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SuperFly

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Sep 9th 2024, 6:57:39

Originally posted by Slagpit:

So you already knew that arsevamp wasn't my forum alt? Why the fluff did you engage in this pointless semantic debate then? Your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem. Who gives a fluff if you think I misworded something? That is the definition of bad faith engagement.

fluff off and leave me alone.

Bro, i tell Galleri all the time to just ban her thorns in her side for a week every time when guys like Black Hole, Cathankins, Josey, Empy, etc.. piss her off.

Just silence your enemies or please add the mute function for me so that I can vanquish them from my forum experience :)

Cuz some guys be annoying AF. Hell if you promote me to forum mod for the week I’ll give them all an unbiased forum ban for a week for you and for me lol

Cathankins

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Sep 9th 2024, 10:40:36

Inferiority complex on full display

Eternal seething activated ^^^

Names country names in honor of cat he seething is hard

Bans all players and can’t figure out why they only have 100 aging boomers

Gee I love abusive players and being banned if I reply what a fun experience I’ll make sure to come back and tell my friends

Drow

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Sep 9th 2024, 10:51:02

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Originally posted by Drow:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

SOL had over 48 hours and 119 posts to deny that they planned to FS us in the war dec thread. They did not do so. But sure man, keep talking about burdens of proof. I'm sure that you'll cut through the spin and enlighten us all.

Again, the question you keep dodging: what benefit is there to SoL to hit ATSucks going into a prearranged war with M4D? The numbers between the two are even, so why would they want to a) divert resources, and b) increase the number of opponents to fight?

EDIT: where the advantage of ATSucks hitting SoL to M4D is immediately evident in that it leaves an otherwise equal numbers opponent hampered.

There is no logic or sense, and even a moments thought would have had just about anyone asking why they'd do so.

I'm not dodging anything. You aren't even involved here. You're deliberately inserting yourself into a situation that doesn't involve you and acting in pretty obvious bad faith.

I was told that SOL was planning to hit AT Sucks because they were concerned that the tag was hiding members which could interfere in their planned war. As I already said before in this thread: "Everybody knows that SOL and Mercs are easily capable of both FSing AT Sucks first and doing an arranged war later."

Let me ask you a question since you're demanding so many answers from me: why do you think that so many posters on AT consider lying and misleading others to be virtuous?

Because it seems to be a part of the game culture.
I'm making a point of trying to do the opposite.

That is the first genuine point you have made so far, and a reasonable piece of information. That said, I'm pretty certain just about every tag was keeping at least half an eye on you this set. That is not the same as "prepping to FS you".
Indeed, I told at least one of your players this set that I was specifically watching you all, because I was made aware of certain players there. Does that mean that we were planning to FS you as well?

your comment about their "easily capable" is irrelevant however.
What you have chosen to do is insert yourself in a pre agreed and pre arranged war, likely affecting the final outcome.
Further, by hitting SoL so early, you have ensured that it has a significant effect on their late games.
That's poor form however you spin it.

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Drow

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Sep 9th 2024, 10:56:09

Originally posted by Slagpit:

What I believe and what you said are two different things.

You made a specific, and explicit, denial of having ANY alternate forum accounts.
Not "the arseVAMP account is not mine"

Also, for a little clarity, you posting as drow would not be "impersonating staff".
ME posting on my account, claiming to be you, would, on the other hand, be "impersonating staff".
Given that at no point did arseVAMP claim to be you, "impersonating staff" is a complete and utter irrelevancy, and you had no reason to bring it up, except to try and bluster and obfusticate the situation.

Hate me all you wish, I'll still call fluffty behaviour out where I see it, without fear or favour.
And, like I said, the choice to attack me after I called you out for being dishonest, to me, at least, simply reinforces that you think you can get away with being dishonest.

I do NOT believe dishonesty is a virtue, and I have made a point of not acting disingenuously or dishonestly since taking up leadership here.

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Cathankins

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Sep 9th 2024, 11:20:07

“ Let me ask you a question since you're demanding so many answers from me: why do you think that so many posters on AT consider lying and misleading others to be virtuous?”

