GDI in Primary - Earth Empires Forum

nanwich

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Nov 27th 2011, 0:35:27

Is there any real value in joining GDI in Primary? I'm already losing a lot of money per turn.

It just means that countries more than double your NW would have to declare war in order to attack you. Likewise you can not attack a country less than half your NW without declaring war. Helps when big countries are looking to bottomfeed you won't likely be their target.

braden

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Nov 27th 2011, 0:45:44

save sixteen bonus points, join gdi, and use the permanent free gdi bonus to save all those dolla dolla bills, yo

afaik

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Nov 27th 2011, 1:24:49

Originally posted by Nuketon:

Sorry nuketon, that is not the case. GDI in primary means only that nobody can use any special attacks against you, only the 'stealing' spy ops, and SS and PS are permitted, unless you hit them more than one time in the set (in which case all gdi restrictions are removed between the two countries)

It provides absolutely no nw protection in this server. The only nw protection is humanitarians at 1/4.

oldman

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Nov 27th 2011, 3:20:22

there's no declaring war option in primary. There's only the 1/4 humanitarian rule which is irritating. I'm running out of targets to hit.

GDI only stops folks from doing harmful attacks on you unless you attack them more than once. If you're going to double/triple/quad tap folks like some of the top guys are doing, then GDI is not worth it.

jabberwocky

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Nov 27th 2011, 3:57:53

GDI means random suiciders you haven't touched can't AB/CM you, which can be reassuring.

Serpentor

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Nov 27th 2011, 6:43:14

Yes, but if you only attack each country once, you don't need troops tanks or sdi. :)

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crest23

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Nov 27th 2011, 14:26:25

They will soon though.

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Nuketon

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Nov 28th 2011, 4:56:47

didn't realize it was different on this server... k I learned something.

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Nov 28th 2011, 17:32:24

Having a good missile stock keep double tappers away :)

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Rockman

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Nov 28th 2011, 17:48:59

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Having a good missile stock keep double tappers away :)

Reminder to self: get lots of SDI, then double tap KoHeartsGPA.

KoHeartsGPA

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Nov 28th 2011, 17:52:05

Haha,get Tanks too!

jabberwocky

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Nov 28th 2011, 22:26:37

Originally posted by JJ23:

i dont grab someone who has a decent amt of warfare tech + say, over 10 missiles on hand. im sure there are other players here who will do the same

its just not worth it.

They might not have it when you attack, but a double tap could motivate them to start stocking missiles for a future retal, especially if you are in the top 10.

crest23

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Nov 28th 2011, 22:43:00

What jfotouhi said.

Just imagine a big country that has doule/triple/quad tapped people all set long. And then tey decide to connive and get you bad in the final week. That would be a sight to behold. I remember a country from last set with about 60 missiles. I don't care how much SDI you think you have, if afew of such countries ganged up on you, your set is over.

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Mr.Silver

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Nov 28th 2011, 22:55:38

are there any limits on what constitutes a 'double tap'

ie: if you hit a country 3 days in.. and again 3 weeks later, is that still a double tap?

lol, I can barely remember what I was doing 10 minutes ago, let alone who I grabbed on this server a week + back heh

jabberwocky

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Nov 28th 2011, 22:56:28

and switch to D, you need a ton of SDI to get even to 80% protection (750k for a non-D country of 50k acres). I don't fancy spending a billion on tech, when you could get 5 times the NW gain spending it elsewhere.

jabberwocky

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Nov 28th 2011, 23:00:00

it covers the whole set unfortunately. Attacking 5 times every 20hrs for 30 days straight, i find it hard not to overlap. All you need to do is stay over 4 times their networth and you're good!

jabberwocky

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Nov 29th 2011, 6:15:32

My point was it costs a ton to buy SDI, and even at high percentages missiles still get through. The cost of not double tapping may be less than that. But ya, if you've already committed several double taps or have not joined GDI, then getting SDI is essential.

I know in express you can't join GDI if you've attacked, i think it's the same in primary, which would be kinda lame.

Grendel

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Nov 29th 2011, 18:11:30

Back to the double tap point.....

Is it classed as a double tap if your first strike against your enemy fails?

crest23

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Nov 29th 2011, 18:13:11

Yes.

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Serpentor

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Nov 29th 2011, 18:29:05

Speaking of double taps, I cannot believe that #1 ranked non GDI Republic hasn't been suicided yet for his multiple quad taps all over the board. Let's see how long he can keep it up for. lol

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jabberwocky

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Nov 29th 2011, 18:53:19

most of those countries are too small to hit him back now that his NW is so high, thanks to those humanitarians. Though without GDI he certainly will make a tempting target for random missiles.

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Nov 29th 2011, 19:23:39

It may get harder to remain 4x their size as time goes on. Or it may get easier, not really sure

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

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Nov 29th 2011, 20:37:07

Originally posted by Mr.Silver:

Depends,some consider it DT if you hit twice the same set,so..its a risky toss up move to hit same guy 2x in same set,if it happens to me and its couple of weeks apart,i just brush it off and try to get my land back,if it happens every week i get pissed off :D

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Nov 29th 2011, 20:37:47

Originally posted by Serpentor:

Speaking of double taps, I cannot believe that #1 ranked non GDI Republic hasn't been suicided yet for his multiple quad taps all over the board. Let's see how long he can keep it up for. lol

He hasnt hit me yet...

oldman

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Nov 30th 2011, 11:58:04

I was tempted today to double tap, but I resisted my urge. Would have let everything gone to waste if I had succumbed to temptation.

crest23

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Nov 30th 2011, 12:22:22

Originally posted by oldman:

I was tempted today to double tap, but I resisted my urge. Would have let everything gone to waste if I had succumbed to temptation.

