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May 2nd 2024, 7:29:22

Originally posted by Sov:
Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Originally posted by Sov:


In fact I know that Mercs alone has at least 5 players you wouldn’t be able to kill even if you had every single member in the warchat with full turns. Yes they are that good.



Wrong.


Please enlighten us with your warring experience.


Just to be clear, Josey is not in Paradigm :)

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May 2nd 2024, 2:54:44

Originally posted by tazbot:
Originally posted by Symbolic:
Too much drama over nothing at pdm. Lol you guys need to war or something.


Yes, that's the idea. We'll be FSing the Paradigm tag two weeks from now. But don't tell them.

Or maybe it was the PDM tag, I forget.

PS: Paradigm/PDM has a lot of great people with its best interests at heart, watch us become stronger than ever


Maan! you ruined the supa sekret 1 tank AB FS on ourselves!!!

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May 2nd 2024, 2:53:46

Originally posted by Sov:
Originally posted by Drow:

agreed on no current era warring experience, though I resemble the no credible war leaders remark, even if it has admittedly been many, many years since I was an active HoW.
we do currently count multiple former PDM HoW's in our ranks though.


Perhaps I phrased that incorrectly, credible war leaders with recent warring experience. Anyone you may have would not have warred seriously in a long long time and warring is very different in the current era.


You are correct in that regard.


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May 2nd 2024, 2:51:43

he's getting a twofer ;)


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May 2nd 2024, 1:12:50

Originally posted by Sov:

Originally posted by Josey Wales:

And the rest of you freighter class rejects should thank him for not letting the Dogs off the chain.

PDM had the numbers and we could have ripped all of you Termites apart, set after set, for years.

You know who kept you safe from us?


Originally posted by Josey Wales:

Doug- you should have let us tear this Server to shreds.


Cute…but seeing as though PDM has no current era warring experience and no credible war leaders, I doubt you would be able to defeat one of the warring alliances let alone all of them. 2013 warring tactics won’t cut it.

In fact I know that Mercs alone has at least 5 players you wouldn’t be able to kill even if you had every single member in the warchat with full turns. Yes they are that good.


agreed on no current era warring experience, though I resemble the no credible war leaders remark, even if it has admittedly been many, many years since I was an active HoW.
we do currently count multiple former PDM HoW's in our ranks though.

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May 1st 2024, 15:08:28

And again, tAN hits the nail on the head!

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May 1st 2024, 15:07:08

Originally posted by EmpyreanMKR:
Please stop Drow.
You have to stop this. You cant tag up with a silent Q.

This is ridiculous.


I think you're short some P's there, I told you 14 P's and a silent Q!!!

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May 1st 2024, 13:22:15


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May 1st 2024, 13:20:52

Originally posted by Tertius:
I always appreciate the (informative) drama posts. You're welcome here, TAN!


That's why he is the Paradigm official AT troll ;)

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May 1st 2024, 13:01:21

Originally posted by Coalie:
I’m glad to see Sleepy Drow finally woke up and spanked Grima Wormdoug!


It's all about second breakfast, and elevenses!!!

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May 1st 2024, 11:47:38

Isn't it a 2 door car?

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May 1st 2024, 11:46:59

Happy birthday to the pair of yas :)

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May 1st 2024, 11:25:27

Originally posted by BlackHole:
So Leto recruited drow to his server bullying efforts, and now they are seeking to trash doug?


This is all very weird.


No one recruited me to anything.

I have acted, as President, in what I believe to be Paradigm's best interest.

Doug put himself in a position where he is no longer tenable as a leader, and I have acted on that.

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May 1st 2024, 3:31:54

Originally posted by Sov:
And you feel this is worthy of telling the entire server?

I appreciate that at least you are providing some much needed activity to AT, but I fail to see how this thread and the airing of any grievances publicly benefits your Alliance.


tAN has hit it pretty well on the head.
We have been trying to avoid the drama, but, we are taking right of response in this case, given that doug has come here publicly to make a post making allegations about conspiracies.

