This is our new retal policies for non pacted alliances,

Our retal policy is 1:1 on all non topfeeds.

Multiple hits on the same country in 24 hours from the same alliance will be retaliated 1:1 2:1 (escalating)

Multiple hits on SoF from the same country within 24hours will be retaliated 1:1 2:1 (escalating)

Topfeeds will be retalliated land:land.
- a topfeed is defined as the defender having more than 125% the land or networth of the attacker.

DH's will be retalliated 1:1 non escalating

Missile attacks will be retaliated land:land or 2:1, whichever is greater.

More than 4 attacks on a SOF country per week will be grounds for a kill.

Reparations are calculated as $27,500 per acre per week.


Since most of the server wants to open up for some grabbing we are trying to adjust to that to give your and our own players a more intresting playing aspect, since formulas in the game itself encourages grabbing between countries the same size so will we so that both the attacker/defender can earn on the deal without too much hassle

Ivan
Vice President
Survival of the Fittest

nice.. i like it lol

grabbing is good, therefore this is good

"Multiple hits on the same country in 24 hours from the same alliance will be retaliated 1:1 2:1 "

that's nice but i am understanding you are retaling all hits with one hit! :P

Well Dagga 2 to answer your post

1 we dont give a fluff what you think, this is our policies if you wanna hit us or not thats up to you

2 "as the best hits will be made around similar NW" which is exactly what we are trying to encourage countries the same size in land and nw hitting each other

3 fluff

That just prevents the same tag from hitting the same country repeatedly tavi, we want to encourage grabbing we dont want farming to break out and in most cases this actually protects your tag more then it does to ours

there's no such thing as topfeeds.

shrug, thats up to you this is our opinion on things and if you dont have a pact with us you will follow it or take the consequences for it its as easy as that

We arent forcing anyone of you to hit us and imo these rules arent very unfair but if people prefer we will just go back to 150% L:L on all hits?

Anyway if you dont have anything valid to post, then go post it somewhere else

The entire L:L concept is what the problem in terms of LGing between alliances. Not to mention the fact that the attacker being 125% smaller in NW (as per your policy) is not a top feed. A country gets the max amount of land being the same NW not smaller. Therefore a country that is 25% smaller than the country he attacks will get less land than if he was equal. This is not a top feed.

Like TAN said there is no such thing as a top feed.

I think a fun environment would be where most retals were country:country where the alliance would step in only if the attacker does more than say 2 or 3 grabs or special attacks. That to me would be a much more interesting environment to play in.

For some reason everyone on this server wants to have ultimate tag protection while still being able to grab. This structure would work if we had thousands of players and plenty of targets. This however is not the case. We have less than 1k countries and no one wants to accept being attacked or defending their own country.

Now we have a server that is quite frankly boring as hell to play on because you either farm the same untaggs every day or go all explore.

If you don't like land:land, then stop being such a crappy player that people can retal you. Get more turrets, or stop whining about people retalling your attacks. Just because you can't defend your country from retaliation doesn't mean we should take pity on your nubbishness.

rockman sighting!

You've got it wrong Rockman!

I read yer post requiem and suprisingly most if it said blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

but since im a very nice person im going to reply to your 125% argument and that is that if the country is bigger then its a lot less returns with 125% we still allow a 30k acers country to hit a 40k acers country for example

like i said the point is to encourage grabbing between countries the same size and nothing else, if you want country:country retals only well heck start a clan and do it id more then happy to farm you into the ground untill you quit

If anyonelse has any whine to post, like i said earlier post it somewhere else

My math be wrong, but isn't that 30k country attacking a country with 133% of their land, and subject to land for land under your policy?

I don't believe my post was whining but I do believe that if anyone has anything to say in contrary to your ideas you will dismiss, in your mind, as whining.

If you want me to quit it would take a lot less work than that ;)

Indeed they will!

submtit to teh fluffy side

sof.earth2025.net

lol ponderer you referring to my country and the grab on #37?

