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May 1st 2011, 17:28:56

Post was a troll, but none the less LCN/ICNs CS was half the Sol FS in attacks and kills.

The 50% assumption wouldn't hold true for other clans, and the Imag 100% assumption probably doesn't hold true.

ICN/LCN didn't get the fs, but Imag did. My stats were as random as everyone elses but probably 100% more accurate given the current situation though thats based on the current stats.

If you were to work backwards, its approximate true as well, if you doubled ICN/LCNs attacks and added Imags, its roughly equal to Sols attacks.

One would predict that ICN/LCN/Imag would start closing the gap as the power of the FS wears out.
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May 1st 2011, 18:47:18

iButjke, prior to SOL's FS, ICN/LCN/IMAG had 50% more countries than SOL. SOL FS'd and lowered that total to 30%. iScode wants to use that 30% figure as the starting total advantage for this war. After SOL lowered the advantage to 30%, LCN/ICN/IMAG FS/CS'd, while SOL was finished. Therefore we can look at this one of two ways:
SOL got the FS and the other clans had a 50% advantage, or the other clans got the FS and had a 30% advantage.

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May 1st 2011, 19:07:49

Klown, grats on making an effort to spell my name incorrectly. You win this round.

You are saying that SoL reduced the country advantage of iMag/LCN/ICN to 30% from the starting 50% in the FS. That still leaves SoL with stored turns unlike LCN/ICN.

You are then saying that the CS which was pretty much ad-hoc counts as the FS at these new numbers. Your statement is completely flawed. LCN and ICN were not prepared for the war and did not have stored turns thus the CS was not as effective as a fully stored turns FS would be.

At the very best you can say that it is equivalent of SoL and iMag/LCN/ICN doing a mutual FS with iMag LCN ICN having a 30% country advantage. Even that is not true because of SoL having stored turns.

I have to agree with Evolution here that your post was a clear trolling attempt.

Evolution, with that argument I can accept LCN ICN doing a 50% of a FS (even though equalizing a FS like that is simplifying things to the fullest since there are so many factors involved). However, saying 'iMag got the FS' is saying 'all FSes are the same'. iMag was not fully ready for war and although that is not an excuse for iMag it is something you want to account for if your goal is to make a realistic model of relative powers. Of course if you are simply trolling then there is no such need.

Had iMag planned to FS SoL at that time then I could accept you saying 'iMag got the FS' but iMag did not plan such a thing. The iMag attack on SoL was a reaction to SoLs attack on LCN and ICN and as such was inherently weaker than it would have been if it was a pre-planned thing. It is in fact the equivalent of SoL FSing all three clans but making no attacks on iMag. It is true that iMag had slightly more stored turns than LCN and ICN but not nearly fully stored as SoL (or any other clan doing a real FS) had.

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May 1st 2011, 21:48:07

ibujke, you make too much sense for a iMager... ;-)
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May 1st 2011, 23:32:17

klown vs imag == very difficult to decide who is stupider
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This guy is destroying the U.S. Dollars position as the preferred exchange for international trade. The Chinese Ruan is going to replace it soon, then the U.S. will not have control of the IMF

Klown Game profile

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May 1st 2011, 23:39:29

Originally posted by Pontius Pirate:
klown vs imag == very difficult to decide who is stupider


iMag.

Strikey Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 0:03:13

i am senceing a lot of imag hate.

*sage nods*

lol

ld Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 0:25:55

update?

Jiman Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 0:30:09

No reason to flame each other blatantly -_-

I want updated warstats!

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May 2nd 2011, 0:36:34

derp
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May 2nd 2011, 1:03:50

I want an update!

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May 2nd 2011, 1:08:05

Dragun Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 1:19:58

kaboom

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May 2nd 2011, 1:20:32

got killed when i was at my brothers bachelor party......weaksauce

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May 2nd 2011, 5:44:53

lessons to learn, never attend any party, while in the middle of war :P

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May 2nd 2011, 5:48:31

:D nice advice

Wu Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 10:20:18

It doesn't matter what the stats are...
SOL declares moral victory!

Evolution Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 11:55:41

Originally posted by ibujke:
The iMag attack on SoL was a reaction to SoLs attack on LCN and ICN and as such was inherently weaker than it would have been if it was a pre-planned thing.


