QZ/Pang Re: Boxcar - Earth Empires Forum

locket

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Sep 11th 2012, 10:31:03

Why is the boxcar market ticker not being supported anymore?

Marshal

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Sep 11th 2012, 12:50:13

it took too much bandwith/resources or something like that.

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Requiem

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Sep 11th 2012, 12:55:21

So that just means pang needs a dependable host for boxcar.... Qz is hosting earth, evo gt, and boxcar...

Anyone in this community trustworthy and have the capability to host it?

Pang is/was working on a new hosting site and I can speak from experience the layout of it looks SWEET! I hope it gets completed sometime. So many things to do and so little time :p

MrTan1

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Sep 11th 2012, 16:56:45

I have a dedicated server.

iScode> thats ok mrford i know when im not welcome!! :(
* iScode cries

locket

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Sep 11th 2012, 20:48:00

Too much bandwidth? Guess screwing over a large portion of the community is the better choice then.

Marshal

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Sep 11th 2012, 21:21:03

qz posted some reason why it was disabled, not totally sure what it was but something like what i posted on 1st reply.

you can try searching that post.

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Sep 11th 2012, 21:50:10

bandwidth?
it's local...

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Requiem

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Sep 11th 2012, 21:51:03

Pang brings up a great point...

Nekked

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Sep 11th 2012, 23:27:55

somebody is just lazy!

locket

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Sep 11th 2012, 23:45:36

Ok so why is it then Pang? Do you not know?

Newworld

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Sep 12th 2012, 0:04:34

Originally posted by Pang:

bandwidth?
it's local...

What about the jquery/ajax calls between the server and browser to show the updates?

Not my intention to call out Pang, just my assumption on why QZ may have been concerned... ;P

Edited By: Newworld on Sep 12th 2012, 0:07:23
See Original Post

pew pew pew

qzjul

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Sep 12th 2012, 0:09:50

well, the original market ticker had every single person connected to boxcar doing 1 or 2 requests per second to boxcars server, which was using 2Mbit upload in the background...

A market ticker that updates on minute or several-minute intervals would be fine, that would reduce the background by at least a factor of 60...

[Edit: the 2Mbit was pang/TC's estimate before when I asked; TC has a 20Mbit symmetric pipe, so lots of UL room; mine is not symmetric, we have much more DL than UL bandwidth]

Finally did the signature thing.

locket

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Sep 12th 2012, 0:30:02

Ok so I see a few other options. Change it to every 30 seconds or minute and leave it on, have it as something that you click to activate so that it isnt always on for everyone or uhh.. forgot the 3rd idea.

Assuming Evo had something similar on their site how often did it update or how is it different? I assume you didn't shut it down.

Requiem

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Sep 12th 2012, 0:39:01

It should be up there and be a manual link the update it. That way it doesn't eat up Bandwidth when someone doesn't want to see it.

MrTan1

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Sep 12th 2012, 7:51:38

My domain has a 100 MB/s download/upload pipe that has unlimited bandwidth, cap, HDD space, mySql DBs, on a Dell Edge Server with 15k RPM and like 15 MB/s i/o speed for the HDD.
It can run any web hosting and still have plenty to spare (including the market ticker without bogging down the system) (edit was that they do not allow IRC, as it is their preference.)

I am willing to keep it going if we can have an actual use for it.

iScode> thats ok mrford i know when im not welcome!! :(
* iScode cries

Trife

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:43:43

Originally posted by qzjul:

well, the original market ticker had every single person connected to boxcar doing 1 or 2 requests per second to boxcars server

i think i found the problem

i'm not a rocket surgeon, but that seems like a pretty simple fix. why let it sit broken instead of fixing it? ಠ_ಠ

TAN

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:45:18

Trife! You are a rocket surgeon!

FREEEEEDOM!!!

Trife

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:45:42

no dummy, i'm a brain scientist!

TAN

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:46:34

You're a dermascientologist!

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Trife

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:47:17

i do idolize tom cruise

TAN

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:53:04

but do you idleize him?

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Locklen

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Sep 12th 2012, 14:55:09

locket

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:00:57

FIX :/

Trife

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:11:55

i iodize him

TAN

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:18:19

What about ionizing him?

FREEEEEDOM!!!

qzjul

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:29:44

Evo doesn't have a market ticker; if you want to see the market, you currently have to go to the market page;

As for fixing it; I've looked at boxcars code once or twice now, it's not exactly programmer-friendly... i think thats why pang wants to write a new one...

Finally did the signature thing.

Dooman

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:37:23

Did you only disable it for certain alliances?

Trife

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:40:22

again, i'm not a ionizing specialist, but i would've guessed there was a field where it tells the market thingie how often to refresh, and figured why not change it from 60 to 1 (updates per minute or whatever)?

oh well

qzjul

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Sep 12th 2012, 15:48:20

It's possible; but pang would have to find it/ do it; there's a lot of stuff in there, a lot of legacy stuff i suspect as well...

Finally did the signature thing.

UBer Bu

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Sep 12th 2012, 16:36:19

I had to leave it disabled back when it worked, the constant updates were battery killers when viewing the site from a mobile.

-take off every sig.

locket

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Sep 12th 2012, 20:53:48

Pang! Fix that fluff :/ just change the number of things it does to a more manageable number. 30 seconds? :D

locket

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Sep 12th 2012, 20:53:58

Please. :P

Requiem

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Sep 12th 2012, 22:05:45

Mr. Tan part of the qualifications included trustworthy... I'm not sure you qualify there :p

locket

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Sep 12th 2012, 22:53:54

Considering some of the stuff done by other people who are trusted I wouldn't only consider the past. Present Tan may be much more trust worthy. That's not my decision though :P

Requiem

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Sep 12th 2012, 23:11:50

I only trust me, myself, and I.

MrTan1

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Sep 13th 2012, 2:27:58

Requiem, BC Admins cannot do anything but reset server, add public boards and other functions. They aren't able to see alliance forums as that's how the script is ran. So, it is pointless to bring it up about trustworthy when Admins don't have that kind of access.

iScode> thats ok mrford i know when im not welcome!! :(
* iScode cries

Pain

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Sep 13th 2012, 4:54:07

wheres tdoung when you need a server

Your mother is a nice woman

Requiem

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Sep 13th 2012, 4:56:02

He's prob making mad cash with that super sweet server.