Evo were entitled to take land:land from me but they didnt

150% land actually murf

ya buddy 30k hittin a 40k is over 1.25% :P

lol yeah its bad example, was bein lazy and didnt actually count it

how can we do any whine if there isn't enough cheese?
do these retal rules apply to untaggeds?
hmm, for that matter, are people allowed to play untagged?

do these rules apply to people not playin the game at all?

you didnt read my post good. i know what escalating is for (LOL!) it's just that you wrote like this : "1:1 2:1 ..." meaning for one hit you retal once, for 2 hits you retal still once and so on :)

correct should have been 1:1 3:2 ... and so on :P

good point tavi

Ivan--

Very nice policy. Are you guys still on the 72 hour retal window?

I like most of what I read but is 125% the common number? Seems a bit small to me... since at small lands you wont be able to hit much of anything. Not that id grab you anyways but seems restrictive :P

For now we are Thomas, this might change as well I actually havnt thought about it but untill something else is announced we will be on 72h retal windows

Its quite hard finding a number that doesnt restrict too much and doesnt allow too much locket perhaps this will be adjusted in the future

i agree with requiem. country:country is the way to go.

it rewards more skilled players.

i hate the "go play primary if you want C:C" crap, i think the alliance steps in if someone is really abusing you, but if its just a grab and you can't retal yourself you should just "L2P N00B"

No tavi, that's a standard way of writing retals. Saying "3:2" doesn't give the relevant information in all circumstances. Saying "1:1, 2:1, 3:1" is much clearer.

And your interpretation that they are retalling all hits with 1 retal would never be right regardless. The retalling alliance's hits are always listed first... you can essentially understand retals by replacing the colon (":") with the word "for". For you to be correct, they would have had to write "1:1, 1:2, 1:3" rather than "1:1, 2:1, 3:1".

-Fooglmog
Guy with no clue.

Okay thanks for the info.

don't you guys find it funny how a netting alliance such as NA is the only one that had the balls to make a policy that actually made the server more fun????

yea but they were losing out bigtime

Perhaps a point at which the number changes? Like anything beyond 15k is 125 and before that is 150? I dunno

And when that noob throws a missile because he's got no other way of making his displeasure known, you'll kill him, and he'll quit. People play in alliances for tag protection; if it's not going to be available, alliances will be called out for false advertising and new members are going to leave.

i think this is good.

why not use the HAN retal policy. 75% of single grabs are ignored. 25% are retalled with 20x AB's.

Ivan --

I was going to contact you about a LG, to verify the application of this policy. But it appears I have been banned from #sof ??

[16:21] #sof unable to join channel (address is banned)

I think its pretty clear, PM me or aponic we are both around on gamesurge right now

or just PM me here regarding this

ponderer: haha

don't forget the in game message:

You no grab HAN make building go boom

HAN no like landgrab. You dai now.

If you were banned its removed now

SoF's retal policy:


1 LG from Sanct or Evo , we FS u :0

/me waits for smz to sell his alliance mates down the river

GLORY TO HAN!

just got a question about your "topfeed" policy.

It's my understanding that land has little to do with how much land you gain during a landgrab anymore, so why is it that there are still topfeed policies still being enacted? It looks to me to be just something clans use just to get free land.

whoa I forgot I even posted in here, and no need to get touchy. also, what i posted was and is valid. it seems that any opinion other than yours is somehow invalid? did i get that right?

regardless, your topfeeding rule makes no sense:



Country A = 10m NW, 10k land
Country B = 1m NW, 10k land

So you would call Country A's hit on Country B to be a topfeed? Absurd. The returns would be horrible with the new formulas. You need to be more specific with what you define as topfeeding, even though it doesn't exist.

Was interesting how HAN always conveniently forgot english if FA went south or difficult. Trolley and Niceti were better at english than most of us north americans.

No according to their policy that would not be a topfeed :P
The DEFENDER has to have 125% more land/NW. So country B hitting country A would be a topfeed per their policy.

Sorry, that's what I meant. But it doesn't make any sense, because a topfeed is a subjective definition based on maximized returns.

Clearly Country B hitting Country A is not maximizing returns at all, because optimal returns are figured by both NW *and* land, not just one or the other as this retal policy states.