Don't Imag claim to be a war clan though, how can you be unprepared?, if you look at the statistics for the past decade, probability of war starting increases exponentially after day 20 (2 month resets) or day 30 (3 month resets).

Most war clans are prepared to decent degree by this stage regardless of whats going on. :/ I don't get it.
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ibujke Game profile

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May 2nd 2011, 12:27:29

Originally posted by Evolution:


Most war clans are prepared to decent degree by this stage regardless of whats going on.


You answered yourself. To a decent degree, not fully.

Or are you saying that SoL is always fully ready for war regardless of if it gets FSed or is doing the FSing?

Soviet Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 2:59:33

Side A Att Def HPM HPD Kills HPK
LCNostra 5,239 7,521 99 873 19 276
iMagNum 4,877 4,767 128 813 13 375
ICNxGARY 2,295 2,887 72 383 7 328
Totals: 12,411 15,175 101 2069 39 318

Side B Att Def HPM HPD Kills HPK
SOLdiers 15,175 12,411 185 2529 55 276
Totals: 15,175 12,411 185 2529 55 276
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Jiman Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 3:00:47

Having fun killing restarts?

Soviet Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 3:12:32

05/03/2011 01:43:12 GT TreeMaker II (#836) (LCNostra) land of oz (#168) (SOLdiers) GS 1 Civs / 0 Food Kill

Networth: $8,351,409
Land: 18,134 Acres
Attacks (24/72/All): 32/89/277
Defends (24/72/All): 275/275/277

What was that?
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May 3rd 2011, 3:16:58

lol
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Jiman Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 3:29:03

Originally posted by Soviet:
05/03/2011 01:43:12 GT TreeMaker II (#836) (LCNostra) land of oz (#168) (SOLdiers) GS 1 Civs / 0 Food Kill

Networth: $8,351,409
Land: 18,134 Acres
Attacks (24/72/All): 32/89/277
Defends (24/72/All): 275/275/277

What was that?

Never said you were not killing any originals, but you are killing mostly restarts.


Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by Jiman:
Having fun killing restarts?


That quote could come back to bite you real hard by the end of this war.

It could, but not right now.

Jiman Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 3:50:25

When I said mostly, it was meant as the majority of what I have observed. In no way is that a unbiased view point.

An unbiased definition would be above 51% of the kills of the real numbers, and not just what I observed.


O and dont kill me while im sleeping ><

Jiman Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 4:04:02

Originally posted by iScode:
you said it as a fact, not an observation. You could of said "I see you are mostly killing restarts" and I wouldnt have had anything to pick on. But you said "you ARE killing mostly restarts" which is why I asked :).
True enough, thats why I answered to clarify myself.

but fair call, I think it is completely honourless to kill someone while they sleep, or if someone is out of the house.

I think both sides should implament a policy where we message the country first, confirm they are online and then proceed to kill it. That would be a true war of skill compared to most wars I reakon :).

Obvoiusly you CAN kill me when every you wish, but ya I do agree its honourless to kill someone while they sleep or not. Though, it is too bad that your scenario is an impossible achievment. In that sense of it being impossible, its not honourless.

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May 3rd 2011, 4:15:13

Originally posted by Jiman:
Having fun killing restarts?


Are you?


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Jiman Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 4:15:44

IScode, that would require a massive amount of participation.
What if alliance A wanted to kill a country of alliance B, but that country could not get online that night. Than the same country next the night comes and hits himself.

There would have to rules to avoid this... for example, you can only kill one country at a time, and only participating countrys during the start of the war event can be targeted.

No countrys will be able to to jump half way through the kill runs. If it doesnt appear at the start of the war chat, it sits out. The next day the country that did not participate can only attack so many times.

Jiman Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 4:23:48

O sorry for smashing on your idea. :(

Maybe it could happen on the team server. It would be much less difficult to have 10 people on a time vs 100+.

GearHead Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 9:15:03

Oh Jiman, causing trouble everywhere you go I see :P

Joker Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 11:36:31

Originally posted by dagga:
No trolling from SOL in this thread.

imag are crap.
ICN seem to just not care.
LCN are always a solid alliance.

