Ive never took part in any flaming toward you. Or none of that bullfluff. im still friends with hanlong. And play with his terrible ass in league of legends. But this is probally the most bullfluff thing ive ever read. I probally shouldnt even post it but at this point i really dont care.

just really what crawled up your ass. We had this same problem with PDM. But in the end me and big ben could work it out. And be civil about it.

We all know about thomas and why he doesnt do FA. But this is beyond low. And is you just trying to be a bully.

From: H4xOr WaNgEr
To: Thomas
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Retalling the RoR retal
Date: Dec 19th, 16:22
Message Body:
I don't give a fluff what the techers did last reset, no techers have hit you this reset.

Plus trying to outrun retals is not cheating nor is it shady, the fact that you consider it such only shows that you have some unwarranted sense of entitlement when it comes to your land.

So when I tell you that it was poor form to be so uncivil your retort is to double down on that uncivility? Well how about this, since you seem tot think LaF is so incredibly shady, we may as well behave shady so we can at least profit off the perception, no? So here is how it is going to go:

LaF will no longer accept retaliations from Sanct in any form.

Have a merry christmas.

Hilarious.

Why don't you post the whole thing?

im not thomas so i dont have the whole thing. This is what i have. And im not here trying to be a asshole or anything else.

Dude just quit the game. Let's find somewhere else to play where laf won't follow. Pang, this game will never sell so long as laf is here. Just close it down.

LAF isn’t the only bad alliance/people in this game.

Everyone got their bad apple even PDM.

Yeah, Rival are just as "bad".

We quit they move on to another alliance. Gotta get that land fast somehow and screwing over other alliances to do it is their game. Basically their plan is rape us, enforce their retal policy upon us, and when we rightfully complain call us uncivil and tell us to roll over and die. I guess we should have begged to not get farmed from the almighty LaF.

lol, if you do not like a alliance buck up and fight them, everyone that is crying about leaving is just a fluffing fluff.


end of discussion.

we got bad apples too.. so do evo

With tisya gone, there's no reason for me to play anymore :(

Yeah, Evo sure do. But a word to the wise I'm not actually in Evo and have zero access to their site.

Though, I don't think Evo FS other alliances for "fun", so they can't have too many bad apples.

Anon, for fun, 2.5 weeks left in a set....

Evo has shaney in their ranks a guy that cheats everywhere, heck yeah they have bad apples.

Fyi, MD has no bad apples, at least not for long. You mess up and you are out. I dare say MD is the most respectable alliance. You won't see members being douchbags even on other servers.

Martian is watching me, so I am going to be nice and stay off of this thread . . .

You left out the message that Thomas sent to H4:

"This is how it works... You hit an alliance, you play by their retal rules. There is no enforcing your policy on other tags when they retal.

And yes I will talk down to shady fluffs like LaF. Because I'm sick of the unethical, shady tactics and cheating by LaF. You are their leader, no? It all falls back on you.

Have a nice day
Mwah"

Seems like H4 decided to show as much respect for Thomas as Thomas showed LaF. If you don't want people acting like an asshole to you, you might want to keep your resident retard from handling FR matters.

lol post one side of a small conversation and try to yell at Laf.. nice.

both have points. thomas dont sugar coat his feelers but laf refusing to accept any retals is just ludicruous.

im also going to need you to hold your fs until after new years when im sober again. didnt you get the memo about those tps reports?

*pies kemo

quit arguing with pigeons

the best part isnt even posted

the very first message was from thomas to h4 in the form of a threat.

im too lazy to provide that kind of entertainment for AT, but maybe someone else in laf isnt

Aaaw, but eugene wikipedia says you provide special favors... surely entertaining us falls under this description, no?

I don't know you, but you look like a pretty big douche for posting that on a public AT forum.

The idea is you message H4 back and negotiate. He is playing a roll in negotiation called "hardball" or "hard to get".

You don't get anywhere in life crying to mommy (AT boards being mommy in this case).

Damn, I'm was missing a pie, Damn you Newworld you owe me a pie!

here let's look at it this way.

what does h4 do for work?
what does thomas do for work?


ya, that's what i thought

Hanlong would play LoL...

this is extremely out of context heh.

i already said i dont have everything posted. All i have is what i put. But either way wanger. If u want to help settle this. Msg me and ill come to you. Im on 24/7

they lied to you then. :P

Tinysub, you can message either H4 or myself when you're free and around on IRC buddy.

Cheers.

*Streaks through the thread and pies Nekked*

Sorry, here's your missing pie. :P

I DEMAND BANANA CREAM PIE!

