What do you feel like war should look like?

You’ve been actively at war, arguably suiciding at times, against a certain subset of the game during potentially some of the most detrimental changes to the game that essentially eliminates their meta!

I mean cmon dog, I’m one of the ones that plays both sides and we are rare, but toxic folks exist on all sides and only a fool would say it’s not mutual.

War and politics are essential to this game, period. It’s why we are all still here. If this was bot farm zilla in 2011 this game would have never survived. You just chose to align with LaF so everyone else has been mean to you because no one likes LaF.

That’s your bad bro, you gotta fix your politics.

Lol YOU WERE JUST HERE LIKE 2 YEARS AGO.

We all know you already liked this meta lol.

You can say it’s not a thread for argument as much as you want. Making disingenuous statements about people tho, and expecting them not to argue with you is actually insane tho. I’m a war dog on this server and I would specifically come back, and more importantly, start paying again. So at least change your zero to a one. Stop with the conjecture bud, and you’ll receive no arguments.

There’s solidly a difference between “game ending” and “LaF ending” TC. LaF has 18 total members and the 40 plus war dogs leaving was clearly worse for player retention than actually completely eliminating LaF twice. It might be game ending for you guys, but I suspect there’s a middle ground where no meta gets priority and we do our best to retain players of all types. That’s where the solution lies and if those 18 people can’t deal with it, it’s far less of an issue than the 3x LaF membership level including myself that quit playing and more specifically quit paying. It’s likely only 6-8 LaF members actually pay for premium. That’s hardly a loss at all. “Game ending” is a little extreme. 8 people is a small fraction of the whole community.

I’ll use my post to echo Auk. Option 3 and allowing a full turn save (72 hours) is the best route with the surrender option only being available after 5-7 days or 2 weeks of war.

That all said, I think a combination of 2&3 is necessary at this point to both fix IRC and to debug clanGDI. And if only one answer works, I think the obvious answer is 2. Fixing the broken stuff would be my main priority.

You guys wanna fight a liberal today but I voted for John McCain and KoH and I are maybe the only folks who talked about it (because he didn’t vote for McCain btw and called The Maverick a war criminal lol). You’re not fighting a social justice warrior, you’re fighting a conservative who doesn’t like the n word.

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I’ll use it to reiterate that there ought to be a line tho. Never been against the jokes,in fact, my jokes about pedophelia and such make KoH laugh hard. People here, however, struggle with those jokes because they have children. It’s different, I think, when you don’t have the people in your life you’re oppressing.

It’s good you guys eliminated “those people,” but I will continuously challenge you on it. I’ll lose and have no support and I don’t care because I am stoic in my beliefs. Stuff like that is wrong. Period.

Tried to type a hypothetical here and failed so I’ll do literal. And mind you, this is literal:

If someone says “go pick cotton you f1-king ni—er” I don’t necessarily think that the player who quit left the game for the wrong reasons, and I also don’t feel like we shouldn’t talk about it. Literally watched it happen and literally watched a player quit the game because he didn’t have support defending himself.

I actually think it’d be very adult of us to address it.

It’s not about the horrible tribulations of being a white man being so hard. It’s actually just about not wanting anyone who says fluff like that around me. Very simple.

Like, all this boomer conversation is correct, you guys are right. But don’t you have a line? Sheesh.

Dudes like you should realize, cath, you’re the reason we can’t have funny race jokes anymore, because you dudes are serious and it makes the whole thing not funny.

I think “cut it out unless your intention is to be funny” ought to be a very easy line. But there ought to be a line at all.

You mean Kramer? I was literally recommending Doug Stanhope sets with Alex Jones very recently. Big difference between comedy and bigotry. Also very unfortunate people struggle with that difference. I like funny things, just dislike hateful things. There’s a difference.

You ever notice Benjamin Netanyahu has a Philly accent? Man says wooder instead of water and people for some reason think he’s foreign lol.

Might be more noticeable because I live around that accent, but he’s clearly a Philadelphian.

Told you BH. Some folks ain’t worth it, and are also a losing battle.

For what it’s worth I hope those acres are outside of West Virginia for whatever reason.

