If its part of the game then why does it upset you?

Never mind i reread what you posted and you did say you were enjoying it. Its does though seem to upset others.

omg piss off man! talking to you is like a dog chasing it's tale round and round in circles. Your thick as pig fluff.

LOL so we are done playing and I should find someone else to annoy?

pig fluff ftw :D

mate your just straight out stupid it's like you don't even read a whole post before you comment.

Oh sweet your not done yet. I never claimed to be intelligent. I make a few truthful statements on what I believe and you go on a rant feeling the need to be insulting. I have yet to insult you. I guess you have nothing else left but insults? Lets see how insulting I can get you to be without insulting you even once.

you scare me to much trying to be intelligent. I'm afraid something intelligent might come out and send my brain into shock.

you said oh sweet are you a kiwi?

Again I never claimed to be intelligent why you think i am trying to is amusing. The fact that you keep going though after I have said its just for my entertainment is sweet. Being entertained so easily is such a bonus. I have only ever been serious on these boards in 2 threads all the others have been to see how far I can get someone to go off the deep end. Please keep moving farther and farther out. Could you though please come up with something different the stupid remark in your last 3 posts is starting to get boring.

Is my nationality important? If it is so you can come up with new insults I will tell you were I am from.

I give up, I've got porn to look at.

Oh come on I find racist remarks even funnier than being called stupid by someone that doesn't even know me.

Thank you, thank you, thank you guys soooo much for renewing my faith in this game and giving me a reason to keep playing. Reading those logs was like riding in a time machine, I'd almost forgotten why I keep doing this. Pushing the 'send' button over and over again is pretty boring, but THIS, this is entertainment.

Earth Empires - Characters Welcome

:)

Wanna play archaic? It is pretty easy. Just start a subject and I'll post something completely opposite giving you the chance to get upset. It just grows from there. All though if you aren't willing to get mad at me then it wont be much fun.

woohoo im famous!!!! also, most of what is being discussed here, 80% of EVO is oblivious to. KJ is not even in our tag this reset.

good, don't let him call shot's he'll get your alliance raped single-handedly. evo's credibility went up a notch.

Wow, I wholeheartedly disagree. There is always scheming in EE. If those schemers aren't willing to break pacts, what makes it okay for the other side? It's basically the Geneva Convention for EE warfare: you can do it, but it's highly unethical.

As others have mentioned previously, it is pretty disappointing that no one seems to care if an alliance breaks a pact these days.

To put it simply, getting upset here doesnt mean we'll get upset like we do in RL and for instance, like when your GF/wife charge ur card for $3000 on a prada bag after u got laid off from work,while recovering from brain surgery because u had a stroke when u found out your gf/wife has been cheating on you. with your boss.



If everyone is honest and kind in here, we all would be pioneer for world peace. Not mentioning screwing this game up big time lol. If AT upsets u or u get upset(or whatever) when people in here gets 'upset', you shouldnt be here heh.

*eats popcorn*

*sneaks behind... extend hand with palm wide open....

*munches TNTrorXxor's hand*

*Steals popcorn with the other hand

it's so hard to explain it to TY, may be we should re write this in crayon.

wow... dare I say it?
TY, I bow to you sir. this is class trolling... and even more hilariously, NEITHER of the people you are trolling seem to comprehend they are being trolled!
I love it!!!

*Sprinkle rat poison on pop corn

*Hands popcorn to Drow

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Shhh! They might figure it out, it would end any future fun for me.

No real need to call in anybody. We died and it was fun. LaF's true colors will now be shown whether they sign a ceasefire at any point or decide to farm MD for a month. There is a difference between teaching a lesson and being a$$holes. Im sure that "difference" will be the determining factor in any future policy.

Problem is, it really doesn't matter whether or not LaF's "true colors" are shown, as Evolution found that out last set and the reset before. As long as the community either supports LaF's behavior or doesn't care about it, this server will continue to be LaF's server for the foreseeable future.

The MD and Evo situation seem completely different to me though.

I'm not sure about that; the way I read the war dec thread and the leaked logs, it seems that MD's situation is merely a continuation of LaF's actions against Evo the past couple of resets--being that it appears KJ took part in the planning with Arsenal and Makinso because of LaF's unwarranted FS on EVO 2 sets ago.

The way I read the logs, Arsenal is still not over something that happened 5-6 years ago and it's not a continuation, Arsenal merely found a way/allies to exert his years old grudge.