The urge will come back. Again and again. Pretty soon, you will have no option but to DT.

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crest23

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Nov 30th 2011, 12:24:46

I will not do it myself though. Although if I see the right things in play I have been known to throw caution to the winds (paid dearly for it most of the time too).

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oldman

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Nov 30th 2011, 12:25:22

JJ: yes I do know that. Would just like to maintain my silly persistence, to finish the game without double tapping and see how I end up. But I already did once, accidentally. lol

oldman

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Nov 30th 2011, 12:31:10

Go check my news, but it was 14 days apart.

Rockman

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Nov 30th 2011, 13:42:11

Originally posted by crest23:

Originally posted by oldman:

I was tempted today to double tap, but I resisted my urge. Would have let everything gone to waste if I had succumbed to temptation.

The urge will come back. Again and again. Pretty soon, you will have no option but to DT.

Not true. Double tapping will never be necessary.

crest23

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Nov 30th 2011, 14:51:21

lol

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blid

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Nov 30th 2011, 16:08:57

Originally posted by oldman:

I was tempted today to double tap, but I resisted my urge. Would have let everything gone to waste if I had succumbed to temptation.

Some countries are begging to be double tapped. I can tell they want me to double tap them because they have not only low defense but also no def allies. I try to 1x everyone else, but I don't have the heart to say no to these poor needy guys.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Rockman

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Nov 30th 2011, 16:13:49

Originally posted by oldman:

JJ: yes I do know that. Would just like to maintain my silly persistence, to finish the game without double tapping and see how I end up. But I already did once, accidentally. lol

89 attacks on 88 different countries. Thats pretty impressive. You've failed 3 grabs, though. Shame on you.

P.S. if I jinx myself and fail a grab now, I blame you. Even though its not your fault.

BobbyATA

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Nov 30th 2011, 16:40:45

heh with all this dumbing it down they are doing for us, it'd be nice if they warned you if you are about to hit someone for the second time in a reset=)...

Mr.Silver

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Nov 30th 2011, 17:32:27

so... lets say you grab someone and they retal you x2.

If you retal their over retal, they can then suicide you?

Rockman

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Nov 30th 2011, 17:37:20

Originally posted by Mr.Silver:

so... lets say you grab someone and they retal you x2.

If you retal their over retal, they can then suicide you?

Thats correct. If someone overretals you, then you are given access to AB & harmful spy ops. At a minimum you should buy more tanks than they can get & sabotage all their missiles, if you plan on hitting them a 2nd time. You also might want to PS them and then AB them.

jabberwocky

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Nov 30th 2011, 21:19:02

Originally posted by BobbyATA:

heh with all this dumbing it down they are doing for us, it'd be nice if they warned you if you are about to hit someone for the second time in a reset=)...

no kidding, i just tried to buy troops on the public market, and it bought it from my private instead because the price was better. thanks game.

blid

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Nov 30th 2011, 21:24:28

I think THAT at least has been like that forever.

there's a setting to change that in preferences under the main menu country screen though

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

jabberwocky

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Nov 30th 2011, 22:27:55

when people start actually buying SDI, more will show up on the market. It is still a fairly unpopular tech atm (more people buy military strat)

nanwich

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Dec 2nd 2011, 0:04:42

Thanks, all. Ir's not clear that GDI will really buy me anything, but the #1 guy seems to think I'm a land farm, so I'll try it.

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Dec 2nd 2011, 0:08:34

Get it free,don't need to buy it,gather bonus points :)

crest23

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Dec 2nd 2011, 0:24:04

Originally posted by nanwich:

Thanks, all. Ir's not clear that GDI will really buy me anything, but the #1 guy seems to think I'm a land farm, so I'll try it.

Getting the GDI will not protect you from his farming.

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Reroll

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Dec 2nd 2011, 1:59:19

No one seems to go heavy on jets this reset. Otherwise we should see some land exchanging within #1 and other country.

herbs12

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Dec 2nd 2011, 3:01:34

Yes nanwich gdi will not help you in anyway. You have a few options fight back or do nothing and that's really about it.

blid

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Dec 2nd 2011, 4:11:01

no rain has been doing a lot of topfeeding. Could see it.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

blid

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Dec 2nd 2011, 19:12:21

Ouch, Nico Robin just hit him again.

He's made 2 grabs this set. Back To December and Back To December. :X

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

KoHeartsGPA

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Dec 2nd 2011, 19:15:16

LOL!

jabberwocky

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Dec 2nd 2011, 19:20:56

that's funny, i wonder if he'll get retalled? I don't get that attack, why not hit a commie? Now he's got like 4.5k of acres to build up of IC all at once

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Dec 2nd 2011, 19:37:46

Yup,bells are ringn!