SoF vs SOL Warstats - Earth Empires Forum

Sov

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Sep 20th 2012, 12:53:40

The problem to me is that this is like a cheap fix to the problems associated with war and really serves no purpose nor does it increase the skill required to war properly.

Both sides in a war are affected by the changes yes and it is fair across both sides but that does not make it a good change.

The change was designed to lesson the impact of a FS and slow down kills on a country. The slowing down of a kill I am fine with, but this will not make a FS any less severe. All that happens now is that if a country can come online while being GSed down he can buy up 2mil troops and basically add another 200 attacks to the amount needed to kill. How is that good?

There is no more planning a rush to kill a waller, that is a huge war tactic now effectively removed from the game. Rushing a waller was always a game of chess that was one of the most enjoyable challenges in a war.... well it no longer exists.

dagga

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Sep 20th 2012, 22:16:41

The new changes are a fluff bandaid fix that tries to be too clever by coming up with their 'own solution' rather than listen to actual changes that are logical and target the problem.

Any wonder Servant is a champion of this change? lol

Making kills runs longer is good, but doing this by increasing the number of turns required to kill a country is stupidity. They are not mutually exlusive.

Edited By: dagga on Feb 21st 2013, 2:48:22
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signatures are stupid.
Months since LaF netgained: 22

Murf

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Sep 21st 2012, 11:31:27

For once I agree with dagga

Boltar

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Sep 21st 2012, 12:12:42

Good post dagga.

Red X

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Sep 21st 2012, 12:30:35

I did enjoy coming online and having the chance of being rushed and stonewalling bouncing hits. That was always fun to me. Anyway I think there should be 2 alliance servers a beta one and this one. The beta they can test all this bullfluff out before it comes over here. As you will have your netting tags there and your war tags. Yes it will be 2 servers almost the same BUT one will have a different style game play try new fluff ever set. Increase, decrease turns. Change govt stats I personaly think it would be fun.

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Xinhuan

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Sep 21st 2012, 14:10:45

I posted this on B&S already but what should happen is

A) Slow down kills (only 1 attack per second, or per few seconds). This makes walling easier since kills take longer.

B) Compensate for (A) by making walling less ridiculous. Simply buying 500k troops or whatever shouldn't increase the number of hits needed to kill by such an extreme amount. Under the old system, buying troops didn't increase the number of turns needed to kill a country - it required running turns to gain pop. Find a median ground between the 2.

TLDR version: (A) makes killing harder, (B) makes killing wallers easier, and both balance each other out.

Murf

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Sep 22nd 2012, 7:49:54

Ttt

CrazyMatt

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Sep 22nd 2012, 19:10:25

spam

Kid

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Sep 23rd 2012, 13:52:32

RAW!

Kumander Otbol

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Sep 23rd 2012, 14:41:31

bonus

Originally posted by cypress:

no reason to start slacking just because they are getting FA

fluff them....we'll steamroll them even with the FA they are getting

davidoss

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Sep 24th 2012, 12:43:19

Have to commend both sides on the spirit with which this war has been carried out. Glad to see two seemingly opposing sides doing their battle away from the forums. Great mark of mutual respect.

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Sep 24th 2012, 19:42:40

And everyone thought we were just "complaining".......

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Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

Boltar

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Sep 26th 2012, 16:42:33

ttt so its easier to find

Kumander Otbol

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Sep 26th 2012, 17:22:24

why'd you kill me twice? :(

Originally posted by cypress:

no reason to start slacking just because they are getting FA

fluff them....we'll steamroll them even with the FA they are getting

cypress

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Sep 27th 2012, 3:14:44

They really really do not like you? :P

Zahc

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Sep 27th 2012, 5:08:20

Less talk about the sucky new changes...more sh!!t talk about the war.

Sol sucks you couldnt even kill my grandma thats already dead!

llort orp s`fos

Mockdu

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Sep 27th 2012, 15:40:06

not if you are babysitting your grandma chaz.

Kumander Otbol

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Oct 1st 2012, 12:13:26

bonus

Originally posted by cypress:

no reason to start slacking just because they are getting FA

fluff them....we'll steamroll them even with the FA they are getting

davidoss

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Oct 1st 2012, 14:53:36

bonus

dryfus

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Oct 1st 2012, 22:33:43

bonus x3

dagga

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Oct 2nd 2012, 2:30:42

LOL.

SOF and LAF orchestrate the systematic gangbanging of SOL (& co) for two years then have the gall to trumpet their victory as if it was a decent achievement.

