Mittens won that debate, but one wonders if that will matter after the last debate. Maybe it was a gambit play. It just seemed like obombs wasn't prepared for this.

It makes me want to watch Frost Nixon again.

Except that his ideas are half baked and never tested.

romney... memorized his closing statement.

Go.

Hunger Games?

i don't think ghost acres apply here. Iran's pacting isn't as good as Israel's so they can bottomfeed a bit as long as Iran's Warfare tech is low and they don't have any CM or NM.

get your sdi up.

so like, demo farmer to reseller? rep farmer to tmbr?

Seems like the demo resellers won this set.

alliance

What strat? How could I do this?

turn by turn? why not just day by day?

confirmed

wind and solar are good too... but im not against nuclear power either.

Per capita doesn't mean anything, by the way. Our net usage is still very much below what America uses. I don't condone my government's every decision, but I have to give credit where credit is due, Saskatchewan GREW during the world economic recession.

Finally, it CANNOT be denied that coal is a dirty source of power. My original premise. You can deflect all you like, coal is a dirty power source. Maybe I'll say it again, coal is a dirty power source. I wonder if you'll admit that...

and i don't like it.

we've only got 3 coal power stations out of 20, the largest producer, "Boundary Dam Power Station" integrated Carbon Capture and Storage Demonstration Project is a $1.4 billion project to retrofit the coal-fired unit 3 with carbon capture and an enhanced oil recovery system. The project when complete is expected to result in 1 million tonnes/year reduction in CO2 emissions.

Something else that must be kept in mind is that Saskatchewan has just barely over 1 million people in it... negligible in terms of power usage.

While it's true that coal is still a really dirty fuel source, at least Saskatchewan is doing something to limit the carbon footprint.

Anything else you fluffing Klown?

your wife or you have been researching trips with that computer... yes?

People still use coal? Mother of god that's dirty energy... Do you live in China or something?

It's a billion dollar industry for fertilizer. Saskatchewan can mine it for 2000 years and not run out. The higher wages are $40/hour... of course these are all before your benefits. Health, pension, and company stocks. That's a union job, btw... so i doubt you want it.

You'll need to move to a place that ignored the global recession, the only place in north america that saw economic growth, saskatchewan, canada. Where the fields go on forever, the potash industry is exploding (24 dollars an hour starting wage), and the dollar is worth more than the american dollar. Say what you want about canada being the little brother of the states... But here we get it done.

Its true. At a certain point obama has responsibility for the country. He inherited a lot of problems which are now his. He tried to do a lot... And most of was blocked by congress... So if you want to say that he's done nothing, now you know why.

And there goes buch with his assumptions again. I haven't been laid off for 6 years for the winter. -40 degrees, blizzards, whatever, work through it. The hours get shortened during the winter to a mere 8 hours a day down from 12 a day during the summer and spring... But that's still full time. Anything else?

Cabrito... don't be obtuse. You moan about the deficit yet you like spending trillions of dollars on the war? You've got to be kidding me.

As for your work hours being cut, that's not Obama's fault either. Your economy fell apart due to the Clinton/Bush financial deregulation measures. Obama is just picking up the pieces... or at least trying to with a Congress who's ONLY goal is to make sure Obama doesn't get a second term. The Republicans SAID they wouldn't cooperate with him... and you want to vote for them? Children...

Where I come from people who work for pig farmers make mad stacks of gluten free cash. If the owner of that pig farm isn't paying 20 then you're getting jacked.

As for the assumption that I've never been out of the city... Again, where I come from there is nothing close to the size of city you are talking about. I grew up in a town of 500 and moved to a city of 200000 when I was 18. Now I'm in construction making 24$ an hour with tons of overtime. So I guess you'd better move.

Buch... I simply can't believe that you're saying these things seriously. You MUST be joking.

Have you ever worked on a pig farm? $11 an hour is not enough to work with pigs. You say it like it's a walk in the park. I won't deny that this generation of Americans is filled with entitlement, but that doesn't make $11 an hour on a hog farm acceptable. $20 an hour, minimum for that job.

