Weird, when he got deleted I assumed there must have been evidence against him.

Your all talking about me here so you can say my name. I already said earlier I was playing that country.

Here is what happened galleri deleted me for what she seen was coordination, breaking rules. I appealed the situation and explained my side of the events. She went though it all and removed my deletion.

However for the rest I will state this I did not cheat never pre arranged these events not coordinated those hits. Never cheated or broke any rules or attempted to try and invalidate my country in the primary community.

Yes Crest I do play in Rd and "mr titanium" wasn't Seth or tits playing that. He Isisnt even playing primary this set I do not know who that player is or what his intentions were.

Even if you look at the news it looks questionable but in between all the hitting. He destroyed 2800 buildings hit me and my allies and misseled them. Had a big spal and alot of tech and was holding missels and doing harmful spy ops.

It was not all just roses and free land in my case. The other commie player people are calling into question I don't know about him. All I know in my case it was turning into a war which I was preparing for to kill him.

I talked to LATC about this and was planning on saving turns. I think he also was perhaps thinking of trying to kill this character for going after him also. This was a couple days ago before the deletion.

I just think its easier to ask in the future instead of jumping right to ridiculous accusations. I can see perhaps if there is a history of circumstances or past events which would lead you to assume. But for as long as I have been playing this game across multiple servers I have never nor been acussed Untill now.

So you got deleted just based on the news? But #90 didn't?

Yikes! You play in RD? That's probably why she deleted you, lol. Plus, it seems a lot of top countries have tech leeches and other shady things going on. Wierd set. Wonder why the wannabetit was deleted then.

Prolly for having 0 D, like how bloodstone was but none of the countries hitting it were. Too much mod intervention going on.. and not in the right places!

Yes, I was playing in Neo when we folded as a clan into RD a couple sets ago.

Sounds reasonable, I pegged you for a MONSTERS or Omega kind of guy.

I guess #90 hasn't hit the right person yet? :)

all the top indies are just farming away...

#90 - 18 hits on #269 (9310 acres); plus various other multi taps on inactive countries (3 hits on #167, 2 hits on #143)

#191 - 10 hits #143 (5048 acres); 6 hits on #103 (2866 acres); 26 hits on #163 (13193 acres)

#31 - 5 hits on #32 (15275 acres).

Err #191 has never hit #167..

yeah typo, I meant #143.

Yeah this set is a disaster, a giant trainwreck of questionable antics

A few countries being deleted and then reinstated...

Mods should make their minds up and either delete the country or leave the country alone.

#90 is the worst, if I can drag my busted ass garbage country out of the gutter I'll be sure to top feed him repeatedly. I can't, though.

I deleted 90 today. Sorry I spaced it. Someone should of nudged me on irc. As for 269 he is actually retalling in a different way to all the countries hitting him, with harmful ops. Why I don't know....

I restore countries after speaking with the player and I make the decision. I don't sit there and go "oh nevermind teehee". Thanks for asking.

Palemoon i was looking for you on irc... I am still am.

This was less exciting than I was hoping for. :P

Hey galleri, what was Viva's reason when asked you to reinstate him? If he had the balls to ask.

umm?? I haven't restored him.......
I have only restored herbs and one other which was not Viva

Well, if he's really doing serious spy op retals then #90 wasn't getting free land. Not sure I buy it, but in that case it wouldn't be cheating.

Unless he went after everyone except 90. Who knows.

@galleri, I'm asking if viva bothered protesting the deletion.

Steal tech retals aren't much - it's the bomb building retals that hurt.

Well yeah I was assuming bomb structures, if I was farming someone for thousands of acres and all they did was steal tech back then uh.

90's still alive!

What's all this talk about him being deleted?

well, apparently he's being retaled by #269 via spy ops. A mixture of stir rebellion, bomb airbases, tech stealing and some bomb structures or so I was told. Guess he's just lucky to have received only this form of retaliation for 18 tapping.

Guess he's just lucky to have an incompetent moderator evaluate his game play.

That's a "h"euglaf.

All this time and he's never produced a missile or what

Why would you missile your mates and risk destroying the land you've donated to them?

Real bros don't grab each other to begin with!

This reset is just stupid.