I don’t know but as a player that has come and is planning on leaving and probally not coming back it has ruined the experience and I don’t want to be a part of a community like this.

It’s ok to attack people for certain things as well but if they respond in an equally aggressive way they get banned. I imagine this has also driven away a lot of players.

My personal opinion is this place is going to go out of business if someone doesn’t buy it. The player base here is literally evil and I am
Hated now because I truthfully spoke about these people’s behavior.

Cathankins

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Sep 9th 2024, 11:20:56

I’m only leaving this feedback because I bet most of your players that left were thinking the same. I expect it will be deleted since it’s the truth.

BlackHole

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Sep 9th 2024, 11:32:01

Originally posted by Slagpit:

I personally witnessed the SOL leader tell you in discord that your war declaration was full of lies. I also personally witnessed offer to make a 'bet' with her that if she couldn't point out your lies, you were going to ban her for 2 months.

I think that suffices as her disputing your version of events.

BlackHole

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Sep 9th 2024, 11:36:56

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Galleri has specifically told me I'm a 0 out of 10 on pissing her off. You owe me an apology SuperNOTfly

BlackHole

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Sep 9th 2024, 11:41:46

Originally posted by Cathankins:

I’m only leaving this feedback because I bet most of your players that left were thinking the same. I expect it will be deleted since it’s the truth.

Dude, literally no one cares about you. No one is talking to you, and no one wants you to talk to them.

This thread is about Drow owning Slagpit, and ATSucks making me look good.

Please let it continue, as it's incredibly fun to watch.

EmpyreanMKR

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Sep 9th 2024, 11:47:17

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

How in fluffS name did i get lumped into that group of people???
I am literally quiet for months and then BH says something stupid. Then I go back to playing the game quietly again.
This is F***ed up bro.

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Steeps

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Sep 9th 2024, 12:48:15

As a person playing a country in SoL this set, at no point was I given any instruction to save turns or be war prepped by a certain date for any warlike FS. Getting warfare tech is just standard procedure for players who want to be prepared if there is a future war. If we were planning to hit then a turnsave would have been announced well in advance.

arseVAMP

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:23:01

Originally posted by Steeps:

Bad news, this might just mean you're not important enough to be in the know.

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:24:54

Steeps is one of the guys in SOL that’s important enough to know everything. He’s one of their decision makers lol.

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arseVAMP

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:26:58

Originally posted by Coalie:

Steeps is one of the guys in SOL that’s important enough to know everything. He’s one of their decision makers lol.

Then he would be giving the orders, not receiving them ;)

EmpyreanMKR

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:27:49

This is about as entertaining as watching my life pass me by....

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SuperFly

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:39:02

Originally posted by Cathankins:

I don’t know but as a player that has come and is planning on leaving and probally not coming back it has ruined the experience and I don’t want to be a part of a community like this.

The player base here is literally evil and I am Hated now because I truthfully spoke about these people’s behavior.

First part, excellent I think a lot of people will be glad for you to leave once and for all.

Second part, you went from a really nice guy on the forums and ingame for years and turned into an absolute toxic menace ingame and on the forums as evidenced by your 14th ban of 2024.

Why don’t you just change your attitude and go back to the nice guy that you were in 2023? I am sure that many would forgive your actions if 2024 Cath turns back to your old nice guy self….

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:42:06

Originally posted by EmpyreanMKR:

This is about as entertaining as watching my life pass me by....

It sounds like you're feeling stuck or maybe even a bit disillusioned with what's going on right now. When things feel unfulfilling, it can make time seem like it's just slipping away without much meaning. Have you thought about what might be contributing to this feeling? Sometimes it helps to reflect on whether you're engaging in things that align with what really matters to you, or if you're just going through the motions. Let's talk about what could bring more engagement or excitement into your life.

How bout dat

Kingme

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Sep 9th 2024, 14:44:27

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Agreed, I had interactions with you in the past and you seemed pleasant enough (even though you attacked me in express).
Just play the game and ignore the other fluff. It's really easy to stay off the AT boards, I did it for years.