I’m certain I have more annual income and respect from people than that guy, and funny enough, I can only thank earth folk for it. I spent years and years of my life homeless and honestly earth peeps harvested me out of it and paid to make me successful.

Did you know Trump, W Bush and Clinton were all born within 6 weeks of each other in the summer of 1946? I think he’s kinda one of those. Biden is even 1942 and you can tell how he’s slightly different not having done the summer of love. We just sorta have to wait for them to die to quit fluffing the world up. I’ll leave roses on his grave and pray for him but I surely won’t speak because I have few positive things to say. And if I was him, I’d be bummed out that my legacy is being thought of as the bigot everyone defended in an online game.

Life is short, and he’s missing out on great people to deliver his eulogy lol.

Anyways, I’m a Christian and I hope your health is well sui. I mean it too. I know your “Christian values” never made you give a fluff about me, but the book says to be better than the worst you know, so I aspire at least to be less of a fluffhead racist sexist POS than you, god bless. At least I learned goalposts from the game.

For sure the culture wars are as much a war of class with the intention of keeping similarly poor people divided as anything. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. If all poor people were united, it’d be extremely difficult to keep them all poor, so wars of culture over race, religion (ie abortion rights), gender, etc. tend to be continuously kept in the forefront, with the intention of keeping the poor fighting instead of uniting and fighting oppression together.

To me, that doesn’t excuse any behavior tho, and make things that increase those divides ok. People choose much of the path they take in life, and one can choose to avoid derision and negativity. Which again, is the actual point here. I know I’m not the one to bring everyone together singing Kumbaya. I just know I don’t like that stuff around me so I avoid people that are entrenched in beliefs that are divisive and even harmful.

I’m not telling anyone to change. I’m just explaining why I avoid certain folks. The question was “why doesn’t Derrick respond to certain people,” and this is my answer. I also tend to avoid conversation with people in my family with problematic and negative views of society they wish to share as well. It’s one way I’ve found to make my personal experience in life more positive, and prevent the cynicism that can cause depression and an inability to help elevate those around me. I can’t make oppression stop, and if I could, I’d be winning Nobel prizes instead of a few sets of Earth 2025 lol. I can, however, avoid some of its terrors. And that’s a choice.

I’m not painting anything any way. I’m saying people say racist fluff here regularly and I tend not to associate with it. That’s not a controversial statement. It’s a statement of fact. I wish I were the one bringing it up. I’m very much just a witness that doesn’t associate with certain people for, I think, obvious reasons.

Yeah there definitely isn't any third world people suffering because of racial inequality and whatnot, nah mean?

Cmon man. You even know that stuff should at least be frowned on and it's wild I'm the only one who says something.

Answer for yourself, bro. If a tree falls in the woods....

That hypothetical is as old as time. I think you're both intelligent and mature enough to know the answer. And you're intelligent and mature enough to know that's not what I'm talking about.

I mean. I'm sure some people are cool with the n word being dropped in chat by white folks and others aren't. I'm also not assuming certain clans don't do a better job with it than others. I can really only speak to the reasons Kendrick, DontMess and several others left the game, and my own personal opinion having witnessed it and finding it dispicable.

It's also hella ironic y'all jumped on that point and pointed out your 1 black friend. "I'm not racist, I have 1 black friend" is like a Meme lol. Either way. Man wanted history so I pointed out why I don't respond with certain people in the game. That's the main point. Again, I'm over having a convo with Sui about anything, for reasons related to people like Kenny and DM. That's why buch and I kinda don't fluff with each other either. I don't like that stuff around me.

If yall mean to make the point that it doesn't happen here, you're either purposely ignorant or objectively racist. My 2 cents.

I was in a chat for like 12 minutes talking to someone the other day and saw both racism and sexism in the whole 12 minutes I was there. It's extremely common. But like I said, it's a losing battle asking people not to do that fluff around me. I just get called a snowflake for it and people pile on. It's not like....fixable if I'm the only one who cares.

Was hoping you wouldn't burn me too bad Sui lol. Just wanted to say what most know haha.


How the fluff could that be possible, you're in LaF!?!?!?!? Just trolling HH. Happy Thanksgiving.