I believe that you have no idea what you're talking about and are part of that 47% Romney intends to do nothing for. Not that you'll vote for Obama... but that you don't make $250k+ and therefore he will stomp on your grapes until they bleed. But... you will ask for more.

Did you vote for bush the second time around too?

You gotta be careful what you say about mohammad even on THIS forum lest it get out and incite more riots.

John Oliver raised a good point... Islam is only 1400 years old... basically an adolescent teenager getting all violent. Do you know what Christianity was doing when it was 1400 years old? Crusades... Spanish Inquisition... So... give it another 500 years and everything will be much better.

The worst part of this is that this video came out with too much time between now and the election. Now the American voter has time to forget all of this stuff in time to vote for him.

Do I have permission to link that video again about a week before the election?

the caps lock adds extra class

You think you guys got it bad?

My ad says "meet older plushies with soiled diapers for free lemon parties."

i hate you google... im outed.

An unlitigated disaster. Title of a book that needs to be written.

thanks for the links CK. Ill make sure to read up on those so I can be a little more informed and give me a little more reason to be enraged by it. Why aren't you enraged? Clearly the outcome here was not optimal, not a one time thing... It was predicted before it happened and ignored. I guess there is less profit in playing safe.

Now I get to link some chomsky for you. If I gotta read, so do you.

The pipe was made of claytile. It's fairly brittle, 3 hits should break it. But I think they had a cutscene so as not to clutter the movie with small details such as hitting the pipe 100 times to make a perfect hole for himself. I think they achieved their goal in portraying that what he was doing was disgusting. =)

"The government..."forced" banks to make bad loans in the name of getting everyone in a home"

wow, really? The government forced banks to lend predatory mortgages? I will allow that there are a few in government who have their fingers in both pies and stand to scoop bonuses from the banks as "consultants" or whatever... but to say that the government created the conditions for this type of banking to occur "forces" the banks to lend in this way... that's crazy talk man.

Banks gave subprime loans to people who couldn't pay for if because the risk was off of their backs. Banks grouped all of these fluffty loans into Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) and sold them off as AAA rated investments. Banks got their money out of it without any risk. Banks gave their employees bonuses for giving people sub prime mortgages.

So, let me get this straight. The government forced banks to find a loophole like this? Give your head a shake. Nobody had to twist their arms to make billions of dollars... I'm pretty sure it was their idea. The rating agencies who should have monitored this were on the take. Any agency that was actually objective was stripped of manpower and authority to actually do anything... Thank Alan Greenspan and Larry Summers for that.

Lastly, I'm not talking about business regulation or industrial regulation or anything like that. If you've been following along you would know that I am talking about financial regulation... you know, the cause of your economic fallout.

Go read Ayn Rand or something.

Tanx, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think you might want to direct your explanation to the person who was arguing with me. =)

When I said clinton and bush deregulated the financial sector and created prosperity... I think I should have qualified that this was all very bad. Apologies.

Americans are afraid to go to the doctor because they are afraid of how much it will cost or that their insurance won't cover them (or their insurance will screw them over). This is the wrong way for a healthcare system to operate. If people can go to the doctor's office without these fears, they would go sooner if they thought something is wrong... they may get treatment for something serious that was caught earlier than if they found out they are stage 4 in some sort of cancer problem... and it would be much cheaper.

I'm not saying that Canada is perfect in this regard. In fact, we have the 30th best healthcare system in the world according to Businessinsider.com. America is 37th... after Saudi Arabia who is ranked 26th, Colombia at 22nd, Oman is 8th (have you heard of Oman?), and of course the French have the best healthcare system in the world.

The rankings are based on an index of five factors: health, health equality, responsiveness, responsiveness equality, and fair financial contribution.

This study was done in the year 2000. They were going to try to rerank everyone again in 2010 but too many of the right people were upset about it and nothing was studied or published on the matter.

They are ranked in large part according to how much the state spends per capita... America was ranked so poorly because they spent the MOST per person.