The truth about this war is that it is all part of my plan to defeat my nemesis iScode. It's your move now iScode and I am waiting.

Its easy to try point the finger at Arsenal for things, not least because he doesnt care and won't post on AT to defend himself.

Hmm, I must have skipped the part in the logs where Arsenal was whining about whatever LaF did to him/MD such and such a time ago.

Anyways, even though I'm no longer playing, I am interested in seeing how having a dominant coalition will affect the dynamics of the Alliance server, compared to how dominant coalitions worked in the Alliance server years ago, when there were far more countries to control. Will this particular coalition (LaF, SoF, and co) end up breaking apart more or less peacefully like Arcturus, or will it end up like SLIT--breaking up twice or so before everyone goes their separate ways? Doesn't really matter in one aspect; players will end up leaving either way.

KJ> Sure, without Arsenal Evo/SoL might have planned something themselves, I totally would understand that.
But unless MD makes a statement saying that their leadership was in agreement on the idea of MD breaking relations with LaF and warring them, the logs (which is all I have to go on as nobody on the MD side offers any explanationi) seem to imply that Arsenal was the one orchestrating the LaF/MD schism.

NE> I also wonder how long the current fractinos will last, to be fair, with MD 'skipping' to the SoL side, I'm not even sure who the strongest side is at this point.

At this point, I can tell you the LaF side is stronger. The fact the logs were allegedly uploaded to a public file sharing site should give you some clues as to why my assertion should be correct. Not only was *someone* either stupid enough or disloyal enough (depending on who uploaded the logs) to post their grand plans where anyone with a functioning pair of optic nerves properly attached to a brain could see them, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if LaF also had people funneling information to them from inside the enemy's camp, and they also seem to have properly entrenched their political power among several other alliances (which no doubt are already on red alert, waiting to jump on any alliance foolish enough to try to help MD at this point).

Unless the SOL/MD/whatever side can get their act together, I don't see much changing in the near future.

Changing? You seem to forget which side broke off relations and started mobilizing for war. MD is not a victim here.

I was posting in relation to the overall political structure of the server, not who is right/wrong/victim/aggressor.

the last time i ceasefired for long term peace (last reset with SOL), while i was ceasefiring and before the ink was even dry, arsenal went to makinso to start up this stuff as you see in the logs. instead of true peace where we can try to build trust, SOL/LaF still has a 3 reset pact built upon mistrust thanks to Arsenal's interference.

you make it sound like LaF is the villain here heh. you guys thought it would be funny to "trick hlw" into signing a dishonorable pact with SOL when i wanted a true ceasefire to build long term health for our community.

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

fact number two. you guys all know that if you just left LaF alone we would've netgained. we only mobilized for war becuase YOU wanted us to.

there as not even been an apology by MD (who was our FDP at that time) to any of these events. this is the difference between SOL and MD. SOL was our enemy, and all was fair. you guys were our FDPs at that point. i'm going to say it how it is (unless you have a better explanation) you couldn't wait until we resolved true peace with SOL because you wanted the option to GB LaF with SOL if things went wrong with your 1v1 plan.

we are not the aggressors here. the whole "hanlong is paranoid" thing is nice propaganda and all, but facts are facts as everyone in this community will see. it's not paranoia when i know what you are doing. it's called responding to the threats to my alliance.

i want a public concise explanation why you felt it was appropriate and cute to interfere with a ceasefire deal with another alliance (SOL/LaF) and pollute their honest peace plan with bad intentions in the terms.

MDers talking about true colors... have you seen those logs? LOL

They're teaching you a lesson BECAUSE you were a$$holes.

they can get their act together if they stop making their pacts so fluffing shady and peace means peace not this "peace means let's trick them into netgaining so we can GB/blindside them next reset" bullfluff.

then people would start trusting them more.

LOL - too funny on way too many levels.

i pointed the finger at both you/makinso and arsenal equally.

i also told the heads of evo/sol/md this. of course i know agitated some into things like "why does LaF get to decide who runs our alliance or not".. which is fair. i apologize for that if i offended anyone.

if you know exactly why you wanted to do all this then please feel free to share.

from the logs it looks like arsenal holds a 6 year grudge against LaF (when i didn't even play or was a part of, so i believed it was unfair to me).

i know kj holds a long grudge against LaF too because of events happening in 2004 when a few RED t10 countries used the RED tag and then tagjumped to LaF after. he even resorted to botting LaF afterwards and he has said to me privately he never let it go yet.

and sol.. well sol and laf always fought every once in a while so that's just how the dynamics of sol/laf works.

