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tduong Game profile

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Apr 20th 2012, 3:18:49

Originally posted by braden:
every other reset in primary i run a rep casher with plenty of defense (or so i think) and then a commie the size of bobbys butt (i called you fat for suggesting tduong indeed grab me :P), and i blow my stock to retal and finish the reset with fourteen million jets killing my expenses.

so this time, i thought i'd spend the money on turrets, hold my land, and deter those big commies/dicts from taking my land.

there are plenty of countries with more a) land, b) stock, and less defense.

unless you want to bother me, there is no reason to landgrab me. Look at bonesaw, who didn't buy those four million extra turrets (and pissed people off taking free land.. half of which he lost in one fell swoop)


you can never have enough defense especially when i can buy up to 16 mil jets a day. Right now, i might hit a commie for more land but i'm at the borderline where i'd rather hit a republic for less land but a few huundred bus/res. It costs me over $22mil to build 100 buildings and about 4.5mil to tear down 100 buildings. So I'll take the additional 500-800k jets lost to not have to build/tear down a few hundred buildings. Not only does that save me lots of cash, it also saves me turns that'll make more a whole lot more cash.
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Apr 21st 2012, 4:54:00

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Apr 21st 2012, 5:21:43

no especially to it, bud. no offense, but you or your country have nothing to do with never having enough defense, the math of the game makes it that way, for any country on any server :(

your bad ass looking country or some all jet dict with three strong off allies and no chance of a good finish breaks me almost any time, and he'd only need like what.. (i'm god awful terrible at math so i gave up and am throwing out a number that sounds right :P) 14 mil jets on a ps to break me?

so, i mean, i have ten ish (?) days to retal.. i can buy jets, too, tdoung.. especially if i won't have to rebuild the buildings i had already los to you ;)
(i figure SOME of your nw has to be jets if you're talkiing of breaking me :P)

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Apr 21st 2012, 5:47:24

#88 has no business being in top 5. Only reason he's there is because he O-leeched from a country with over 10-15m jets for 3 weeks.

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Apr 21st 2012, 7:46:20

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Apr 21st 2012, 7:47:43

... No 219-> 226

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Apr 21st 2012, 12:01:39

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
#88 has no business being in top 5. Only reason he's there is because he O-leeched from a country with over 10-15m jets for 3 weeks.


I guess he'll never change.
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Apr 21st 2012, 12:30:43

He will if the developers remove off allies. :-/

C'mon, no off allies. No off allies. No off allies

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Apr 21st 2012, 13:45:57

Originally posted by braden:
no especially to it, bud. no offense, but you or your country have nothing to do with never having enough defense, the math of the game makes it that way, for any country on any server :(

your bad ass looking country or some all jet dict with three strong off allies and no chance of a good finish breaks me almost any time, and he'd only need like what.. (i'm god awful terrible at math so i gave up and am throwing out a number that sounds right :P) 14 mil jets on a ps to break me?

so, i mean, i have ten ish (?) days to retal.. i can buy jets, too, tdoung.. especially if i won't have to rebuild the buildings i had already los to you ;)
(i figure SOME of your nw has to be jets if you're talkiing of breaking me :P)


i was thinking of LGing you because you are one of those perfect targets i look for. Even if you blow your stock to retal me, it's still not enough. If you do that, you just increase the land you give me because of your higher net.
If you can make a successful hit, you can only make 1 and you'll have a hard time just buying oil to make a second hit lol. You spent your bonus on defense which is a bad idea.
I'm not worried about your missiles because there's very few :)

So you have limited choices.
1. blow stock and jet up which you are still about 5-10mil jets short to break me.
2. Wait for me to make a second hit, buy 3 million tanks to AB. But I know what you capable of because my 2.9mil spies bullies your 600k spies. If I multitap, which will be more like 2x hits per day til humanitarian protests, I will have 2.75mil tanks :)

It's not luck that people don't retal me. I know my risk/reward when i analyze a spy op :)

Yes there are peeps that can break me, but that's if they gave up on their set just to make 1 retal. Are you ready to give up on your set?

Edited By: tduong on Apr 21st 2012, 13:50:44
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Apr 21st 2012, 17:04:13

so i guess there goes stocking at all!

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Apr 21st 2012, 17:09:30

but you're right, i should have spent all the money on offense instead of defense. you can break me either way, might as well run with enough jets to retal. better yet next reset i hold five million tanks and stock oil!

