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May 12th 2011, 12:22:34

donny dude likes to talk to himself... lol

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May 12th 2011, 12:33:58

hmmmm lets see
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Popcom Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 13:13:18

really donny?
your deff of "cant stay out of our news" is 1 hit?...

guess its yours then eh? lol
also, yes, it has started wars before. but NBK doesn't care. we reiterate for the 1000x this set. get defense to protect your land. if u don't, u make a really nice target and we may LG you.
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May 12th 2011, 13:20:21

FS them etc
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May 12th 2011, 13:20:25


Poppy pretty much hit the nail right on the head... Again!

Donny... Who's news are we in?
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Primeval Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 13:30:29

Landgrabs Donny? Come now.

Close the laptop and drive to the store for some fresh kobeerz.

Chaoswind Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 14:20:58

Deep in DR... worked just fine for that CC guy that grabbed it

Targets need to be out of DR


NBK has an strong policy against farming and self farming, the only thing they can do is find low defense mofos and teach them to get a at least a ratio of 70 Turrets per acre... isn't that hard really :P


actually the formula would be
Land * (0.7*(Land*0.04) = Turrets :)
^ Is the best way to ensure no one is going to mess with you :p

Edited By: Chaoswind on May 12th 2011, 14:28:19
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Bigwiggle Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:04:18

I'm pushing 300 Turrets per acre and your phobia seems to enjoy teaching me lessons as well .. you guys need to admit that you can easily break a country no matter how realistically it's defended. At this point in the set it's not too hard to buy up 15 million jets.. Will this guy finish well? No. Will he cause other not too? Sure.

I'm not whining about being hit, that's your right. Just don't preach "defend your land"
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Chaoswind Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:24:31

Your defense needs to grow the fatter you are:

Land * (0.7(Land*0.04)) =
30000 * (0.7(Land*0.04)) = 30000 * (0.7(1200)) = 30000 * 840 = 25,200,000

:P

That is to ensure you won't be hit as much, as hitting a 26M jets break country to gain land is a waste, now the insensitive of stock may make the hit worth it, but normally it isn't and most will just move on :P

And you wanted a number that would make all attackers look the other way... such a number of turrets are a pain in the ass to upkeep, but is the price to pay if you don't want to get hit
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Rockman Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:24:56

Offensive allies + planned strike bonus = OP

15m jets with those 50% and 75% bonuses (assuming each ally has the same size army as you) can break someone with 25m turrets and 2 def allies each with 25m turrets (ignoring what weapons tech can do, because it benefits offense and defense equally).

Chaoswind Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:27:56

Rockman, who is going to waste +15M jets + Oil to steal 6000 Acres?

The amount of jets that will die make it a stupid grab, so everyone will move on and find someone easier... and that is the goal right there

Edited By: Chaoswind on May 12th 2011, 16:30:34
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Rockman Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:33:56

Chaoswind - thats a very very weird way to write your equation, its like you've never taken Algebra.

Just call it Land^2 * 0.028
Use the fact that multiplication is associative.

Your equation also breaks down at large landsizes (in that it justifies any and every attack on a large country, regardless of their defense). A 100k acre country needs 280 million turrets? That ain't gonna happen. Until you come up with a *reasonable* equation, then you're just giving justification to the lame tactic of GSing countries into DR.

I'd love for the tactic of GSing yourself into DR to disappear, but as long as topfeeders demand an unreasonable amount of defense from large countries, that tactic will not go away.

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May 12th 2011, 16:36:30

Good point Chaos, I'll give you that there is an amount that will deter grabs and weighing the pros and cons it's probably worth getting there. Who knows with a few of you guys though, you likes my lands :P
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Rockman Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:37:45

Originally posted by Chaoswind:
Rockman, who is going to waste +15M jets + Oil to steal 6000 Acres?

The amount of jets that will die make it a stupid grab, so everyone will move on and find someone easier... and that is the goal right there



The guy from Salt who thought he was retalling me used 15m jets (if you count the troops and tanks he PSd) to hit me.

I'm interested to see whether or not FFA is serious when they say "get good defense or we'll grab you", or if the first part is a lie, and all they really mean is "we'll grab you regardless of your defense". So far, I've actually been pleasantly surprised, as it appears that FFA generally does genuinely respect countries with a good defense. But people haven't started dropping their stockpiles yet, and as novices who don't know what to do with 30m jets start appearing, thats when I am getting worried.

PapaSmurf Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 16:46:48

I was the one who 'retaled' you. And I would have never done that as just a LG, personally wouldn't be worth it too me. I was trying to maximize the retal.

Chaoswind Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 17:01:34

Originally posted by Rockman:
Chaoswind - thats a very very weird way to write your equation, its like you've never taken Algebra.

Just call it Land^2 * 0.028
Use the fact that multiplication is associative.

Your equation also breaks down at large landsizes (in that it justifies any and every attack on a large country, regardless of their defense). A 100k acre country needs 280 million turrets? That ain't gonna happen. Until you come up with a *reasonable* equation, then you're just giving justification to the lame tactic of GSing countries into DR.

I'd love for the tactic of GSing yourself into DR to disappear, but as long as topfeeders demand an unreasonable amount of defense from large countries, that tactic will not go away.


Sorry :p My brain is fluffed after long work shifts

and Bigwiggle pretty much nailed it, don't mind the formula as I was being half assed about it, you need to get the magic number that will make attackers look away, to find someone else, there isn't a magic number or formula

For example:

I have an NBK netter with 3M turrets and a PAN netter with 5M turrets as targets, both have equal land amounts... as such I am likely to hit NBK, unless the Pan guy has Stock on hand :)

There are also Psychological aspects like grudges, etc

In the end is a matter of not being a nice target :)
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May 12th 2011, 17:09:20

a guy with 15mil jets should hit a guy with 15mil turrets, 5 mil jets should hit at 5mil turrets etc.