In terms of recruiting, Paradigm has actually been one of the more active alliances doing so the last few sets.
We have been putting significant energy into recruiting, which is why so many old Paradigm faces are about.

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Apr 30th 2024, 16:32:49

Originally posted by EmpyreanMKR:
So many paradigms


Para-ception!!

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Apr 30th 2024, 15:38:29

tAN is the official Paradigm AT Troll ;)

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Apr 30th 2024, 15:33:35

Thank you Jouster.
It is greatly appreciated.

Paradigm thanks those who have offered their support to us.

We did not want this situation, but we will work with what we have.

Much love.

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Apr 30th 2024, 15:32:09

no doug.

I did not make the PDM tag Paradim intentionally. it was a legitimate typo.

I originally had no intent of any of this happening.

Leto and I did not plan anything.

You pushed me to breaking point, and I walked.

I have told all PDM members they are welcome in the Paradigm tag.

Further, that we will not launch any hostile actions on those who choose to remain PDM.

We will not ask any alliances who have signed pacts with PDM to break those pacts, as that would be bad faith, and we do not operate that way.

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Apr 29th 2024, 13:55:23

Drow will continue to speak his mind.
Have no fear of that ;)

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Apr 29th 2024, 13:16:57

more accurately, I should have titled this PDM announcement

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Apr 29th 2024, 12:51:47

As of now, I am no longer president of doug's PDM.
Please direct all contact to doug and Happy.
Regards
Drow

Edited By: Drow on May 1st 2024, 3:32:47
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Apr 29th 2024, 11:30:06

oh man, cathankins, your twists of logic are hilarious.

you suicided on evo and got killed and blame superfly, someone who has nothing to do with evo, for doing so.

then claim "bullying" when evo's pacted allies do what pacted allies do, and come to their aid.

meantime, you attempt to tell Evo that if they don't kill superfly, you'll keep suiciding on them.

Who is actually the bully here?
The person choosing to attack a third party unrelated to the initial issue, in a half assed attempt to try and force them to do the dirty work, or the alliances who are standing up for their friends?

Honestly, the only difference, is that unlike most real life bullies, you're just really bad at it.




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Apr 29th 2024, 1:12:55



New theme song for Leto ;)

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Apr 29th 2024, 0:38:54


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Apr 29th 2024, 0:15:36

Originally posted by TAN:
On behalf of cult leader Drow, all your land are belong to us.


All their base are belong to us!!

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Apr 28th 2024, 13:37:55

Beta males?

is that a Furry thing, or a fish thing?
I'm curious...

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Apr 28th 2024, 13:35:29

couple of people decided to suicide on Evo, and evo's allies came to their defence.
Blackhole ticked off Jouster, and Jouster made him dead in return.


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Apr 27th 2024, 8:29:19

Originally posted by Coalie:
Drow it saddens me to see that you are making backdoor deals with bhole. Didn’t bhole and Doug backdoor each other? Look at what happened.


Ive kept my dealings with BlackHole very public. And come down to: "play clean, leave Paradigm alone, and we don't have to spend the rest of the set killing you"

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Apr 26th 2024, 12:23:50

Important information:
tAN is head of fluff
that is all.
Carry on!

Drow
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Apr 26th 2024, 12:19:33

Originally posted by BlackHole:
How do you know I played clean on the restarts?


you didn't get deleted in alliance again for the rest of the set, and you made an agreement with me publicly to play clean and not hit PDM in return for a DNH.
Are you saying that you chose to cheat anyway?

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Apr 26th 2024, 11:45:02

He ran multis on teams.
He was proven clean in alliance.
Yourself however, not so much, you got deleted yet again last set for multi running.
Yes, you played clean on the restarts after that deletion, which is why I have been as good as my word on not hitting you, but still.

