be posted.


Confirmed.

I used to feel the same way as Deerhunter but then I realized that it really doesn't matter.

de1i Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:44:06

Zing.

BobbyATA Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:44:17

haha awesome.

jdpanther42 Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 18:56:17

go for it Rage :)
there is no shame in being an idiot, but only if you stay one

toma Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 19:23:00

Deerhunter the problem is dlance logs out middle of FA talks and today in the morning left MSN within 5 seconds of spawn loggin in. They're making it impossible to deal in private.
Originally posted by Slagpit:
Ruining peoples fun for no reason is okay, but ruining it for a reason I disagree with isn't okay. Never change, community.

iZarcon Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 19:40:49

Hmmz. Nice move on fist's part. Will be interesting to see what happens
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spawn Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 22:52:44

in case there is any confusion, we didnt dec on Rage, we simply killed a country...
/slap iZarcon

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Makinso Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 23:27:33

Weren't both of those alliances in a coalition or something ?

Chewi Game profile

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Aug 17th 2010, 23:36:26

Originally posted by Makinso:
Weren't both of those alliances in a coalition or something ?




Fist wasn't in it.

Also I guess Rage didn't learn from last set.

Jelly

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Aug 17th 2010, 23:52:11

Man, if Tirol ever saw what RAGE is like now, he might go insane.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:14:08

I made contact.

Your FA made outrageous demands of multiple K of land, whilst simultaneously denying you dealt in land:land.

You realised you couldn't break and instead resorted to killing a country over 1 or 2 RoR?!?

Very odd.

Your right i need to appoint another FA than myself though, since i have run into tim constraints i didn't expect.

Slagpit Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:15:39

Just saying this as an outside observer:

Aug/17/10 18:16:44 GS Terror (#222) (TheFist) Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE) 2137 C 1369 F
Aug/17/10 14:57:50 PS FISTing Spawn from behind (#205) (TheFist) Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE) 1215 A 1682 A

Looks like they could break?

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:15:54

ok, i noticed you did take 1 retal, then killed...?

so you killed the country why? if you got your land back?

as a statement about poor FA work?!?

Slagpit Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:18:19

Dead countries can't RoR?

Again, as an outside observer.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:19:29

Dead countries also don't generate ghost acres for the fist when they LG it..

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:20:13

if we keep killing each other over a couple of misplaced land grabs/retals/RoR etc. we are never going to be able to encourage a more free flow of land between alliances.

Slagpit Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:21:41

I'd agree with that.

Kyatoru Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:22:48

Farm them back!
+Kya

Ravi Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:26:54

Come on now guys..why don't you just kiss and make up. Flip a coin as to who has to play the female.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 0:27:25

shotgun!

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 1:23:33

p.s. Deerhunter..

What is wrong with thefist posting this msg here instead of in private?

i don't think there is anything wrong with them posting here instead..:p

Ruthie

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Aug 18th 2010, 1:41:15

Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by ZEN:
Originally posted by Deerhunter:
WOW- messages like this really should be in private between leadership. Is this guy posting a rouge member or really a leader in his alliance? If he is- it would really explain a lot. Rage, good luck and go get some dinner.


Messages like this shouldn't be posted.


Confirmed.

I used to feel the same way as Deerhunter but then I realized that it really doesn't matter.



Double Confirmed
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de1i Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 1:43:09

Personally I always felt it disrespectful if people posted their FA matters with IX on AT, but generally that was because they were too ignorant to look at/find the FA Contact List on our website.

This on the other hand is a thread with completely different intentions, and a situation/thread that might even become a good read if some more deaths occur as a result, wink wink nudge nudge.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 1:44:05

we are but here to entertain

Ruthie

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Aug 18th 2010, 1:44:53

and be entertained ;)
~Ruthless~
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Devestation Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 1:52:13

Originally posted by Jelly:
Man, if Tirol ever saw what RAGE is like now, he might go insane.


Originally posted by Chewi:
I guess Rage didn't learn from last set.


^

AxAlar Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 2:17:55

Dragonlance, can i do FA for RAGE? :P

Im much better at the GFY FA work :)
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toma Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 6:55:30

Here is what happened.