If SOF or LAF were meted out the same punishment that SOL has absorbed for two years, SOF would be long gone and LAF would be back to 30 members.

signatures are stupid.
Months since LaF netgained: 22

Boltar

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Oct 2nd 2012, 2:35:38

and heres the crying we all waited to see.....

dagga

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Oct 2nd 2012, 2:41:56

Crying? I'm not even playing you dipfluff :)

SOF are strong due to leeching off LAF for two years. LAF whose main rise was during the leadership of a database and game hacker. A leader who set records in networth and underhanded tactics only to have his countries deleted. SOF manufactures a 1 on 1 war against an alliance who has taken more defends in more uneven contests than any other alliance in the existence of the game and beats their chest like they're Muhammad Ali.

Typical :)

signatures are stupid.
Months since LaF netgained: 22

cypress

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Oct 2nd 2012, 2:48:44

okay then

Boltar

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Oct 2nd 2012, 3:54:41

manufactures? u fluffing moron.. SoL came to us asking for the 1 on 1... and yes u can be crying the blues whether ur playing or not.

Alin

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Oct 2nd 2012, 9:01:48

/me places Boltar Dagga a goat and Isco..erhm, a sheep in a room.

/me spreads aphrodisiacs in the air conditioning sistem.

Kumander Otbol

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Oct 2nd 2012, 13:50:14

Originally posted by Boltar:

SoL came to us asking for the 1 on 1...

he doesn't like the outcome, that's why. ;)

Originally posted by cypress:

no reason to start slacking just because they are getting FA

fluff them....we'll steamroll them even with the FA they are getting

cypress

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Oct 2nd 2012, 23:12:59

That's only because we cheated to win!

Sublime

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Oct 3rd 2012, 1:22:41

and because Plowie nuked the PDM site in his sleep!!!

Kumander Otbol

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Oct 3rd 2012, 12:17:00

why do you keep killing me while i'm soundly asleep? at least give me a chance to wall next time!

Originally posted by cypress:

no reason to start slacking just because they are getting FA

fluff them....we'll steamroll them even with the FA they are getting

Duna

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Oct 3rd 2012, 14:50:00

Congrats SoF for a good job:)
And well, SoL did nice also.

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davidoss

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Oct 3rd 2012, 16:54:11

Originally posted by dagga:

Are we forgetting the set where LaF was gangbanged by 5 alliances? Nice selective memory there.

On a sidenote, I can't even believe I'm even replying to you now.

davidoss

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Oct 3rd 2012, 16:56:14

...sigh

This was actually such a good war in terms of the mutual respect shown by both sides. Right until dagga came along and tainted it.

Tokyousr

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Oct 4th 2012, 2:10:14

this was a fun war :) less than a day to go.
the FS chem by sof was super sexy.

we may have lost the war, but we will not get tagkilled !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dagga

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Oct 4th 2012, 2:50:06

davidoss - selective reading is a trait borne by most fluffheads of your ilk.

http://forums.earthempires.com/...uld-be-a-netting-alliance

SOF needs to thank LAF for everything they do considering their rise through cheating was so closely linked with SOF's rise through leeching.

signatures are stupid.
Months since LaF netgained: 22

Jiman

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Oct 4th 2012, 3:54:27

Why did SOL and SOF have equal numbers when it was SOF would made the FS?

cypress

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Oct 4th 2012, 4:01:35

^^ Don't quite understand that?

anitasanchez

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Oct 4th 2012, 4:02:26

I'm relatively new here, but why is this dagga person so full of hate?

Is this type of behavior normal on these forums? I played quite a bit of WoW and I understood the forums could get pretty bad there too, so I'm guessing it's the same here?

cypress

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Oct 4th 2012, 5:08:54

<ee> 3 GS Big Ks Empire (#285) [SOFxWAR] --> Paraskavedekatriaphobia (#171) [SOLtrain] -- 4C

WE GETTING THERE :P

Zahc

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Oct 4th 2012, 5:14:58

Dagga needs to update his sig.

One more for the tagkill!

llort orp s`fos

Zahc

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Oct 4th 2012, 5:18:27

Also that post was a joke(thought it was obvious). I had a good time in this war it sort of felt like old time sof vs sol battles. Except the numbers are 1/3 of what they used to me. I have much respect for sol even tho they are and always will be one of my favorite alliances to kill.

Less hate, more fluff. This is a game afterall

llort orp s`fos

Tokyousr

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Oct 4th 2012, 5:24:09

3213 hits taken beforefinally falling.

uh-mazing.

Sov

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Oct 4th 2012, 6:55:32

Originally posted by Jiman:

Why did SOL and SOF have equal numbers when it was SOF would made the FS?

It was a mutual FS Jiman.

Syko_Killa

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Oct 4th 2012, 9:20:06

Yea quit killing restarts sol..what happened to your lemmings like last set.. but anyways ive had a good time warring with you guys.. good job SoF leadership!!!

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