You know what sucks ?

you sold ALL your mil.

so your restart will be Garbage. oppsed to a 40% restart.. AH HA HA HA.

nub :D

^

Yeah, the bleeding down of mil and acres while walling is no longer a viable meta. In fact, other than the initial hard wall to deplete attacker resources, walling itself is kind of questionable if it takes your hitting out of play for too long and hurts your restart.

maybe he thought he'd survive the set.

LOL

His restart is in pretty good condition actually. Pretty cool how your spal doesn't take a huge hit.

Maybe so, but you guys spent a lot of resources taking Crazy Train down, so fluff you, and who cares about a restart anyway with 7 days left? You are still an asshole Donny.

Anyway, I was happy enough with my Monarchy techer to Dictator country build. I followed a plan from Blackmamba. At the end there I had a spal of about 240 and I killed a lot of spies. I joined the war for fun and to play that Dictator. I really couldn't care less about the restart, its just a throwaway country now.

But it was fun meeting the Stones crowd, thanks guys!

The more defends you take, the better your restart. You have to find a balance.

is that true? if so... cool!

Yes... this changed in early 2014...


From Announcement Board:
These changes will roll in as resets occur, starting with FFA which starts tomorrow.

1) Restart Aid Tweaks & Bugfixes

i) Difference between servers with multi_allowed and not (Max still 95%)
a) multies allowed (FFA,AI,AlphaFFA)
20% + 0.06% / defend
b) single country servers
40% + 0.06% / defend (from 70% + 0.02% / defend)

ii) Minimum's lowered
a) minimum land halved to total_turns/2
b) minimum CS lowered to total_turns*1/50 from total_turns*3/40
c) minimum reverted to total_turns*3000 from total_turns*4000

iii) Bugfix: Defends are properly calculated now (for some reason d_tot actually was only ss/ps)

iv) Bugfix: PS'd units are now counted in totals for restarting

v) Bugfix: Can sell when out of protection and below turn 100

vi) Bugfix: Can send/receive FA when out of protection and below turn 100

anything past (I think) 700 is useless other than pride

According to the formula above, 1,250 defends gives you max restart.

TRIPPLE QUOTE BECAUSE fluff YOU!

I saw that.

You are senile. I don't see fluff nor is it edited.

What's next? You going to start measuring liquids in weight rather than volume?

And my math says 917 defends.

95% max, 40% base, 0.06% per.

Are spy attacks counted in that do you know? I had 490 defends, but a lot more if you add the spys.

I don't think so.

That's pretty interesting there, I was wondering why I had such a better restart last set. I can't believe how different war is nowadays. Pretty awesome changes imo but its hard for everyone who is so hardwired for the old days.

I don't think spy is included in defends. I think it is just ab/gs/br and perhaps ss/ps.

1250 is just from 70-95%

takes 500 to get to 70%

.4+ (500×.0006) =70%

:( celphi moment

Sorry... had a moment there. Max is like 916 for 95%

doesnt count for much if you sell everything off just trying to survive another hit tho.

Yeah that makes no sense at all.

That is why I said find a balance.

I also think you keep more of the fluff you have on the market so when I wall I throw everything I can on that fluff.

[quote poster=mrford; 37824; 689818
I also think you keep more of the fluff you have on the market so when I wall I throw everything I can on that fluff. [/quote]

I meant to see exactly how much u kept but got busy in hustle n bustle and forgot to check >.<

Thats pretty interesting about the restarts, I didn't even consider it when I played my country and walled all those attacks. I'm a noob at war, I admit, though I've gotten pretty good at netting in the 6 years I've been playing. I don't much like the idea of letting my country be killed without making every effort to defend it, but that is apparently the way it works so I'll have to learn how to find that balance in future. If I'd thought about it I would have kept my 1.3m spies, put military on the market and let my country be GS'd a day earlier. Live and learn. Next time I'll join a team so I have some allies too.

by qz:

1) Restart Bonus tweaks:
- Base percentage kept will drop to 20% for non-FFA servers (from 40%), with the addition of 0.06% per defend (of *THAT* country - not all countries all round) remaining the same
- The percentage of goods ON MARKET that are kept will be calculated separately with a base of 50% + 0.06% per defend (of *THAT* country - not all countries all round)

Since this is my thread, I will write some more, since I have some thoughts. I started playing right at the beginning of EE and never played Earth 2025 except for one month right at the end of it. I joined the Monsters because I met some people I liked and wanted to learn the game from some experts. And I did learn from them, but mostly peaceful strategies, and very good ones, for the various government types. I played a lot of Express where I learned a lot about the market, the general mechanics of the game, like the PM and destocking, effective landgrabbing, the real value of the different resources.

This has been a great set for me because I've only been in a warchat with the Monsters in our recent Imag war, and then this one on the Stones irc channel. Its a lot of fun. I've been wanting to learn more about warring, and I've enjoyed my many one on one matches in Express, Primary and especially Tournament. But the single servers aren't the same as this war we are having, and I think its really cool with the warbot, annd the sharing of spyops in the Gghq site and all of that.

I still think that the ability to build a good country and net is an essential part of this game, and I enjoy it without needing to have a war every set. This is fun though and I see why people want to war all the time.

Its a good game, cheers, and my suicidal restart will be coming for you specially Donny, sad though it may be.

I used to be like you, and enjoyed netting. Warring is much more fun and much more competitive. Welcome to the dark side.

:-)

Knowing basics of netting is huge especially when you spend half of your turns attacking. You had a very well built country getafix.

this game has never been about solo play for me like most people who cut their teeth on express. the only reason this game is even still here is vets who have formed friendships on clan servers.

shame you never got to experience running a warchat with over 100 people in it.

Pshhh it was such an easy break...

*looks at my destroyed country*

Yo he sold all his spies on the pm . ;)

Yo he sold all his spies on the pm . ;)



As for resources . You selling off all your mil probably only made us use about 300m worth more . Opposed to the 2 b it cost you ..

B) Changeset 16:

1) Restart Bonus tweaks:
- Base percentage kept will drop to 20% for non-FFA servers (from 40%), with the addition of 0.06% per defend (of *THAT* country - not all countries all round) remaining the same
- The percentage of goods ON MARKET that are kept will be calculated separately with a base of 50% + 0.06% per defend (of *THAT* country - not all countries all round)

same thing twice in same thread.

*waits 3rd*

I enjoyed the show

I just refuse to die out of pride.

Aperture Science... we do what we must.... because, we can.

I almost did the same, scrolled quickly through all the responses once I saw the useless debate on the math using the 40% baserate.