No I'm good. I was talked out of it. Just stating marshal sucks as FA. Which is what hellrush did stat in his vast amount of posts in this thread

Read the war forum in FFA again Marshal.



Like I said beef you have with me. Where did I say beef I had with you??

My beef with you started the min you made those Helltard countries. Before that my beef was with EVO as a whole.

Know please accept yourself as a cyber bully and get your act together.

You call him bully all while bullying his tag mates, hypocritical much???

I have never bullied EVO. I am just standing up to the school Yard bullies(EVO)

What do you call this?


Hypocrite

Like it says stopping the bullies that are EVO

Essentially might makes right. In FFA, it's unwise to kill untags unless you do it all at once so they can't respond, and extremely stupid to farm them as you should get suicided for it. On 1a, untags are never killed, just farmed, hence also extremely stupid. There are no "rights" involved other than the fact it is a losing strategy to hit untags regardless of server

Marshal on his last girlfriend:

"We didn't break up, she got a restraining order so I stopped seeing her"

What about farming restarts of a clan at war???

Just remember EVO farming me was when I was a restart in a war.

1 person tags might as well be untagged.

So beyond farming your untagged war restart, what other evidence is there that Evo are the bullies of A1?

Seems insulting to proper warmongers that a bunch of treehuggers are being singled out for being the baddest guys in school.

😂😂😂 +1

It’s dumb but, as a server, are the grudge actions of hellrush tolerable? The goal is to make this game unenjoyable for the players of Evo until they disband - does this benefit this game and community?

Regardless of your views of Evo and/or Marshal, it’s unlikely to do anything more than make a shrinking player base shrink faster. Any new players are unlikely to stick around if one disgruntled player can lone wolf it and ruin a game for a whole tag until they quit.

Hitting untags in 1A might be stupid but letting a single untagged player drive away a whole tag is dumber.

Your just a troll making problems go away.

FYI EVO made an agreement to CF. Then broke it when it fit them best to do so.

why would evo, or any clan really, make an agreement to CF an untag?

Everyone is so bored they entertain Hellrush which in turn gives him energy to keep going on.

News flash he is the best troll in history and he is only doing all this for his own entertainment you pawns!

Just kill him in game and say nothing he will get bored.

Like they do clans. So they can have peace. Thing is peace goes 2 ways something EVO hasn’t come to understand.

Not really. They’re inconvenient questions for you because the answers don’t work out in your favour.

You say that Evo farmed your war restart. What war were you fighting and which tag were you in at the time?

🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

Is there a reason that almost every thread contains the Marshal and Hellrush drama

Cuz llama?

Because hellrushes mom went to college

*Hellrush's

SOlution.

Hellrush and Marshall settle this in a 1 on 1 next set in FFA. Settle your dispute there, and have it all be said and done.
No innocents get harmed in this, and the rest of the earth community can have peace.

I tried last FFA he said no. Then made the Helltard Countries

LaF and I was a restart. Then EVO the bullies they are decide to farm Restarts that cant hit them back Because we aren’t tagged others won’t be able to make the retals for us. Guess what they bullied the wrong restarts and became cry babies.

Yes because people are starting to realize how much of a bully Marshal is.

Im aware. Im doing it for MY own entertainment too though ;)

Do you know how many clans out there farm untagged restarts? It happens, we get over it, we retag and get back to war. The question here in this statement is: Why were you untagged out of protection?

Thank you

Because apparently being untagged in alliance you have rights and in FFA you don't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

so let me get this right,

its wrong of evo to farm a restart thats untagged, but its ok for you to farm rage just before it?

Of course. The rules and conventions don't apply to him...

For some reason Rage was reading untagged.

So ignoring the fact that your restart country came out of protection untagged (seems careless as you’re very likely aware you probably wouldn’t have been farmed had you been tagged up)...