One option is to play Coop if you don't like others actions interfering with your own.

Steeps

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Sep 9th 2024, 15:05:24

Originally posted by arseVAMP:

Originally posted by Coalie:

Steeps is one of the guys in SOL that’s important enough to know everything. He’s one of their decision makers lol.

Then he would be giving the orders, not receiving them ;)

Only decision I make is what soup to restock the vending machine with, I'm not Head IA or anything like that.

VicRattlehead

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Sep 9th 2024, 16:18:42

Originally posted by Drow:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Your basic axiom is incorrect. My correction will be able to be read as supporting the logic of either side though.

Mercs/SOL side is going to have a dramatic numbers advantage over our side.

So, either they wanted to hit ATsucks because we were going to be too easy, OR we wanted ATsucks to hit them because of our disadvantage. Both sides have plausible logic chains and enough public evidence to construct a feasible theory. They are not both correct though.

I too heard rumors of SOL/Mercs planned action. I'm not particularly plaugged in outside of NA in Coop and M4D in alliance, so to me it meant the OPSEC was trash, or it was bait so SOL could have another big political kerfuffle over it on the boards. Both seemed reasonable to me at the time, especially given SOL's long history of similar actions.

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Sep 9th 2024, 18:29:07

Originally posted by BlackHole:

Am I really this stupid

The answer is yes.

Cathankins

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Sep 9th 2024, 19:52:11

Originally posted by Kingme:

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Yea I’m easy to get along with man. The mods are allowing the player base to continuously harass me over my religious beliefs and if I reply I am banned.

The continue abuse is allowed though. I played here for decades with zero problem until Doug posted my religious beliefs on here

Once everyone found out I am a Jew, their inferiority complexes kicked it and they have been seething every since. They are allowed to make jokes about it every time I come around but if I reply I am banned

I’m going to leave. I just wanted to leave feedback as a user that this expenses ruined the game and I expect the game will fell

In all of my years I have never ever seen abuse allowed like this and the victim isn’t allowed to respond

It’s easy to see why all the other players have left and it’s easy to see why I am leaving. The censorship and sociopath trolls and liars here, which is a LARGE amount of players

Dr Phil

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Sep 9th 2024, 20:13:52

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Ah, so you're "easy to get along with," are you? It’s fascinating how you perceive yourself as this beacon of peace and harmony while describing everyone around you as sociopaths and liars. Ever consider that maybe the problem isn't just with *everyone else*? After all, it's not uncommon for people who feel constantly persecuted to project their own issues onto others. Maybe there's something deeper going on here, something that’s making you feel targeted.

It’s also interesting how you see yourself as the victim of an "inferiority complex." Could it be that you’re reading more into these interactions than what’s really there? Maybe you’re letting your own insecurities cloud your judgment. Before you decide to leave and blame the entire community for your experience, it might be worth asking yourself whether this situation is truly as one-sided as you believe.

How bout dat

Cathankins

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Sep 9th 2024, 20:20:28

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

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Sep 9th 2024, 20:30:53

Originally posted by Cathankins:

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

Well, let me tell you something. If people are telling you straight up that they have a problem with your beliefs, that’s not okay. But here's the deal: you can’t control what other people say or do. What you *can* control is how you respond to it.

Now, I’m not saying you have to just sit there and take it. But if you keep letting their words get to you, you're giving them all the power. You need to decide: are you going to let these folks control how you feel, or are you going to rise above it? At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, "What do I want out of this situation?" If your goal is to have peace and enjoy the game again, then maybe it's time to look at how you're engaging with these people and if there's a better way to handle it.

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Kingme

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Sep 9th 2024, 20:34:29

Originally posted by Cathankins:

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

I've literally never seen anyone make any comment about your beliefs. I've only seen you bring them up yourself in every thread. Maybe it happened in the past, but you're the one that keeps rehashing it. I don't think any sane person would be opposed to bans to users who actually promoted hate speech based on religion. Report it if it happens.

Again to reiterate...nobody mentioned your beliefs in this thread, you did. People should keep religion and politics (RL) out of it, it's just a game.