- Fist guy landgrabs Rage for 600 acres.
- Another Rage guy retals badly and only gets 300 acres from a 7800 acre country. Is not happy so considers fist did a topfeed and retals again.
- Fist country had more land and nw than the rage country when rage retalled.
- Dragonlance not on msn for 2 days.
- Fist retals ROR
- Rage country hits Fist country 3 times and drops land.
- Fist posts a message on AT calling for dragonlance.
- Dragonlance finally appears on msn and says you're getting 1 retal for 3 RORs and leaves msn which prevents further discussion.
- Next morning Spawn logs into msn dragonlance logs out within 5 seconds.
Originally posted by Slagpit:
Ruining peoples fun for no reason is okay, but ruining it for a reason I disagree with isn't okay. Never change, community.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 7:14:50

if spawn was so concerned, why did he palm me off to a lower FA?
you exclude the 2 other LG's done by thefist that we retalled as well, so clearly there was an intent from thefist to try and get maximum land out of us.

I already apologised for the dropped land and said i would do whatever i could to help out with that matter, it was an error by the country, not a deliberate move.

thefist country had LESS land when it LG'ed, and roughly equal NW. this same fist country made numerous grabs against other alliances and was clearly out to cause trouble.

You seemed hell bent on applying what you considered the "retal norms". I was trying to twist it around as i saw a potential for future land exchanges between thefist and rage which would have generated excellent ghost acres for both clans.

However you decided to kill this country rather than encourage more beneficial grabbing. So be it, the choice was yours. We will not be taking action against you, however we will be introducing a 1:kill policy on any future LG's on our alliance from thefist, so as to avoid you gaining any advantage from ever grabbing us.

All other unpacted alliances are more than welcome to try their luck.

toma Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 8:20:13

If you want to have land exchanges with people you should see how Neofed, EEVIL, Monsters and even Imag have gone about it.

One alliance lgs once and the other alliance retals once.
Originally posted by Slagpit:
Ruining peoples fun for no reason is okay, but ruining it for a reason I disagree with isn't okay. Never change, community.

diez Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 8:52:17

*farms rage*

Silent Sentinel Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 10:29:28

So proud of a single kill?

And a 1 troop GS at that?

Took the option you could prevail with, because it certainly wouldn't have been the case had you tried to go toe to toe with me.

You deterrant countries are terrible, and that from a Rager who's never finished a netting set is saying something.


I'm sure you're trying to make a point in there somewhere, but in essence no-one else really gives a toss.

Stinson OUT!

Thunder Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 10:46:55

Maybe they are just keeping your non-netting streak alive ? heh heh
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iZarcon Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 14:21:48

oo, 1:kill.

*pops some popcorn and sits back to watch teh show*
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Devestation Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 15:11:58

SS.

You still haven't yet learned from the mistake RAGE made last set. You said it didn't count as point of reason because the guy who made it was the guy who was pointing it out. It's a mindset that states "I am RAGE, and hence I am always in the right", and it's the same mindset that you would probably accuse LaF and/or Fist of having. You'll definently be better at running the Ia department than me, but at least make the effort to learn how to tell when you are wrong.
Taking an extra retal because (quoted from within the RAGE site) "He's an asshole who thinks he can keep his land due to DR (an argument that acknowledges that you're only entitled to one frigging retal!), so we'll show him not to do that anymore" is overstepping what RAGE can do according to the rules that it's been playing by for time incognita. You are not law enforcement on this game for anyone but RAGE. Don't try and enforce law for any goal that expands beyond the good of RAGE and you won't get shot in the foot. Hopefully, the rest of RAGE won't be screwed up this set for your mistake.

Originally posted by Silent Sentinel:
So proud of a single kill?

And a 1 troop GS at that?

Took the option you could prevail with, because it certainly wouldn't have been the case had you tried to go toe to toe with me.

You deterrant countries are terrible, and that from a Rager who's never finished a netting set is saying something.


I'm sure you're trying to make a point in there somewhere, but in essence no-one else really gives a toss.

Stinson OUT!


Rebuttals that insult something other than the reason why you were killed (in this case the method, and I bet you'd GS the zero troop indy too), then used "nobody gives a toss about logic" to dismiss everything else. I'm almost willing to put cash on the fact that the last non-drunk/stoned/otherwise-incapacitated teenager that you arrested for an on-the-spot offense used that one too.


Rest of RAGE:
Have fun without me, I'll try to keep in contact with a few of you that I have the contacts of, but this one made me lose all hope in the future of the alliance, especially with the rest of you agreeing (and even going to the point of selecting Fist members to farm) with what SS did in the name of the "RAGE spirit". RAGE will not always be correct in everything, suggesting members are disloyal because they point out that RAGE messed up is fascism.
Maybe Spaced explored 120 turns between where Terror selected him and actually hit him, but you'll never know. I actually tried to check and see who was bigger on the Boxcar graphs, but they don't get any more specific than within the vicinity of around 5 days. Use as LaF conspiracy material at your leisure.