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Apr 26th 2024, 11:41:48

But does he swallow, that's the important question!
*runs*

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Apr 26th 2024, 11:40:54

Fair :)
Good to see the tag back in the game ;)
I remember fighting both against and alongside yas way back in the day

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Apr 26th 2024, 7:08:01

genuinely an old TIE player, or just someone spam tagging?

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Apr 26th 2024, 4:05:15

Originally posted by TAN:
This may come as a shock to most of you, but I didn't list my country above, this is in fact mine:

The Arabian Nightmare (#481)

*surprise pikachu face*


Lies! That's my country!! 🤣

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Apr 26th 2024, 2:00:00

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
We did not attack you people.

Why did you attack us?


probably because you attacked someone they're pacted to?

That's how defensive pacts work...

If someone has an LDP or FDP with another alliance, and that alliance gets attacked, they come to their aid.
You should know this by now man.

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Apr 26th 2024, 1:56:59

Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by Drow:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Drow - I didn't delete any of my messages.


I think it's REALLY amusing you're accusing me of being a liar, or half-truth teller, when you know you are openly lying right now, haha.


And you're right, Leto did post in that screenshot! I hadn't realized he changed his name on the server. He's not super saiyan or whatever.


That's not the information I have.
You were getting into Leto as much as he was getting into you.

Can you re-word this final sentence....or did I just "TIL"?


Nah, I'll leave it like that, it's funnier

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Apr 26th 2024, 0:09:12

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Drow - I didn't delete any of my messages.


I think it's REALLY amusing you're accusing me of being a liar, or half-truth teller, when you know you are openly lying right now, haha.


And you're right, Leto did post in that screenshot! I hadn't realized he changed his name on the server. He's not super saiyan or whatever.


That's not the information I have.
You were getting into Leto as much as he was getting into you.

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Apr 26th 2024, 0:06:31

Did I forget to lock the spirit cabinet again?
That's tan's only spiritual leading around here 🤣

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Apr 25th 2024, 8:21:24

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Drow - I don't know why you're so determined to prove me a liar, when I've shown time and again to be honest.


Leto did delete his messages.... If you don't believe me, go through the chats on EE discord from that time yourself. You can see us talking to Leto, without his messages being there, lol.


You're gonna make yourself look bad bro. I don't tell lies.


You also don't tell the whole truth.
But that's OK, that's what AT is for after all

You also missed the part where you deleted a bunch of your own messages before taking your screenshot, in order to make things appear different to the original context.

I guess your desire to go after someone new since your "win" over milkman (got him deleted for multis in teams, demonstrated he was playing clean in alliance, whilst getting yourself deleted repeatedly) means you're happy to sink to any depth.

There's still a post by leto in your very screenshot tho 🤷‍♂️
Not my fault or problem if you can't see it.

Short form, if you give it out, be prepared to take it.

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Apr 24th 2024, 11:43:45

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Originally posted by Drow:
the whole problem with Josey's proposal, is that it assumes that no one will engage.
The sad reality is that people ALWAYS engage.
Further, that it gives drivel a veneer of legitimacy.

It is, as they say, the old paradox of tolerance.


I should have commented on this detail. You are correct Drow. People will always comment but ultimately TFMOIs will prevail and good will triumph over evil.

How long to you think people will engage with some, unless to rake them over the coals, if that person is engaged in racism?

That wouldn’t last long.


Except that TFMOI's don't prevail, nor does good triumph over evil.
we have example after example of this being the case.
If it did, Racism would no longer exist in any form.
nor would sexism.
nor would a massive number of problematic issues, because we would have reasoned them out of existence with TFMOI's (TM).

The reality is that the world simply doesn't work like that, much as we wish it did.