SuperFly

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Sep 9th 2024, 20:38:59

Originally posted by Cathankins:

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

I think you should post those message and mods should ban those players.

Post pics and lets have the mods look at your inbox.

We need proof before we assemble the pitch fork brigade. If you dont post proof of who is maliciously PMing you than how can we believe you?

Steeps

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Sep 9th 2024, 21:39:26

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Cathankins:

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

You don't need proof, as long as you have intel then your actions are justified.

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 1:49:48

Originally posted by Steeps:

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Cathankins:

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

You don't need proof, as long as you have intel then your actions are justified.

The mods are deleting posts and won’t let me talk about whats happened

Don’t worry about it I won’t be back I can tell you that much.

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Sep 10th 2024, 1:57:30

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Originally posted by Steeps:

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by Cathankins:

No you haven’t seen the messages I have received. They have straight up told me they have a problem with my beliefs.

You don't need proof, as long as you have intel then your actions are justified.

The mods are deleting posts and won’t let me talk about whats happened

Don’t worry about it I won’t be back I can tell you that much.

Oh, how utterly surprising, another case of the mods doing their job. I suppose it must be quite a shock for you to encounter boundaries and rules, considering how unfamiliar they seem to be. If you're feeling so disheartened by a community that enforces its guidelines, maybe it's time to reflect on whether this space was really the right fit for you. But hey, if you’re determined to take your ball and go home, at least it’s a decision that’s, let’s say, uniquely yours.

How bout dat

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 1:59:45

Yea lmao sure man.

Hey your results speak for themselves. The numbers of people says all there is to say.

Keep allowing these sadists to hang here and good people will keep coming and then leaving.

I won’t stay around people like this and I imagine many others haven’t as well

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:01:22

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Ah, I see you're making a grand exit while casting sweeping judgments. It must be quite a revelation to discover that not every space will cater to your exact standards. If you believe that “sadists” are driving people away, perhaps it’s worth considering that your own departure might be part of a broader pattern. It’s always so much easier to point fingers and simplify complex dynamics rather than engage in self-reflection or constructive dialogue. But hey, if making dramatic exits makes you feel better, then by all means, continue.

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Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:07:18

Yes I am very aware my leaving is part of a larger patterns. This game community was MASSIVE and could be.

I have no doubt it will not succeed in its current state. No normal personal would want to hang around this behavior. It’s absurd I’ve never seen such people or a place in my life and I’ve hung around some crazy places in my life.

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:09:48

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Well, let me tell you, it sounds like you’ve got it all figured out, don’t you? You’re absolutely right in pointing out that your departure is part of a larger pattern. I mean, it’s really something to see someone with such a grand perspective on a community’s potential demise. If you’ve been around the block as much as you claim, then surely you know that not every place is going to meet your standards. Sometimes, it’s less about the environment and more about how we choose to engage with it. But hey, if you’ve decided this place isn’t for you, maybe it’s time to take a step back and ask yourself why you keep finding yourself in these situations. Is it really the community, or is there something more personal at play here?

How bout dat

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:09:50

I complained about trolling behavior. It was constant.

I was told by mods to deal with it.

I start trolling back and am deleted.

This is obviously not fair. If people aren’t going to be treated in a fair way then why would you expect anyone to stay or want to be a part of this community?

You may as well throw your money away

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:10:51

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Well, let me break this down for you. You’re saying you complained about trolling and were told to “deal with it,” and then when you trolled back, you got deleted. Now, that’s quite the turn of events. I can understand why you’d feel it’s unfair, nobody likes to be in a situation where they feel like the rules aren’t applied evenly.

But here’s the thing: engaging in trolling behavior as a response to trolling? That’s like adding fuel to the fire and then complaining about getting burned. It’s a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you’re told to handle the situation, it might be worth considering how you handle it, rather than escalating things.

If the community’s treatment of members doesn’t meet your standards, it’s understandable that you might not want to stick around. But rather than throwing your money away or making sweeping statements, it might be more productive to reflect on what led to this situation and how you can avoid similar issues in the future. Sometimes, it’s not just about the environment—it’s about how we choose to navigate it.