15mil jets grabbing a guy with 5mil turrets is gonna get pwned on the retal, IMO the retaller should always end up with more land if he wasnt incredibly fat to begin with.

Maximum returns are in favor of the retaller unless the attacker is smart enough to hit someone WAAAY fatter or with close to the same NW as himself.

Primeval Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 17:17:46

Not this again

Chaoswind Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 17:18:08

I can PS 2 people with low defense as long as they both are in 2 different clans

For Example I could:

As a 10K country PS with 400K jets TKO
then PS with 250K jets PAN
and PS with 360K jets NBK


as a 10K acres country attacking people with +20K acres, my net gain would be extreme, much more if I hit countries with some stock, also creates some tension as the first one to retal would get optimal gains while the rest get less and less... a 15M jets country doesn't go an grab 1 country with 20M turrets :p

When you have those numbers of Jets, you go after stock more than land, and as such nailing different countries of different clans is optimal :p

at least is the way I used to roll :)
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galleri Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 17:31:28

Are you really fluffting me? 2 HITS?
*walks off*
I don't have time for crybabying.


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Pain Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 17:38:41

yea seriously. 2 hit and you had to make a thread donny?

stop being a tard. i should LG you just for fun :P
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Popcom Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 17:47:44

[quote poster=Donny; 9497; 165308]1 hit? your not too smart..

<Donny> PS - Ideophobia (#978) [NBK] -> 453 (#931) [473CC] 3201A
<Donny> PS - Geniophobia (#976) [NBK] -> Pilsen (#66) [473CC] 6684A
[/quote]

oooooooh, sorry 2 hits, kinda hard to find in our news when its so little.
better ready the missiles. cant let you be farmland or nothing.
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de1i Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 19:21:36

Aren't you guys DP/UNAPed :P

Pain Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 19:54:51

do yo not remember the thread that ford made about it and the fight him and galleri got into over wheter the are pacted this set or not?

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de1i Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 19:58:48

Like I'm going to read that bullfluff.

Pain Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 19:59:31

well the answer is no.
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Rockman Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:04:17

NBK wants to know how far they can push CC respecting NBK's wishes to have a netting set before CC snaps.

That's assuming the hits were premeditated. But actually, its just a semi-inactive NBK member who only logs in to his country to make grabs, and has let some of his countries go almost a week without him even logging into them. Its just one lame member in NBK not realizing that he's poking a bully with a stick, and it may hurt his whole alliance if he keeps going. On the bright side, he's probably not going to login to those countries for another week or so, so its unlikely he'll cause them any problems with CC until next week.

de1i Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:12:55

That string is numerous large grabs on a lot of alliances and has no stock at home. This is an example of hits done out of 'malice' I had talked about on another thread. Most of the other strings that have been aggressively grabbing at least have a stockpile, granted they'll only be finishing 40-50 million but at least it is something?

Popcom Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:18:22

never seen so much fluff over 2 legit landgrabs, wow.
retal, stfu, move on. god damn.
oh, and once again. 3m turrets on 45k land = fail.
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Rockman Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:19:04

Originally posted by de1i:
That string is numerous large grabs on a lot of alliances and has no stock at home. This is an example of hits done out of 'malice' I had talked about on another thread. Most of the other strings that have been aggressively grabbing at least have a stockpile, granted they'll only be finishing 40-50 million but at least it is something?


I agree with you. He's obviously not netgaining, even though NBK is, and he is jeopardizing their netting set with his hits on CC, although hitting Pan, TKO, or me, doesn't put NBK at risk at all, because we're all toothless netters this set.

kemo Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:19:07

Originally posted by galleri:
Are you really fluffting me? 2 HITS?
*walks off*
I don't have time for crybabying.


hey thats a turn on for some. i refer you to that 2 girls 1 cup video. well then again the fluff was being eatin
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kemo Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:20:34

Originally posted by Popcom:
never seen so much fluff over 2 legit landgrabs, wow.
retal, stfu, move on. god damn.
oh, and once again. 3m turrets on 45k land = fail.


yes you have. dig up some old posts when the monster grabs happend before :P
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Pain Game profile

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May 12th 2011, 20:21:12

regardless of what and why its still only 2 hits. a thread was not necessary. a simple FA contact would have worked but is still pointless over 2 landgrabs. granted 66 wont get his land back from that country no matter what he retals with. the issue here should be a topfeed, its too bad neither clan recognizes such so its a moot point.
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Dark Demon Game profile

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May 13th 2011, 2:09:47

aponic you have my contacts if you want to settle this properly.

Donny i have nothing to say to u
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May 13th 2011, 2:40:01

[quote poster=Rockman; 9497; 165455]NBK wants to know how far they can push CC respecting NBK's wishes to have a netting set before CC snaps.

WTF??

a guy in our clan does 2 hits and that is "pushing a clan" ??

troll elsewhere

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May 13th 2011, 3:11:53

You whine too much :P
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Sauron NBK Game profile

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May 13th 2011, 3:32:31

donny you should give it up and just join us already, cause you seem to have a hard on for us. I bet if I looked properly i would find 50 or so threads titled "NBK" that you started

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May 13th 2011, 3:56:53

pffft 2 hits??????

we get more then that from NBK every day lol

just retal, its not that hard
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