Yes and but can we confirm that missiles do NOT affect ghost DR, but only country:country DR? Posted this a bit up and no one commented

as far as I understand, missiles don't impact DR at all (all types of DR), but I'm not 100% sure.

Hmm, I remember hitting after an ally of mine missiled the hell out of him and I got 0 ghost acres. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure, if the same country send missiles before his PSes, he will get no ghost acres.

country:country ghost DR like i said, natches

2013-10-04 01:33:09 PS The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 2322A (2322A)
2013-10-04 01:32:01 NM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 1258A
2013-10-04 01:29:11 EM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 44881MU
2013-10-04 01:29:10 EM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 44921MU
2013-10-04 01:29:08 EM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 44959MU
2013-10-04 01:28:47 EM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 44999MU
2013-10-04 01:28:40 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 650B 29334 C
2013-10-04 01:28:39 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 676B 33717 C
2013-10-04 01:28:38 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 706B 38755 C
2013-10-04 01:28:37 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 734B 44546 C
2013-10-04 01:28:36 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 765B 51202 C
2013-10-04 01:28:35 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 796B 58853 C
2013-10-04 01:28:33 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 829B 67648 C
2013-10-04 01:28:31 CM The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) Bloodstone (#242) 864B 68004 C
2013-10-03 14:36:34 PS Bloodstone (#242) The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) 1118A (1201A)
2013-10-03 14:36:04 PS Bloodstone (#242) The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) 1254A (1471A)
2013-10-03 14:35:46 SS Bloodstone (#242) The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) 1156A (1443A)
2013-10-03 14:35:24 SS Bloodstone (#242) The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) 1283A (1785A)
2013-10-03 14:35:00 SS Bloodstone (#242) The Cloaked is fat and jolly (#167) 1450A (2144A)
2013-10-02 13:57:54 PS Bloodstone (#242) Chibua (#43) 686A (1245A)

Well #58 did make his move, but not on who we expected...

Wow galleri, use your effing brain. How can you keep #90 and #269 around? Here are some facts to ponder:

-#90 hits #269 18x unprovoked for 9k+ acres and #269 does nothing back, at least nothing on news.

-I double tap #269 for 1000 acres and he unleashes 19 missileson me.

-#269 clearly is not a n00b and knows what he's doing. Yet according to oldman his retalliation on #90 included stir rebellions. I'd like to know the count of how many of each op #269 did on #90.

-#269 had 19 missilies on hand. I had 30+% SDI, #90 has 1.54% and yet #269 decides to 1) never attempt to fire a missile at #90 and 2) fire all his missiles at me.. over a double tap vs an 18x tap.

L oh freaking L. I spied #269 just for fun yesterday to see if he had missiles and saw those 19 missiles and was able to conclude yeah, this is bullfluff. Sucks but then again you were leeching from two techers so can't say I mind.

it's kind of funny to me that we're 45 days into the reset and theres still a guy named MOTHER fluffN whatever old meme and nobodys changed it yet.

As for the 'tech stealing' retal argument, it might be that high SPAL commie doing it, not even the guy getting farmed.

I am not accusing anyone, but it isn't always the one you expect that's doing it...

How is #79 able to missile #209? Can you steal tech/bomb banks while in GDI? I didn't think so.

Yes

Yes a GDI country can steal tech, but doing so breaks GDI. Look at the same #79 and #18 from earlier in the reset. If you steal tech - some will retal heavily.

You'll find out who it is at the end of the reset, when you go back and view your past reset's country news.

#18 is NOT in GDI though, but good to know.

Easy to find out who is stealing your tech by just trying to send special attacks against every country.

No crest he did not. He normally never appeals.

An update: I am talking to martian about this 269/90 thing. I have decided that I need a second mod to look at this.

based on various requests I had a second look. Please remember that you can't see everything in the news feed in terms of other things done with turns (like spy ops etc).
Doing a complete news/turn search on 90 and 169 and seeing everything done to and by 90 to and by everyone it seems pretty clear to me that 90 and 269 are NOT coordinating.
As always, if additional information comes to light on this or on any other circumstance please feel free to report it to galleri or bring it up with me directly.

++martian.

I guess we'll all have a better idea once the reset ends.

#191 deleted for the second time!