Like what LaF did to EVO 2 resets ago? And last set, to a smaller extent? And broke pacts to do so both times?

I'm trying not to take sides here, even though I am pretty biased. It's just that when you go on talking about "not gb/blindsiding" and "trusting", just remember that LaF isn't exactly on a pedestal when it comes to either of those things.

anoniem,nukevil: i already apologized to Evo for what happened 2 resets ago. that pact was not meant to be used that way. i believe qzjul has posted my personal apology to you guys from earlier this reset. if you want i can make it public here if you want. we weren't even supposed to hit Evo, i can show you the LaF council forum post on what that red alert was about. when i was busy and not active for 2 weeks cuz of rl fluff, SS switched targets to Evo without me knowing.

last reset i definitely have no gripes about. it happened after these logs and you guys were allowing KJ to run the show still, so what was done had to be done. i also warned qzjul last reset before hitting you guys that i saw logs of kj that were disturbing and would undermine any long term laf/evo peace and nothing was done, hence why you were hit last reset.

Quick question; do you honestly believe that had LaF not hit Evo 2 resets ago that KJ would have had any motive to take part in the chats between Arsenal and Makinso? I mean, apologies aside and all, LaF had broken a uNAP and FSed a netgaining alliance for no reason, other than allegedly to make that netgaining alliance lose members over a triple crown.

I suspect that had LaF left Evo alone, Evo would have netgained that reset and last reset. Hell, I didn't know about the EVO/SOL/MD logs until Son Goku posted them in the war dec. I'm not too sure about what would have happened with MD/SOL, but I'm pretty sure that LaF would have far more support from the community against MD/SOL had they not hit Evo 2 resets ago.

who wants to be Don for next reset
Don Hanlong {Don}
Alliance: LaF
Server: Earth Council
Divison: Team Dish Out The Candy
Posts: 5843

Sep 30, 2011 12:29 PM
i need a break from it.. not spending as much time as the position requires

Don Hanlong {Don}
Alliance: LaF
Server: Earth Council
Divison: Team Dish Out The Candy
Posts: 5843

Sep 30, 2011 12:32 PM
i probably will spend no more than 10 minutes a day next reset on this game.

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this is when i had no time cuz of RL issues. notice how this is right before the first Evo/LaF war. as you have guessed, SS decided to take over temporarily as interim Don.

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pacts for next reset
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pacts for next reset
Don SolidSnake {GF}
Alliance: LaF
Server: Earth Council
Divison: Team PG
Posts: 6067

Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM

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as you can see after i made that post SS decided to take over.

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SOL won't pact us
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SOL won't pact us
Don Hanlong {Don}
Alliance: LaF
Server: Earth Council
Divison: Team Dish Out The Candy
Posts: 5843

Oct 05, 2011 11:02 PM
i just got the word,

we need to plan around this

Don Hanlong {Don}
Alliance: LaF
Server: Earth Council
Divison: Team Dish Out The Candy
Posts: 5843

Oct 06, 2011 12:22 AM
we can't ignore SOL if they dont pact us

looking for other options but it looks like we might be stuck fighting sol

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as you can see i was set on fighting SOL.

but SS decided to hit Evo instead against my wishes while i was extremely busy with rl.

nukevil: yes that's why i said i forgave evo's actions because i realized we wronged them first and it was only natural for them to do this and i hope we can both get past these events in the right way. i told qzjul this personally also.

i already resolved my issues with qzjul (and hopefully with evo).

i want to know exactly what's up with MD/SOL's minds now in doing this, especially MD especially how we were FDP and fought by side by side for the past few resets. i didn't realize a 6 year grudge trumps that.

The LaF/Evo pact on the first set was a pact in defense of netgainers vs sol, you decided to pact sol, breaking the terms of the pact.

If you didnt want to be fs'd you shouldnt have tried to play both sides, either sign a regular pact as you are unwilling to defend anyone against sol, or dont pact sol, those were the options, you decided to attempt to create a third option of pretend to be willing to defend people against sol, and then pact sol, so that you were unable to regardless and it got you killed.

As much as evo whine, its their own actions that got them tag killed twice. It was a legitimate pact void by the terms of the pact, no matter how much you try and whine otherwise.