ZEN Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 15:28:31

I know this is like fresh and everything.

But you should join LCN devestation, so that I can get demoted to a place of no responsibility.

LCN will always admit when we are wrong, luckily we are never wrong. Boobs are good.

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iZarcon Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 15:30:52

... wow. poor rage. another active gone
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kemo Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 15:59:55

dev is quite happy with his title of "picker of kemos belly button lint"
all praised to ra

iZarcon Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 17:02:45

Devastation, in relation to not knowing what size they were when it happened, LKS keeps track of actual networth inline with country news.

So, basically, an imag member thats online could tell you the networth each country was before and after the attack as per the 5 minute scores update increments.

Better yet, dragonlance could use his account to do it himself.

Hmmz. On my phone right now or i'd paste it myself.
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Soviet Game profile

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Aug 18th 2010, 17:14:34

Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE)
08/12/2010 14:06:01 GT Networth Change $1,419,472 [Up] $26,601
08/12/2010 14:04:38 GT Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE) Terror (#222) (TheFist) PS 287 Acres (+189)
08/12/2010 13:46:01 GT Networth Change $1,392,871 [Up] $23,906
08/12/2010 13:43:38 GT Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE) Terror (#222) (TheFist) PS 303 Acres (+191)
08/12/2010 11:51:01 GT Networth Change $1,368,965 [Down] $8,495

Terror (#222) (TheFist)
08/12/2010 14:06:01 GT Networth Change $738,007 [Down] $20,759
08/12/2010 14:04:38 GT Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE) Terror (#222) (TheFist) PS 287 Acres (+189)
08/12/2010 13:46:01 GT Networth Change $758,766 [Down] $21,233
08/12/2010 13:43:38 GT Pride of Rage (#136) (RAGE) Terror (#222) (TheFist) PS 303 Acres (+191)
08/12/2010 13:36:01 GT Networth Change $779,999 [Up] $11,079

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Devestation Game profile

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Aug 19th 2010, 4:44:57

The argument hinges on #222 making the first grab, not the RoR made after Soviet.

ZEN you are late :P

Dragonlance Game profile

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Aug 19th 2010, 4:46:25

we've had no issues with any other alliance toma. Your FA was rude, period. We are unpacted, and have no history of past alliance.

Deve, if you had a prob with SS, should have come to me, anyway i'll chat in priv. with you=)

SS, stop being a tool and man up, admit your mistakes and move on.

ZEN, you are, and always will be, right to me.

de1i Game profile

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Aug 19th 2010, 6:03:58

This is queer, go to war already.

spawn Game profile

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Aug 19th 2010, 8:45:39

we werent rude, we were nice considering we could have asked for 9 retals....

heck, you even say yourself that SS was wrong...
/slap iZarcon

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Devestation Game profile

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Aug 19th 2010, 8:59:23

Originally posted by de1i:
This is queer, go to war already.

xD

iZarcon Game profile

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Aug 19th 2010, 9:46:41

Original Grab news in descending order:
Fist's Country's Networth/Land before and after:
08/12/2010 12:36:01 GT Land Change Now: 6,277 Acres [Up] 1,063 Acres
08/12/2010 12:36:01 GT Networth Change $650,766 [Up] $52,092
08/12/2010 12:33:22 GT Terror (#222) (TheFist) You Ruined My Life (#65) (RAGE) PS 777 Acres (+286)
08/12/2010 12:31:01 GT Land Change Now: 5,214 Acres [Up] 1,170 Acres
08/12/2010 12:31:01 GT Government Change From: Monarchy to To: Tyranny
08/12/2010 12:31:01 GT Networth Change $598,674 [Up] $58,284

Rage's Country's Networth/Land before and after:
08/12/2010 18:41:01 GT Land Change Now: 8,216 Acres [Up] 2,244 Acres
08/12/2010 12:36:01 GT Land Change Now: 5,972 Acres [Down] 777 Acres
08/12/2010 12:36:01 GT Networth Change $508,657 [Down] $59,057
08/12/2010 12:33:22 GT Terror (#222) (TheFist) You Ruined My Life (#65) (RAGE) PS 777 Acres (+286)
08/11/2010 18:56:01 GT Networth Change $567,714 [Up] $41,647
08/11/2010 00:41:01 GT Networth Change $526,067 [Up] $44,052
08/11/2010 00:36:01 GT Land Change Now: 6,749 Acres [Up] 2,859 Acres
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