(and my post above was in reference to continuing to buy turrets, not stock food :P)

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Apr 21st 2012, 17:15:25

if you're trying to avoid getting LG'd then there's a few things you should do.

1. Maintain good defense
2. Unless you're on top, leave enough cash to show that you can retal instantly for 3x acres they got from you.
3. Boat loads of missiles so that DT is not an option for the person attacking you.
4. Not invest in defense bonus unless you're a dict. Invest in defense as a rep is a noob mistake.
5. Stay in the top 25
6. Have enough land where if i LG you then it wouldn't hurt your productions that much. That's why i only LG commies with land below 32k. A 40k+ acres commie can jet up quickly enough.
7. Have a spal of 30. That way, i might think twice about farming you as that you shoot up your spal too high and you can bomb my jets/buildings/banks.


The only thing you're doing right is that you have a small stock of cash. But even if you can buy 20mil jets today with that money, you're still about 10mil jets short in a successful attack against me.
Sorry braden, i really could farm you and probably get away with it right now. Maybe, a nuke or chem will get through but i don't mind losing 2-3k acres/buildings while probably gaining 10-15k.
Originally posted by blid:
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Apr 21st 2012, 17:22:12

you aren't the only one. but you could do that same thing to other cashers with less defense. so unless you'd do it to bother me, there are better targets aren't there?

and forgetting that there is next reset is always a noob mistake :P

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Apr 21st 2012, 17:27:12

and please, i'm happy to take your advice but please don't landgrab me? :)

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Apr 21st 2012, 17:43:53

Originally posted by braden:
you aren't the only one. but you could do that same thing to other cashers with less defense. so unless you'd do it to bother me, there are better targets aren't there?

and forgetting that there is next reset is always a noob mistake :P


Since i will probably be ahead of you. I don't think you can LG me next reset. And going cross resets is a noob thing to do.

There are cashers with less defense but with less land. They also have much more missiles. I'm not kidding when i say you are the best target. You should know by now that the only way for a rep to survive is to outgrow other governments. Look at the rankings.
Originally posted by blid:
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Apr 21st 2012, 19:24:09

oldman is on top. My lead is gone :(
Originally posted by blid:
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Apr 21st 2012, 20:41:36

so the best way to defend my land is to be able to threaten to suicide on a whim?

that seems unfair :(

tduong Game profile

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Apr 21st 2012, 20:53:26

well, obviously i bottomfeed and farm people because i want to gain and keep my land, buildings, resources, etc...

if you show the ability to take it away from me then why would i hit you?

That's why top players avoid hitting people that stocking.
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Apr 22nd 2012, 2:10:00

Originally posted by tduong:
oldman is on top. My lead is gone :(


you know it's not for long lol, especially when I bought 6m bushels for $194 on the PM. Hate playing on mobile =(

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Apr 22nd 2012, 3:34:58

Originally posted by braden:
so the best way to defend my land is to be able to threaten to suicide on a whim?

that seems unfair :(


Doesn't necessarily have to be the ability to suicide - showing the ability to suicide on a whim deters double taps on you.

But what you need is to show the ability to retal - that deters the very first tap on you to begin with.

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Apr 22nd 2012, 3:45:38

Originally posted by oldman:
Originally posted by tduong:
oldman is on top. My lead is gone :(


you know it's not for long lol, especially when I bought 6m bushels for $194 on the PM. Hate playing on mobile =(


the other day, i tore down 1200 IC, then i rebuilt it as IC instead of residential lol I did that 3 times already this set.

I used to have a droid with the 3.7 in screen. Now i'm on a droid x2 with the 4.3in. It makes a huge difference. A lot less mistakes.
Originally posted by blid:
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 3:48:20

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Originally posted by braden:
so the best way to defend my land is to be able to threaten to suicide on a whim?

that seems unfair :(


Doesn't necessarily have to be the ability to suicide - showing the ability to suicide on a whim deters double taps on you.

But what you need is to show the ability to retal - that deters the very first tap on you to begin with.


Confirmed!
Just staying in top25 will deter all attackers except topfeeders and retals. Keep up and stay ahead or with the front pack and you're fine.
Originally posted by blid:
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Apr 23rd 2012, 3:56:27

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
#88 has no business being in top 5. Only reason he's there is because he O-leeched from a country with over 10-15m jets for 3 weeks.
Guess a few people agree with you. This was obviously targeted:

2012-04-23 01:12:53 PS Arbitrary Arbitraryness (#215) Vice Viscount Valentino (#88) 6355A (9387A)
2012-04-23 01:12:18 PS banana bread (#250) Vice Viscount Valentino (#88) 6440A (9513A)
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Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

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Apr 23rd 2012, 11:29:40

And what about top 5?

