I'm going off the info I have to hand /shrug

https://earthempires.com/...turned-52616?t=1714144946

Read Jouster's post from april 23rd.
You were given warning they were going to kill you for the set.
This is exactly what they said they were going to do, I don't know why you're surprised?

You prodded and pushed them, and continued to poke and prod, then when they act, declare them the bad guys?
um, ok, I guess?

Sometimes I wonder whether you are trying to compete with Cathankins for the oddest twists of logic on the server...

no, they said KFC

You have a whole swag of stuff wrong as usual Blackhole.
About 5 or 6 paradigm members went to M4D.

a few other former paradigmers, and a bunch of former NA players, came out of retirement and joined M4D as well.

(that's why M4D has 20 odd, and we have 20 in Paradigm.)

I have not kicked ANYONE out of Paradigm.
We resolved an internal leadership issue.

Yes, M4D are our brothers, between our former players who play there, and a bunch of the other guys who have come out of retirement that are friendly names, we get on well with them. It's called friends.

No, we are not planning to war anyone.

No, we are not close with Josey and co.
You may recall that Josey straight up threatened Paradigm this set at the end of last set.
It's disappointing, because Josey was a good member when he played back in paradigm many moons ago.

he and cathankins have decided to suicide on Evo, and mercs and sol are leaving them as vacant space as a result.

I think I have covered pretty much the entirety of your completely misinformed post.

Drow
Paradigm President.

Just to be clear, Josey is not in Paradigm :)

Maan! you ruined the supa sekret 1 tank AB FS on ourselves!!!

You are correct in that regard.

he's getting a twofer ;)

agreed on no current era warring experience, though I resemble the no credible war leaders remark, even if it has admittedly been many, many years since I was an active HoW.
we do currently count multiple former PDM HoW's in our ranks though.

And again, tAN hits the nail on the head!

I think you're short some P's there, I told you 14 P's and a silent Q!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2mbGP6vFI

That's why he is the Paradigm official AT troll ;)

It's all about second breakfast, and elevenses!!!

Isn't it a 2 door car?

Happy birthday to the pair of yas :)

No one recruited me to anything.

I have acted, as President, in what I believe to be Paradigm's best interest.

Doug put himself in a position where he is no longer tenable as a leader, and I have acted on that.

tAN has hit it pretty well on the head.
We have been trying to avoid the drama, but, we are taking right of response in this case, given that doug has come here publicly to make a post making allegations about conspiracies.

In terms of recruiting, Paradigm has actually been one of the more active alliances doing so the last few sets.
We have been putting significant energy into recruiting, which is why so many old Paradigm faces are about.

Para-ception!!

tAN is the official Paradigm AT Troll ;)

Thank you Jouster.
It is greatly appreciated.

Paradigm thanks those who have offered their support to us.

We did not want this situation, but we will work with what we have.

Much love.

Drow
Paradigm President

no doug.

I did not make the PDM tag Paradim intentionally. it was a legitimate typo.

I originally had no intent of any of this happening.

Leto and I did not plan anything.

You pushed me to breaking point, and I walked.

I have told all PDM members they are welcome in the Paradigm tag.

Further, that we will not launch any hostile actions on those who choose to remain PDM.

We will not ask any alliances who have signed pacts with PDM to break those pacts, as that would be bad faith, and we do not operate that way.

Drow
Paradigm President.

Drow will continue to speak his mind.
Have no fear of that ;)

more accurately, I should have titled this PDM announcement

As of now, I am no longer president of doug's PDM.
Please direct all contact to doug and Happy.
Regards
Drow

oh man, cathankins, your twists of logic are hilarious.

you suicided on evo and got killed and blame superfly, someone who has nothing to do with evo, for doing so.

then claim "bullying" when evo's pacted allies do what pacted allies do, and come to their aid.

meantime, you attempt to tell Evo that if they don't kill superfly, you'll keep suiciding on them.

Who is actually the bully here?
The person choosing to attack a third party unrelated to the initial issue, in a half assed attempt to try and force them to do the dirty work, or the alliances who are standing up for their friends?

Honestly, the only difference, is that unlike most real life bullies, you're just really bad at it.

New theme song for Leto ;)

https://youtu.be/...T0fWo?si=WyFfxjlmmVXcOTk2

All their base are belong to us!!

Beta males?

is that a Furry thing, or a fish thing?
I'm curious...

couple of people decided to suicide on Evo, and evo's allies came to their defence.
Blackhole ticked off Jouster, and Jouster made him dead in return.

Ive kept my dealings with BlackHole very public. And come down to: "play clean, leave Paradigm alone, and we don't have to spend the rest of the set killing you"

Important information:
tAN is head of fluff
that is all.
Carry on!

Drow
PDM Pres of random declarations

you didn't get deleted in alliance again for the rest of the set, and you made an agreement with me publicly to play clean and not hit PDM in return for a DNH.
Are you saying that you chose to cheat anyway?

He ran multis on teams.
He was proven clean in alliance.
Yourself however, not so much, you got deleted yet again last set for multi running.
Yes, you played clean on the restarts after that deletion, which is why I have been as good as my word on not hitting you, but still.

But does he swallow, that's the important question!
*runs*

Fair :)
Good to see the tag back in the game ;)
I remember fighting both against and alongside yas way back in the day

genuinely an old TIE player, or just someone spam tagging?

Lies! That's my country!! 🤣

probably because you attacked someone they're pacted to?

That's how defensive pacts work...

If someone has an LDP or FDP with another alliance, and that alliance gets attacked, they come to their aid.
You should know this by now man.

Nah, I'll leave it like that, it's funnier

That's not the information I have.
You were getting into Leto as much as he was getting into you.

Did I forget to lock the spirit cabinet again?
That's tan's only spiritual leading around here 🤣

You also don't tell the whole truth.
But that's OK, that's what AT is for after all

You also missed the part where you deleted a bunch of your own messages before taking your screenshot, in order to make things appear different to the original context.

I guess your desire to go after someone new since your "win" over milkman (got him deleted for multis in teams, demonstrated he was playing clean in alliance, whilst getting yourself deleted repeatedly) means you're happy to sink to any depth.

There's still a post by leto in your very screenshot tho 🤷‍♂️
Not my fault or problem if you can't see it.

Short form, if you give it out, be prepared to take it.

Except that TFMOI's don't prevail, nor does good triumph over evil.
we have example after example of this being the case.
If it did, Racism would no longer exist in any form.
nor would sexism.
nor would a massive number of problematic issues, because we would have reasoned them out of existence with TFMOI's (TM).

The reality is that the world simply doesn't work like that, much as we wish it did.

We still have neonazis in the world, who spout the crap Hitler espoused, and hail him as a hero, and people lap it up.
We have politicians who literally blame "dem others (insert chosen ethnic, religious, or other minority group here) " for basically everything, and they get swept into the one place they shouldn't be, power.
Because rational debate etc doesn't work. It requires both parties to be rational.

You say Leto deleted all his messages from that day, and yet, funnily enough, there's one right there in the middle of your screenshot.
You slipped up yourself this time dude.
and there's no evidence, even from context, that anything was said, all of those comments could have been reactions to your own initial comment in the screenshot. Especially given that Empyrean is there telling you to calm down.

Sadly, ES is very, very dead.
If memory serves, having been around at the time of its final demise, there was basically a fatal hardware error which caused its end, and the data itself was lost, which was why Commy couldn't get it properly back on line.

the whole problem with Josey's proposal, is that it assumes that no one will engage.
The sad reality is that people ALWAYS engage.
Further, that it gives drivel a veneer of legitimacy.

It is, as they say, the old paradox of tolerance.