Lets say you assume someone will not be online to play turns and items on the market won't be returned to suddenly cause a surge of army.

If you just did an op on someone, and you calculated the exact numerical number needed to theoretically break someone, how much extra gain do you add to make sure you succeed? i.e. all bonuses taken into account such as 50% extra planned strike, 25% extra Dict, -10% Rep, Research Bonus, all the mil hit points, etc.

I've had times were I do just a bit higher than the theoretical and for it not to work. Not sure why. Maybe he was online and played turns. Maybe things got returned from market. So now I put a healthy 5-10% margin on top of the theoretical number to make sure the strike goes through, but its wasted troops and wasted oil. Ideally I'd like to cut it slimmer and be more efficient. What is your 'fudge' factor?

There's a ~10% random variance so always add 10% and you'll succeed 99% of the time.

Oh? I didn't know that. That could explain it then. Yeah in that case, definitely +10%.

the random factor is 5% for each party so technically you have a chance to break at 90% and fail at 110% so always send 111%.

Are you asking this because you bounced an attack on me?

No I don't bounce now because I always use 10% more or so. Only when I started playing a long while ago. But the question popped into my head so I finally asked. I don't know where this 5% each side rule is listed though.

http://www.earthempires.com/...ang-dh-35867?t=1429827658

this thread sheds alot of light on it.

some call it being mehul'd others call it being pang'd

mehuled for sure

Qzuled

pangqzd

It's really none of the above anymore, it's just a simple bell curve.

user error.

lol I'm always stingy and tend to send just nice and hope for a sunny day. Unless it's a freaking Retal that I damn well sure wana get back all it's worth lol

Hey... don't we all over send for max Ghost Acres?

i read somewhere max ghost acres are calculated by over send and net worth comparison between the two countries everything has a sweet spot.

most times the break on a person that isn't playing to be a fluff and all jetter is usually enough for max ghost for their size.

If that's the case, just ps 5x, save the formulas lol :p

yes that (units sent) was reality at some point but might be defunct now.

of course if break is 1m jets ps and sends 5m jets then attacker is more or less idiot.

I'm pretty sure this is still the setup: http://www.earthempires.com/...set-16-31864?t=1465285256

4) Ghost acres cap based on units sent

- In each attack, you will be limited to a maximum 1 Ghost Acre (type I) per (your_land/20) units sent.
- Example I: You are 20k Acres; Land/20 = 1000; thus, for every 1000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 20kA with 200k units, get 2000A + 200A ghosts (because 200k/1000 = 200)

- Example II: You are 20k Acres; Land/20 = 1000; thus, for every 1000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 20kA with 2M units, get 2000A + normal ghosts (because 2M/1000 = 2000 ghosts, and you can't get 2000A ghosts from this grab)

- Example III: You are 100 Acres; Land/20 = 5; thus, for every 5 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 400A with 50 units, get 40A + 10A ghosts (because 50/5 = 10)

- Example IV: You are 100 Acres; Land/20 = 5; thus, for every 5 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 400A with 500 units, get 40A + normal ghosts (because 500/5 = 100, and you can't get 100A ghosts from this grab)

- Example V: You are 80k Acres; Land/20 = 4000; thus, for every 4000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 80k with 100k units, get 8000A + 25A ghosts (because 100000/4000 = 25)

- Example VI: You are 80k Acres; Land/20 = 4000; thus, for every 4000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 80k with 12M units, get 8000A + 3000A ghosts (because 12000000/4000 = 3000)

- Example VII: You are 80k Acres; Land/20 = 4000; thus, for every 4000 units sent, you can get 1 Ghost acre.
You attack somebody who is 80k with 20M units, get 8000A + normal ghosts (because 20000000/4000 = 5000 and you can't get that many ghosts from this grab)


- Reasoning for this change: Makes land trading slightly more expensive, cracks down on obvious abuse; should boost military kept on hand, thus reducing suiciders; may boost troop market slightly.

yea it should be relevant but ...........