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Apr 23rd 2012, 11:36:52

Originally posted by blid:
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
#88 has no business being in top 5. Only reason he's there is because he O-leeched from a country with over 10-15m jets for 3 weeks.
Guess a few people agree with you. This was obviously targeted:

2012-04-23 01:12:53 PS Arbitrary Arbitraryness (#215) Vice Viscount Valentino (#88) 6355A (9387A)
2012-04-23 01:12:18 PS banana bread (#250) Vice Viscount Valentino (#88) 6440A (9513A)


that is ouch!
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Apr 23rd 2012, 11:48:33

Question is, does tdoung now want a piece of that action for an easy 4k acres + ghosts?

tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 12:01:28

lol... it is very very tempting
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Apr 23rd 2012, 12:15:39

Try it then, I bet his retal will be huge lol.
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Apr 23rd 2012, 12:56:35

Would vivanick be putting himself in a bad position if he tries both of those retals?

I'm guessing he'd be losing more than 1.5m jets on each one, and to rebuild will be costing him another $2-2.5b. I think he'd be using too many resources to make both retals...

Doing #215 may be worth it (size and commie), but i can't see #250 being worth it at all.

Plus it's time that he can't spend exploring or hitting the cash button.

He should be logging in sometime soon to get his 18h bonus.

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Apr 23rd 2012, 13:01:16

but if he doesn't retal... lol
Originally posted by blid:
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Apr 23rd 2012, 13:33:35

I'd predict he's definitely going to retal them. He's not going to win with 53k land anyway, and he already has warfare tech.
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Apr 23rd 2012, 15:24:29

That Viva?
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Apr 23rd 2012, 16:50:31

Originally posted by caffeineaddict:
Question is, does tdoung now want a piece of that action for an easy 4k acres + ghosts?


With td being the nastiest landwhore, you bet his pants has a bulge!
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Apr 23rd 2012, 16:53:32

i didn't know tduong planned to go camping?

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Apr 23rd 2012, 17:08:19

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by caffeineaddict:
Question is, does tdoung now want a piece of that action for an easy 4k acres + ghosts?


With td being the nicest landlord, you bet his pants are shiny!


there, fixed it for ya
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Apr 23rd 2012, 17:18:28

what do i gotta do to get some love? lol. I'm not even trying to win here. Just playing the game with my own goals bothering as little people as possible :)
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Apr 23rd 2012, 17:47:59

Lol, I said it as a compliment ;)
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Apr 23rd 2012, 17:58:01

keep grabbing tduong=)! AFter spying around a bit, it's gonna be pretty close this set...

tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 18:09:45

i won't even make 100m net if i keep grabbing :(
Originally posted by blid:
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Apr 23rd 2012, 18:14:51

How much cash are you clearing a turn tdunog
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Apr 23rd 2012, 18:46:45

depends on what you're talking about
revenue, net income, revenue + cash, net income w/ cash

My maintenance is quite high :(
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Apr 23rd 2012, 18:49:06

Cash button, how much ya raking in?

Net income w/ cash.
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 18:53:00

i make an extra 8.8 mil
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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:19:33

WHATS THE BIG GREEN NUMBER TDUONG COME ON I WANT TO KNOW
HOW MUC YOU CASHING PER TURN
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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:20:01

WHAT IS YOUR TOTAL REVENUE, AFTER CASH 20% 8.8M BONUS, AND AFTER EXPENSES ARE SUPTRACTED
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:22:55

lol just spy me :)
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:23:27

my pci is 54.4
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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:25:38

Hahaha! tduong doesn't know what he is cashing a turn? It isn't that complicated. Hit cash and you will see a a dollar amount.
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:27:15

Money just appears in my coffers and i buy turrets :)
Originally posted by blid:
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 23rd 2012, 19:39:51

I'll tell you how i make so much money and stayed on top.

You guys use plans and calculators. You depended on accuracy and planning.

I use animal instincts and intelligence boosts provided by beer and. I calculated using nothing but crayons and rhymes of lil wayne drawn up on bounty paper towels. I only have high networth and big lands because i like using my "big numbers" to impress women :)

oh yeah, and extraordinary luck!

Edited By: tduong on Apr 23rd 2012, 19:42:40
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