Here it is... I don't give a fluff, I have nothing to hide. LaF are a bunch of douchebags, since when was that news? Look at what they just did to prove it... they whine when they get hit by suiciders. They get caught cheating how many times... it doesn't matter... bunch of douchebags. That's the theme here, douchebags. And since I deal with douchebags at work, I figured I would talk to them in the same language.

Here is my original message:

From: Thomas
To: H4xOr WaNgEr
Subject: Retalling the RoR retal
Date: Dec 19th, 00:48
Message Body:
<b>Landgrab</b>

Dec 16/12 3:57:32 PM PS Milk Ocean (#298) (LaF) Imperialism (#390) (SANcTA) 1128 A (+618 A)


<b>Retal</b>

Dec 16/12 6:59:21 PM PS Imperialism (#390) (SANcTA) Milk Ocean (#298) (LaF) 1111 A (+452 A)

<b>RoR</b>

Dec 17/12 11:50:31 PM PS Xin is the real Slim Shady (#13) (LaF) Imperialism (#390) (SANcTA) 1419 A (+1026 A)


<b>Our Policy</b>

Landgrabbing the Retaller

Any country that has made a retal cannot be landgrabbed by that same tag for 48 hours.
Any violations of this will be considered Over-Retalling and subject to 200% L:L (maximum of 40% from Ghost Acres).

http://wiki.earthempires.com/...hp/Sanctuary_Retal_Policy


<b>Our Response</b>

Dec 18/12 10:13:02 PM PS Imperialism (#390) (SANcTA) Xin is the real Slim Shady (#13) (LaF) 1173 A (+382 A)

Dec 18/12 10:11:31 PM PS Imperialism (#390) (SANcTA) Xin is the real Slim Shady (#13) (LaF) 1171 A (+477 A)


<b>Your Response</b>

Dec 18/12 11:01:35 PM PS Xin is the real Slim Shady (#13) (LaF) Imperialism (#390) (SANcTA) 1835 A (+1436 A)


<b>Our Next Response</b>

200% L:L, again. It is plainly in our retal policy. If you do not like our retal policy, the easiest way to avoid this situation is to discontinue grabbing us. You guys grabbed us like hell last set and outran us with your TTRs, then signed a pact once we were in position to retal.

Now you're playing the games again. I get you're bigger than us. But that doesn't mean we are going to back down. We do have friends in this game still. And not many tags really "like" you guys a whole lot. Many will tolerate you, but that's usually as far as it goes.

So if you want to keep playing chicken, that's totally fine by me. We have absolutely nothing to lose. It's not like we're losing an opportunity at AVG NW. But this is your official notice that we are retalling 200% L:L on that last RoR. Technically, he RoR'd the retal for the RoR, so it should be compounded at 2x 200% L:L, or 400% L:L. But I'm feeling generous today.

Any further response by LaF will be deemed an act of aggression.

Hugs & Kisses,

Thomas

I fail to see how I talked down to you. I simply explained it to you in a way that you would understand, since our retal policy is too complex for you to understand, or you are just plain ignorant. Or both...

fluff LaF

You want to know where I work?

There is no negotiating. It's our retal policy. Don't like it, don't fluffing hit us. If you do, we're going to retal according to it. We aren't bending our policy for anybody, especially a bunch of cheaters.

From: Thomas
To: H4xOr WaNgEr
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Retalling the RoR retal
Date: Dec 20th, 13:35
Message Body:
Will you be my valentine?


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I know it's early, but I'd still like a response.

Yes, it is always the retal policy of the defender that applies, this is percisely why there have never been any wars over retal policies.

Oh wait...


PS: just keep digging sanct a bigger hole, it is all good.

hole*

corrected, thanks for pointing that out.

anoniem will always point out your hole, h4.

i love holes!

THER"ES A HOLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA
THERE'S A HOLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA
ECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaUBQus5FHk

oy.

IT IS THE ABYSS!!!!!!

no wait!!

http://youtu.be/He-LBIyBUz8

Thomas gave you hugs and kisses and you act aggressively towards him.

fluffing douchebags.

I am going to throw out a curve ball here Thomas.

Everyone who plays under LaF plays by LaF policy.
Everyone who plays under PDM plays by PDM policy.

Outgoing or incoming that how it works.

It is then up to the respective contacts and leaders to negotiate, NEGOTIATE being the key word to find a middle ground between the two if at all possible.

KriSatZ, you're trying to ask crazy to be logical. Double plus unpossible.

Evo has no bad apples. They are all nice and fresh, as they are in season.