Please don't tell me you're happy with your healthcare system.

In France there is a law that the price of bread can never go over a certain price, so everyone can afford it and not starve. Sounds like a good idea to me.

"MASSIVE REGULATION DOES NOT HURT BIG BUSINESS NEARLY AS MUCH AS IT HURTS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? BECAUSE I AM ONE."

First of all, I didn't say what kind of regulation. I was actually referring to banking regulation, mortgage regulation, the trading of credit default swaps, and derivatives. If all of these things had been regulated like a sane country does (AKA Canada) you'd not be in such a mess right now. THAT sort of deregulation of your banking system with no checks and balances into fraudulent activity or predatory lending... you know, the activity that caused your mortgage crisis and the bailing out of the big banks (who still give themselves HUGE bonuses by the way) and have not changed their ways one bit... don't be surprised if this all happens again. Not to mention... nobody has gone to jail from wall street yet. Please tell me it bothers you that your money went to them. If you say it's alright, then I can call you a liar.

Um, more regulations HURT big business. Are you kidding me? If you can claim that it "can practically be documented as truth" I expect you to document some proof from an objective source.

Also, the government EXISTS for the purpose of having people depend on it. Are you kidding me? If poor people shouldn't rely on the government or be helped by the government, who else can they turn to? Businesses? Good will from fellow citizens?

Republicans want to eliminate a publicly available healthcare system and cut social security for the elderly... poor people should not vote for that.

Republicans want to tax the poor more so they have to work harder to pay their taxes... meanwhile taxing the rich less. Poor people should not vote for that.

Republicans want to cut all sorts of social programs that help poor people, like planned parenthood and anything to do with good education. Poor people should not vote for that.

BUT... they do. The bottom line is it sucks to be poor. And you guys got a lot of poor people in America... the government is gonna screw with you no matter what. But I would expect that the poor class would vote for a government who would screw with them the least... or vote at all.

Oh, get this. In some Republican states, they have made it required that you have photo id in order to vote to reduce voter fraud. How many homeless people do you know who have drivers license or photo id? mmmhmmm

that's interesting...

i agree wholeheartedly.

Watch Inside Job... an excellent documentary on this.

I work in water and sewer pipe installation. I believe I can answer this question for you. Nobody's house, commercial building, industrial building, or any other place where people work or live have pressurized sewer lines, especially in the 40's. Back then, it was rare to even have steel pipes as sewer lines. It was either wood or clay tile (clay tile was more common by that time). Being clay tile, you WOULD be able to break the sewer line open with a rock (steel you wouldn't have been able to at all) but there's no way sewer would have shot out of the pipe in that way... otherwise it would have kept shooting up and not subsided like it did.

Now, I'm definitely not saying that no sewer lines are ever pressurized, because every city has forcemains and lift stations which are pressurized in order to move sewer from low points to sewer treatment plants. I mean, it cant all be gravity fed... can you imagine the grade on your pipe if it was all gravity fed? impossible for even small cities. BUT, forcemains are never connected to houses or buildings other than pump lift stations and sewer treatment plants.

=)

I think it's hilarious that people think Romney is the solution to anything...

zippity doo da- Pierce Hawthorne

I think that this quotation from the original poster is faulty: "People will always vote for their own self interest, which is an expanded state providing more and more benefits."

This is not true if you actually take a look at what's going on in America today. Media plays a large part in providing "information" also known as misinformation, convincing middle american red state voters that "job creators" have shared interests with them. I mean, take a look at how the Tea Party was so angry about Entitlement taxes... so middle class/lower class voters were angry about and Entitlement tax that only affects those who are really rich. This kind of thing is paradoxical. Any lower class voter who votes for the Republicans is actually voting against their fiscal advantage. This cannot be denied.

the media plays a large part in how people vote... it is the voice of politics. If things are getting slightly better for Americans as a whole (in truth) but the media says things are getting worse (untruth) then you have people who are misinformed and vote one way because some hot blonde milf on tv told them to.