How bout dat

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:14:32

So you expect players to come here and be trolled and lied to, told to accept it, deleted once they accept it.

And you expect people to not leave?

I mean you are being serious right now? You think the game will not fail being managed like this?

It’s absurd

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:16:57

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Oh, absolutely, let’s just add that to the growing list of grievances, shall we? It’s almost quaint how you’re assuming that everyone is as outraged as you are. If you think that this mishandling of behavior and inconsistent moderation isn’t going to drive people away, then you’re really grasping at straws. It’s fascinating that you’re so certain about the game’s failure without acknowledging the complex dynamics at play. Clearly, your understanding of the situation is as flawless as your ability to predict outcomes. But hey, if you’re convinced that it’s all “absurd,” then perhaps the absurdity is precisely what you’re choosing to overlook.

How bout dat

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:19:12

There’s 68 players in primary and a small group of aging sociopaths here on alliance

This game is done bro and everyone is mad I am saying the hard truth

I am nothing more than a canary in a coal mine. Silencing me won’t change what’s happening here

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:21:30

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Oh, how original. you're the self-appointed oracle predicting the game’s downfall. It’s fascinating how you’ve convinced yourself that your view is the final word on the matter. While you’re busy lamenting the state of the game and decrying the reactions to your “hard truth,” it might be worth considering whether your perspective is really as objective as you think. Often, those who claim to see everything so clearly are simply reacting to their own frustrations. Perhaps it’s time to look in the mirror and question whether your dramatic insights are more about personal validation than actual clarity.

How bout dat

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:30:21

Your players have to post on discord because they cannot speak free. That says all their is to say.

The numbers don’t lie and the numbers of players don’t lie.

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:42:44

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Your players have to post on discord because they cannot speak free. That says all their is to say.

The numbers don’t lie and the numbers of players don’t lie.

Oh, the dramatic assertion that players must resort to posting on Discord because they "cannot speak freely". how quaint. It’s almost endearing how you’ve latched onto this as if it’s some profound revelation. And of course, the numbers, those ever-so-reliable indicators of truth. It’s charming how you’ve simplified the entire situation into a neat package of numbers and communication channels. Maybe instead of focusing on the superficial aspects, it would be more insightful to consider why you’re interpreting these elements as indicative of a broader problem. Sometimes, the real story lies beneath the surface.

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Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:44:30

I get your joke here. You keep replying and I reply and then I get banned and deleted. Have fun with that I am sure many people will come and see want to experience what I have here.

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Sep 10th 2024, 2:45:58

Originally posted by Cathankins:

I get your joke here. You keep replying and I reply and then I get banned and deleted. Have fun with that I am sure many people will come and see want to experience what I have here.

Well, let me break this down for you. It sounds like you’re feeling pretty frustrated, and I understand why you might think there's a pattern here. But let's not jump to conclusions about a grand conspiracy. Sometimes, our responses can escalate situations in ways we might not fully realize. Instead of focusing on the idea of a personal vendetta, it might be more productive to consider how your interactions might be contributing to the outcome. If you’re really convinced that this experience will deter others, perhaps it's time to reflect on how you handle conflicts and what you might learn from this situation.

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SuperFly

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Sep 10th 2024, 3:13:26

Can we get Simon Cowel here after Dr Phil, trump and Biden ?

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 3:14:55

You can get a piece of watermelon

Cathankins

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Sep 10th 2024, 3:15:27

Oh wait I got fried chicken

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Sep 10th 2024, 3:17:31

Originally posted by Cathankins:

You can get a piece of watermelon

Originally posted by Cathankins:

Oh wait I got fried chicken

It’s troubling to see comments like that. It’s important to recognize that such remarks carry a history of racial stereotyping and can be deeply hurtful. If you’re genuinely interested in fostering a positive dialogue, it would be wise to reflect on the impact of your words and how they may perpetuate harmful stereotypes. Creating a respectful and inclusive environment starts with being mindful of how our language and actions affect others.

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