Originally
posted by
Flamey:
It's the same old pot/kettle/black. After complaining about gangbangs, unfair wars, inconvenient wars and political outmanoeuvring, SoL/MD decided to do the same thing to SoF for a few sets and halved our membership.
We got you back and then we pacted you thereafter.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
However, our mind was pretty much made up to 1 vs 1 MD, once they told us they weren't pacting for a week, while they proceeded to try and pact an ally of ours.
Since that is directed at me, not true. I told Sov we weren't pacting yet when he approached me. I then spoke to our Prez and pointed out that if we wanted to go forward with our friendly with SOL we really needed to get pacting done and that SoF had already approached me. (This was like 5-6 days before the reset?) I was told to go ahead and start pacting but to leave LaF and SoF for MD's top Heads to handle. So I got 7 other pacts done in the next 24 hours or so. Which, BTW, included pacting RIVAL (a historical enemy) and giving them the terms they wanted as we were trying to put old grudges behind us. I told MULTIPLE leaders how happy I was that MD basically had no enemies and no grudges and that we were planning a friendly instead (this was still 4-5 days before the reset started).
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
It was only when the set began and the numbers largely favoured us, did MD/SoL actively try to pact us
No, I was instructed to get the other pacts first. I got all of them done but one - RAGE. I wasn't allowed to respond to SoF until I had the others done. But RAGE stonewalled us (now we understand, under Sov's orders) which prevented me from getting back to SoF until day 2 (I think) of the set - at that point we gave up on RAGE and I literally told the MD Prez - look, RAGE isn't responding, but I need to get back to Sov and WArriOR...
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
Of course we became aware of their plans as we are allied, but we agreed that the wars would be separate as LaF/MD are allied.
How nice of you to (try to) plan our set for us without asking us.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
Before the war began, we believed the SoF/MD conflict would be close
So you didn't op any of us before your FS?
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
When MD and SoL announced a friendly, we were very cynical and believed it was a ploy as they had the same predictions.
Please explain "same predictions"? What predictions? As mentioned before, we were delaying public announcement until pacting was done and pacting was dragged out by RAGE, under Sov's orders.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
We felt they used it as a get out of jail card, even though that was another implausible war (55 vs 40).
You must not have read the post where we explained how we would even out numbers and determine the FS, etc.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
However, returning to the issue, it was MD/SoL who took the tactical decision to focus on SoF
True, following through on what we said about anyone messing with the friendly would get hit by both allies. Absolutely stand-up action by SOL taking it from LaF all set and still honoring that commitment.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
...and tell us they are coming after us next set with allies.
Wait, what???? News to me. When was this?
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
Although SoF outperformed SoL and MD individually
ummmm, yeah. You FS'd a totally unprepared alliance (MD) and the other (SOL) was being creamed by LaF. Wow, amazing you managed to squeak out more HPM, pat yourself on the back.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
the combined numbers were sure to overrun us and demoralise our membership
"our failed strategy was demoralising our membership..." - there, FTFY.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
Because, as the past half a year has shown, MD/SoL are not as sanctimonious as they portray themselves on AT.
Yeah Flamey, sorry we helped get your cheating BFF's in LAF and RD exposed/deleted. And then we refused to pact them and attacked them after they were exposed. How unsanctimonious of us.
Originally
posted by
Flamey:
So my message to SoL/MD is... feel our wrath this set and we'll be waiting for you and your allies next set. But just a note for MD's allies... They might be thankful for your support, but don't expect them to bail you out of a tight spot in the future. I'm sorry Rage found that out the hard way in the past, but happy that we are building a strong relationship where we'll help each other and to go out on a limb for each other. Rage on!
Since that is a message to SOL/MD, I'd love to know WTH you are talking about? We did nothing but help RAGE whenever we could. They WOULD NOT EXIST if it were not for us.
Should I share all the posts from RAGE folks about SoF? How about this one:
Darrian:
Aug 03, 2013 6:07 PM
Sof has always been unfair. At no point do I remember them being trustworthy