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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 10th 2011, 19:47:54

Delaying the Keystone decision is one of the best things you could have done for Canada.

I'm fairly certain the Pacific Gateway pipeline will be approved now, likely with expedition. So now instead of selling an extra 700k barrels a day to the US at the rock bottom north American crude prices, we will sell at international spot prices which are significantly higher.

So thank you for helping us recieve more bang for our barrels. This will help our fiscal position, and economy a lot more in the long run.

TheORKINMan

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Nov 10th 2011, 19:49:23

Who cares? When are you guys giving us a maple syrup pipeline.

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 10th 2011, 19:50:56

that will never happen, since quebec has regulations regarding the export of syrup, and 80% of all maple syrup is produced in Quebec (My friend from highschool owns a maple company and I used to work for him, so I know about these issues too!)

Trife

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Nov 10th 2011, 19:52:00

thank you for being our hat, canada

Sir Balin

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Nov 10th 2011, 19:56:46

lol trife

H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 10th 2011, 19:57:51

We like to think of it as the US being our shoes, keeping our feet warm and all.

Detmer

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Nov 10th 2011, 20:03:30

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

We like to think of it as the US being our shoes, keeping our feet warm and all.

I see what you did there...

TGD

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Nov 10th 2011, 20:50:58

NO!!!

We American's need our maple syrup!

I believe it is time OWS went to the White House and Occupy it!

AMERICA IT IS TIME WE TAKE OVER AND CONQUER QUEBEC!

LET THE GOV'T KNOW WE WON'T STAND FOR A SYRUP SHORTAGE! :D

Dibs Ludicrous

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Nov 10th 2011, 20:56:22

thank China for the time being, but they're outlawing incandescent lights soon.

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 10th 2011, 20:57:43

You can still get their syrup, just not their good stuff.

Their regulations prohibit the export of their higher quality syrups, they can still export the junk stuff.

For the high quality stuff you'll have to either travel to Canada to get it, or buy it from a producer from Ontario or Vermont (the only other places where any significant producer occurs).

trumper

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Nov 10th 2011, 21:00:24

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

Or invade.

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Nov 10th 2011, 21:02:05

we'll just burn it all:P

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Dibs Ludicrous

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Nov 10th 2011, 21:04:15

no need to invade, just make them add 10 cases of syruppily delicous to their pot shipments...

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Nov 10th 2011, 21:30:04

don't get h4 started on syrup... he will own your with his maple knowledge. I think he's only a leafs fan because they come from the maple tree.

I absolutely agree -- let's sell our oil to Asia. We should be expanding our port facilities on the west coast anyway (and I am told we already are). We have every incentive to start selling more energy to Asia and less to the states. The states has every incentive to get our crude down to their refineries, yet they are blocking it.

Not to mention, as a long-term customer, Asia will likely be a better market than the USA. The US is going to need to get off hydrocarbons at SOME point. That will happen far before Asia does.

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Oceana

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Nov 10th 2011, 21:36:14

Yes, we need to burn Maple teees to heat our homes

Dibs Ludicrous

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Nov 10th 2011, 21:44:25

yep, i agree with Pang, y'all should burn off every drop of oil as soon as possible.

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SirSepher

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Nov 10th 2011, 22:25:03

Burning maples actually does keep the house nice and toasty... Hardwood FTW! ... Only when it's old and dying though. It makes me sad to see Maples cut too young.

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 10th 2011, 22:36:43

There is both hardwood and softwood maple

Havoc

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Nov 10th 2011, 22:52:09

My dad makes our own maple syrup on our property, self-sufficiency people!

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Dibs Ludicrous

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:01:30

the trees make the syrup. your dad just taps them over and over. probably installed a spigot so he just has to turn a knob.

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:05:54

ok it's a syrup thread now.

we should learn the maple secrets from the Quebec folks to make our own high-quality syrup! I already know a guy who owns a maple farm too (do we all know people who own maple farms?)

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Havoc

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:09:27

It's a side-effect of being Canadian.

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Dibs Ludicrous

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:10:23

think i could find a Maple tree to tap... if i was so inclined.

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:11:08

The trees don't make syrup, they make sap.

Human's make suryp out of the sap :P

Raf

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:13:06

My knowledge of syrup ends at Aunt Jemima.

So can a brother get some of this fancy syrup mailed to him.

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Dibs Ludicrous

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Nov 10th 2011, 23:17:36

wonder how much sugar they need to covert it from sap to syrup...

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 11th 2011, 0:07:22

none, the sugar is natural and already there (maple syrup is a natural sugar, and is far more healthy than processed sugars, which is one of the reasons why it is starting to grow in demand internationally).

They boil off water to turn the sap into syrup, approximately 200 parts water is boiled off for every 1 part of syrup that remains afterwards.

(there are other stages after that, but that is the big one).

Raf: Aunt Jemima isn't maple syrup, it is "table syrup" an inferior quality product both in taste and in nutrition (in fact it has almost none of the positive nutritional qualities of maple syrup)

anoniem

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Nov 11th 2011, 0:12:51

canada is still a country? wow.

re(ally)tired

Raf

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Nov 11th 2011, 0:43:21

So how much does this fancy super syrup cost?

That is an insane amount of sap to make syrup. How much production can you realistically get from one tree?

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 11th 2011, 1:37:53

Depends on the size of the tree, whether it has been tapped previously etc.

But on average I'd say, maybe 150 - 200 mL of syrup per tree in a season? (Sap only runs when it reaches -3ish in the evening and then over 0 during the day, with bigger variances = better. Thus it only runs in and around the early and late stages of winter).

H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 11th 2011, 1:41:21

http://www.themaplestore.com

ponderer

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Nov 11th 2011, 1:44:46

Vermont produces plenty of amber gold. We have several years worth of good old grade 'b' in our freezer.

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archaic

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Nov 11th 2011, 2:38:16

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

Depends on the size of the tree, whether it has been tapped previously etc.

This explains why Galleri's production has been down lately I guess . . .

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diez

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Nov 11th 2011, 4:54:26

Thank you obama for not being a nazi freak unlike certain people here...

Riddler

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Nov 12th 2011, 20:12:29

archaic that was almost harsh...

archaic

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Nov 13th 2011, 3:01:33

was not meant to be, i wubz me some galleri - i'd pour her on my pancakes any day

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Unsympathetic

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Nov 19th 2011, 4:23:32

H4, it's not just the oil - it's the fact that the companies doing the transporting have demonstrated their complete refusal to make the pipes free from incident. The few pipes that the keystone company does have in America have been a failure of epic proportions.

These pipes travel over the water for literally our entire country. When forced to make the choice between your oil and our water, water wins every time.

H4xOr WaNgEr

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Nov 19th 2011, 6:32:08

Why are you trying to justify the decision?

I have come out in clear support of it in this thread. I think this is a good outcome for Canada. It will probably lead to use selling more to Asia at a higher price.

archaic

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Nov 20th 2011, 3:09:37

Originally posted by Unsympathetic:

I am calling bullfluff - I'd like to see evidence of these 'epic' failures.

Free from incidents? Naive much?

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