Mercs is prepared to offer a basic DNH (do not hit) pact for all one-man clans that contact us. You can catch me in this thread, through in-forum messaging, or on irc.earthempires.com #mercs

Not to piggy-back off of you Azz! However KSM would like to extend the same invitation as well and is prepared the offer same DNH (do not hit) pact for all one-man clans that contact myself. You can catch me in through the FFAT forums via PM. Or our IRC channel. irc.eu.gamesurge.net #KSM

Dont do it. Kill 1 man tags because you are affraid of destocking coutnries hitting you!

What Ketchup Said

ESD has long had a policy of pacting small and one-man tags provided that they:

A)Declare themselves

and

B)Abide by the rules and etiquette of the server.


I don't see a problem with this. If One Man gets a DNH with ESD and then farms or suicides Mercs for example, they are the persona non grata under that tag for the rest of the set and "special rules" will apply to any hit done on ESD.

I want new players to stick around. The problem is that too many "not new players" are abusing the good will of the server. Has to be dealt with.

I think that tag f3ar looks suspicious we should kill it>>It has no NAME but just a tag.

ESD ESD 160
f3ar 16
Kaiser Schwarzmarkt KSM 80


YOU THINK FEARVENDOR WOULD MIND??? :)


NOT

U know that this won't stop the suiciders, we have had that policy for 8 resets and we get hit every reset

If a one man tag proves themselves to be neutral and not in it to harm the other alliances on the server than let them be?

There are worse things that can happen to an alliance then random suicides. You could have peeps using your tag to suicide from. Giving your FA nightmares and cold sweats at night because they do not know when or where the next Fk'up is coming from. Ultimately jacking with your alliance's ability to pact the next reset and causing a lot of internal strife, because members truly no longer feel safe as other major alliances begin to see your alliance as a potential problem...

Currently I run single because I simply do not have the time to dedicate to an alliance. I am not recruiting at the moment because I also do not have the time to be dealing with a second person screwing with some alliance they have a beef with for their own enjoyment.

If and when I have the time to take on the responsibility for other members then I may start recruiting. If the risk is too high that peeps would use my Tag to suicide from; (been there done that) then I will join an Alliance and gladly give them my time.

Then we have server politics, which at the moment seem to be conducive to bringing and retaining players who like myself may not have the time to dedicate to an alliance. I am hoping this political atmosphere does not change for the worse.

as said on tag thread

Quebec alliance (QC) has a mid-reset war arrangment with The Avengers. 10 vs 10. i will not hit tagged countries and i will use QCGuard tagged countries to kill suiciders on QC tag and police our war.

If you have strong FA, and dedicated leaders willing to pay reps for their mistakes, that will not affect your ability to pact etc. TKO has always given a place to new people, yes it screwed them over at times, but overall leaders were willing to sacrifice themselves to give people opportunities and it led to many great recruits from outside the inner circle, and no major FA issues that couldnt be handled.

Strong FA skills are always a plus, but it is still added and unnecessary aggravation. Clan size also plays a role in diplomatic success in many such cases. I have been on the side of the table explaining how the actions of one or two new members does not represent the alliance. have also sacrificed my own country more than once to protect members. As said been there done that.

Actually the current server atmosphere is much better toward small tags. If anything I would say suiciders really do not have a leg to stand on when trying to justify their actions. But to reverse the small tag protection policies for the actions of a few would be bad from my perspective.

tigress say that when u have ur whole string killed off by a 3 man tag just as u have finished landtrading and had just started stocking just because they felt like it.

TKO as a whole rarely attacks outside the tag yet we are hit by more suiciders then anyone most resets.

so lets have a look at the stats

742 countries killed by TKO in the last 3 resets almost all of them suiciders

we have lost 80 in that time, almost every reset for the last 7 rounds at least 3 of our top 10 countries have been killed , and generally by 1 man tags.

not saying this is a good idea but it is justified, this would have been done resets ago, but pang asked us not to, and since then suiciding has gotten worse, netting while having to kill 446 countries in one set is not fun.

based on your numbers about 15 peeps per reset suicide on TKO.

742/16 = 46.375 / 3 = 15.458

That is a lot.

How much of the 742 is preemptive, which would cause someone to seek a measure of justice after logging into a dead string.

i.e. collateral damage.

How much of it is someone getting frustrated for being hit, perhaps not by TKO, but still being hit by countries well out of their range. It is very easy to bully small tags, with RoRs, or just plain farming, even if they had every intention of playing peacefully.


If TKO is the dedicated kill squad taking out those who finally pop a fuse, then it may very well be, in knowing they will be killed by TKO they go after TKO vs. those who aggravated them.

I am not condoning the action, just trying to make sense out of it. With the various alliance providing pacts to one man tags, there really is no reason a person cannot simply net peacefully on the server. Either we have a select few actively trying to get a reversal in policy, or there is another dynamic at work here.

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I play solo because I feel that unless I can be an active member when needed then I should not be asking for Tag protection. I also understand a risk is taken wherein I login to a dead string. That is just a part of what it means to play solo.

well TKO and PAN can't net peacefully no matter what we do.


collateral damage?? if they can kill top 10 countries no one is out of their range, so that point is moot

as for a dedicated kill squad, our kill squad is a one man kill squad, but in the name of speed and limiting damage 3-5 other step in to kill when suiciders hit

sounds very much like a handful trying to get policy changes in place.

What if one man tags earn their DNH status by participating in kill runs on suiciders?

One man tags earn their DNH by contacting alliances, that all they have to do.

TKO gets it much worse than we do, but Warster's right. We have issues every set with people attacking us randomly. I'll be curious this set, because we seem to be bigger than TKO so far, but TKO has sort of been the symbol of land-trading netgaining for awhile due to their large countries.

Not sure how these suiciders pick their targets, whether it's vendettas against specific players or just going after whichever clan they feel is doing the best.

But yeah, I don't think any of the big clans expect the 1-man tags to participate in the kill runs. Just let us know who you are. Making your identity known makes you accountable. If you were to start suiciding, then we'd know who to watch for and if you came back next set, you'd be dead quickly.

Just letting us know who you are pretty much prevents most of the suspicion coming your way.

That sounds very fair, either way as time permits if you need hits against a suicider just ping me. it is only fair that those who can make a statement to keep the server fun for all involved.

Way to Go, Azz Kikr. An excellent Policy, Brother!