... You were a LaF restart and was hit by an Evo member - did LaF intervene on your behalf? Was there any discussion regarding the farming of your restart between LaF and Evo? If not, why not?

Unless your EVO why do you even give a fluff. Has nothing to do with you.

There’s no need to be defensive - why didn’t LaF intervene on your behalf?

They did at a point like always EVO screwed that up.

How is it that a tag like LaF, with six times the players of Evo, can seek reps for the farming of your untagged country and come away with nothing?

Either they’re scared of a bunch of netters or they literally didn’t see your farming as being worthy of threatening the tinier tag over.

Evo not engaging FAs or paying reps is what caused Post Script to kill a bunch of their countries last reset. They’re a bunch of netters too and Evo never even put up a fight. That “war” was over and done with before most knew it was even happening.

So why did LaF drop the ball in seeking fair compensation for your untags lost land? Did they not care? Do they have an internal policy that states that untags don’t get protection from their tag?

Why are they not technically following this up for you even now, especially if Evo have supposedly “screwed up” as you claim?

At no point was I asked to intervene and at no point was I compelled to intervene with a situation that seemed to have been caused by the lack of this clause in Evo's grabbing rules:

"LaF members should be responsible for their actions. If you farm a country 5 times, and get BRed back for it, it is not LaF's fault. Why should other members help to kill a target that causes your country trouble when clearly the trouble could have been avoided in the first place if you attacked 3 countries twice instead of 1 country five times?

This may seem like a pretty bad policy, but it makes members become a more cautious player. Observe who you grab. Check who you grab. Don't make enemies. As a whole, this makes LaF a much better netgaining alliance that has less problems to deal with, and which spends almost no turns killing any enemies and suiciders."

Despite this we spend most turns of anyone killing suiciders and everyone of them are unprovoked.

Also are you suggesting that we seek reps for you hitting an untagged? Are you for real? Even if I learned of it immediatly and not two weeks after I wouldnt have the balls to do that. That would be BULLYING for sure.

Evo also screwed up two sets in a row letting Rick grow big inside Evo and then detag and suicide LaF (and PS) and we didn't seek compensation then either, even tho I talked to marshal about it. The reason I didnt bring up reps is because I knew I would never get it, and I don't care enough to threaten war over it as I dont think that would solve the situation faster.

I was really surprised that Marshal let Rick back into Evo after he suicided us and PS last set and I was sure he had been forced to try and find a new home. At least I was told by marshal it wont happen again from Evo.
Why should I push Evo or anyone around just because LaF is bigger? PS hitting Evo last set didnt teach Marshal anything. Would be the same if we hit them; just a bunch of innocent players getting hit because marshal screwed up.

That doesn’t seem like bad policy at all. It encourages members to take responsibility for their actions and to not expect the team to shelter their poor behaviour. Sounds pretty sound to me.

My key takeaway here, however, is that hellrush seems to have decided not to seek the help of the tag he was in at the time (although untagged) to deal with Evo farming him.

So he was essentially acting as a lone wolf for the rest of the set he’d been farmed in, and then for the whole of the next set after deciding to hide as an untagged and then blindside Evo in retaliation for the set before.

Now he’s taken a set off to net under the protection of a proper tag again (whether that’s LaF or not doesn’t matter, what’s clear is that he didn’t want to risk being an untagged again). With that out of his system, he wants to start up again next set with an issue three sets behind.

There’s definitely a baby crying somewhere out here but it doesn’t sound like it’s Evo.

Not at all, I honestly wouldn’t presume to tell you what to do regarding your alliance and its relations with others. In fact, saying I’m impressed with your perspective in this post is hardly worth anything as I’m a nobody in this game. But, for whatever it might be worth, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said and your rationale for the decisions you came to are more than fair and reasonable.

I’m literally asking hellrush about LaF as a way of trying to understand why he could get farmed and see his only way of compensation be suiciding and committing to attacking Evo until they decide to disband. I mean no disrespect to LaF by asking of them.