Facts.




.......LMAO.........LMAO again

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May 3rd 2011, 13:20:57

Jiman, you start a war then rant.

epic.

Evolution Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 14:57:17

Originally posted by ibujke:
Originally posted by Evolution:


Most war clans are prepared to decent degree by this stage regardless of whats going on.


You answered yourself. To a decent degree, not fully.

Or are you saying that SoL is always fully ready for war regardless of if it gets FSed or is doing the FSing?


Gah you never heard of our long range strategic predictions.

Sol was born ready. By day 20? 80% ready regardless. If you are hit at day 10 or earlier at random then its forgivable.

Re; Only killing those online
Then everyone would have surprise chats and no body would be online till they had 120 turns. So basically Just have one chat every two days and dish out an FS class assault on a single country. LOL try walling that, no one will go online.
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Evolution Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 14:58:12

Btw LCN is doing a really good job.
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ibujke Game profile

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May 3rd 2011, 16:12:46

Originally posted by Evolution:


Gah you never heard of our long range strategic predictions.

Sol was born ready. By day 20? 80% ready regardless. If you are hit at day 10 or earlier at random then its forgivable.


So SoL doesn't care who gets the FS. I'll remember that.

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May 3rd 2011, 16:21:41

Yea I got to give LCN probs very nice.

tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
LCNostra 5420 20 271 7724 25 309

Soviet Game profile

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May 4th 2011, 5:58:40


Side A Att Def HPM HPD Kills HPK
LCNostra 5,917 7,760 112 845 22 269
iMagNum 5,395 5,962 142 771 14 385
ICNxGARY 2,806 3,232 88 401 7 401
Totals: 14,118 16,954 115 2017 43 328

Side B Att Def HPM HPD Kills HPK
SOLdiers 16,954 14,118 207 2422 60 283
Totals: 16,954 14,118 207 2422 60 283

Edited By: qzjul on May 5th 2011, 2:55:59
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Erian Game profile

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May 4th 2011, 9:05:57

What's the remaining nw's? Last time I looked it seemed like SOL was decisively in the lead in breakers.

Evolution Game profile

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May 4th 2011, 10:20:52

Sol has fallen behind due to the opposing sides large country advantage and LCNs good performance. It's great to see LCN has maintained their ability to war.
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May 4th 2011, 10:35:39

Of course LCN is still fantastic at warring... especially SOL considering their experience... ;-)

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May 4th 2011, 15:27:25

looks like even tnw

with anw advantage for one side versus turns and total land for the other

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May 4th 2011, 15:53:29

meh
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Soviet Game profile

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May 4th 2011, 15:56:21


Current Stats
Clan Name Mems TNW ANW Land ALand
LCNostra 47 $145,958,363 $3,105,497 291,082 6,193
ICNxGARY 30 $87,198,978 $2,906,632 186,080 6,202
iMagNum 29 $69,932,604 $2,411,469 157,689 5,437
Totals: 106 $303,089,945 $2,807,866 634,851 5,944

Clan Name Mems TNW ANW Land ALand
SOLdiers 68 $305,655,312 $4,494,931 506,598 7,449
Totals: 68 $305,655,312 $4,494,931 506,598 7,449

Edited By: qzjul on May 5th 2011, 2:34:40
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May 5th 2011, 0:56:32

it is a good one, I'm loving it, glad you guys rallied back, I didn't want you guys to just lay down and take it.
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Jiman Game profile

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May 5th 2011, 1:43:13

iScode, your cheating on me?!?! Is this because I grabbed you so many times last night?!

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May 5th 2011, 1:51:54

It's not my fault I make the iScodes wanna scream... check check it uh..
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Junky Game profile

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May 5th 2011, 2:13:39

that hurts iScode... erm you should know I'm the crazy Jealious type.... I'm gonna have to key/destroy/ and then Kill your countries.... prefferably in that order.
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qzjul Game profile

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May 5th 2011, 2:35:38

/me makes them readable
Finally did the signature thing.

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May 5th 2011, 2:55:25

blah... fine... use pre and /pre inside [] btw
Finally did the signature thing.

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May 5th 2011, 2:56:13

better? :)
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