We still have neonazis in the world, who spout the crap Hitler espoused, and hail him as a hero, and people lap it up.
We have politicians who literally blame "dem others (insert chosen ethnic, religious, or other minority group here) " for basically everything, and they get swept into the one place they shouldn't be, power.
Because rational debate etc doesn't work. It requires both parties to be rational.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 10:39:07

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Two separate instances.


hahahahah - I tried to go pull the chat from Discord. Apparently old Leto is trying to cover his tracks, he deleted ALL his messages from that day. No worries though, you can tell from context with the way everyone reacted that he said some foul fluff about my wife.



https://imgur.com/a/ViQfOo5


You say Leto deleted all his messages from that day, and yet, funnily enough, there's one right there in the middle of your screenshot.
You slipped up yourself this time dude.
and there's no evidence, even from context, that anything was said, all of those comments could have been reactions to your own initial comment in the screenshot. Especially given that Empyrean is there telling you to calm down.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 10:31:16

Originally posted by archaic:
We had it at the MKR ES Site, not sure if anybody ever posted it on GT. If Comwood wanted to dig it up he could probably find it. Empyrean might also have a copy of it, I'll ask him when he arises from his most recent drunken stupor.


Sadly, ES is very, very dead.
If memory serves, having been around at the time of its final demise, there was basically a fatal hardware error which caused its end, and the data itself was lost, which was why Commy couldn't get it properly back on line.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 10:29:38

the whole problem with Josey's proposal, is that it assumes that no one will engage.
The sad reality is that people ALWAYS engage.
Further, that it gives drivel a veneer of legitimacy.

It is, as they say, the old paradox of tolerance.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 4:42:10

Originally posted by Sov:
Can’t use Discord because news is troublesome on that platform. For walling I use IRC highlights.


Going to admit, that whilst Milk's bot was still in our disc server, it was actually pretty consistent for the most part. there were admittedly occasions where it was behind, but mostly it was on point.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 2:18:46

milkman is not the leader of M4D though...
that would be Leto.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 2:17:30

Originally posted by Lord Milk:

wait, have we got our lines crossed here?
you seemed to be implying that Leto got kicked out of his alliance.
We removed Milkman for running multis in alliance, yes.



When did I run Multi's in alliance? cuz that never happened
Doug killed me in an attempt to appease Blackhole
I like you drow but lets air that out now


Poor wording:
we removed you from paradigm in alliance for being deleted for multis in teams.

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Apr 22nd 2024, 23:41:49

Originally posted by TAN:
Drow spells gud.

I DO speel gud! it's even in my forum sig!

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Apr 22nd 2024, 23:33:53

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Vic...

You're on the side of the suicides, lol. I am saying that we stand in opposition to the suicides and bullies.


You seem like a cool guy, welcome back! I think you might have gotten roped into a situation you didn't agree to though. Check with your leader Leto. He seems to be setting the stage to bully small clans like Stone and Rage, while being aided by the self proclaimed suicides with Josey and co.

Makes sense cause Josey and Leto go way back together in PDM.

It's a shame what they did to pdm, leaving it in shambles.


NA and PDM were besties for a long time. When we were getting gangbanged by SOL's coalition repeatedly, PDM were basically our only allies. So literally everyone in M4D goes way back with PDM.

Now that I think of it, is Pally still around?

Anyhow given the history I've laid out for you, I think you can appreciate that I am happy where I am right now and not willing to make any changes to my POV based on AT threads.

Related, if you don't know about it, find someone to fill you in on the sordid history of RD. Literally every tag is dirty, they infiltrated all of them and cheated inside them.

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Anyway, I will be ready for suiciders. That's been my job more sets than not in 1a, kill teams and retal teams. I don't like to stock and jump most sets so I get to deal with the JW&Cos of the world. I've only gotten t10 a few times and it's been ages.

So bring it, I guess?



VicRattlehead,

JW&CO has no intention of suiciding M4D. Not in the cards. End of story. Nor do we have any pacts with M4D.

That said, there is no reason why M4D shouldn’t cleanse the Server of viruses. With extreme prejudice.


Well that's good to know. Good luck in your fluff stirring then.


Palli is still around, still here in PDM man. pop by our discord sometime :)

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