Beats me. I think this situation is a bit sad and I just want everyone to get along but I think both parties are so far apart that its not on the map.

I was in Evolution, in a leadership position, when it was first created as a merger between RED and Un4given and I have a lot of respect for Yank, QZ, EDge and also KingJohn who were all apart of that merger and has been part of evolution long after I quit for the most part. I will always have a soft spot for Evo. That said while I dont agree with his methods I can see that neither party is attempting to solve this and it was indeed true that Derrick tried to work out a peace got them to agree on a cease fire that someone in Evolution then broke. I dont know if that was Marshal or if it was just some member who didnt know better, but the hits are there and it seems to me if those hits didnt happen this would have all blown over.

Even after those hits Im sure that another approach could have been used to try to solve it than slamming eachothers with insults on the forum and ingame.

Bromance, I think Gerd was responding to Hellrush claiming LaF did speak to EVO and EVO didn't listen. When in fact apparently no one at LaF spoke to EVO and why would they?

A good communication is effective no matter what happens. Horrible communication leads to this mess, or just being plain stubborn. I am going with the later as I have had to deal with Hellrush in FA talks before. And if it isn't his way then there is no way.
Bit here is my example of being in LaF and dealing with EVO.
galleri, one set was tagged EVO. galleri was bot grabbing this one fine day and entered a typo. galleri is dumbass. galleri had seen her huge grab and thought "daammmmnnnn, Daniel" " then oh fluff, that is the wrong country". galleri even commented on irc she typo'd. galleri thus reached out to the country (Rick), Marshal and gains. While Marshal seems to only speak with cuss words at times....it is whatever. galleri is the one that messed up. Either way in the long run Rick and galleri worked it out, he got back what he should per pact, and honestly gains nor Gerdler never had to be involved.
The moral of the story......own up to your crap, do it with humility and move on.
This is beyond 5th grade elementary.

I disagree that communication would have helped this situation.

Hellrush is bored and used the 'breaking of the agreement' as a reason to go on a crusade against Evo as there is no evidence that Evo leadership directed it.

This whole deal is a sham. Hellrush isn't so mentally deficient that he actually believes playing untagged will ever result in legitimate game play on a clan based server. This is demonstrated by him joining LaF to 'netgain' so that he can reap the benefits of the tag protection => ironic isn't it? We should be thanking LaF for letting him in the tag to protect the server from him if for only one set! Hellrush what do you think LaF will do to you if you hit someone from their tag?

No one in this game takes him serous (other than the threat of sucide).

Furthermore the incompetence of Hellrush is inconceivable. He thought that iMag actually did anything to him which he tried, and I do stress the word tried, to use that as moral justification to use spy ops against us for no reason -- BTW good job at failing ops on someone with almost 0 SPAL that takes skill -- when in fact HE HIT iMag AND iMAG NEVER EVEN HIT HIM BACK in the set that he claims they bullied him. He didn't check the news apparently ON HIS OWN COUNTRY.

After such a blunder (due to his complete lack of memory) I convinced him to back off iMag however it still stands that he didn't know what he was talking about.

He plays solo on a clan server to fluff with people with little to no justification. Maybe people who don't play FFA should play FFA to do the same thing to him there as he does here?

And to end this post:

Hellrush10/21/2019
I hate to say it but I fluffed up
I am an idiot

Hellrush10/21/2019
Alliance (1839) country #726 I knew I same Imag in my news but I screwed up.
Saw Imag*
Your right I was the aggressor this time sorry

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https://www.eestats.com/...iance/oldcountry/1839/726

Imag can thank you IF they get hit next set.

As my final note here. Why haven’t I targeted others in FFA like EVO in Alliance. FFA I have 16 countries that can do a lot more damage.

I’ll answer that no one as targeted me like EVO has bullied me in Alliance.

I guess you can but if so you might not ever get to net gain in FFA again.