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Jul 15th 2024, 5:56:40

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Jul 5th 2024, 6:40:48

Originally posted by Slagpit:
Is it different? My understanding is that the old bot code had 20% farmers just like the current code.


Yes. Food market is inflated. Around $15-$20 higher.

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Jul 1st 2024, 3:21:59

Update: Dark Demon will be moderating the Express game server in addition to the current assigned moderators

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Jul 1st 2024, 3:19:50

Dark Demon has been added to the Express server moderator team

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Jun 30th 2024, 5:26:25

Have you tried not being an offensive pest?

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Jun 22nd 2024, 23:45:47

Originally posted by allbymyself87:


By the way, am curious, whenever an ingame msg is reported, does the mods check on the msg history (including deleted msg) from both parties before taking actions OR mods will take action based on the content of a single reported ingame msg?


Game moderators can see all messages from both sides and yes, I do review the exchange when I'm the one reviewing.

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Jun 21st 2024, 0:10:13

Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Primeval:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Primeval:
Had it been two players that the moderator did not recognize, there could have been a deletion and we would be discussing this through the appeal process.


Galleri don't gaslight.


Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Mods should not delete first then investigate later. They should investigate first then delete if they have a confirmed rules violation.



Since that is what happened here, I assumed you were commenting in support rather than objecting to something. Perhaps she thought your comment was phrased as if it was a complaint.


The comment is (rather clearly) pointed to the fact that the mod process as you described it allows deletion first, investigation later. This is improper and should not happen.


Correct on the latter and I agree. The former is not an accurate interpretation of what I meant. My apologies for the confusion.


The only scenario where a country should ever be undeleted is if the deletion was an error. If a) a mod made a mistake in reading the data or b) the mod incorrectly applied policy and acted improperly.

There should not be any case where additional information would merit an undelete because the already existing information was already sufficient and reliable and only an internal review is necessary to overturn that.


There are different scenarios where a moderator may restore a country. One of the most important being that a player may be found to have broken a rule but during the appeal, and possibly through direct messaging and assurance the issue wont happen in the future, the moderator may decide to deescalate to warning only and restore the country.

...don't go the other way to delete people first and ask questions later, as has been the visible practice recently.


If it has, I've overlooked the recent trend.



It sounds like we mostly agree here on policy. And given the fact that usual practice was applied here in this case, which did not result in a deletion, the expanded discussion on what-ifs is a bit odd. My apologies for any recent negative experiences you may have had. As always, PM me here or through discord if I need to take a look at something in the future.

Edited By: Primeval on Jun 21st 2024, 0:14:24

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Jun 20th 2024, 21:02:49

Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Primeval:
Had it been two players that the moderator did not recognize, there could have been a deletion and we would be discussing this through the appeal process.


Galleri don't gaslight.


Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Mods should not delete first then investigate later. They should investigate first then delete if they have a confirmed rules violation.



Since that is what happened here, I assumed you were commenting in support rather than objecting to something. Perhaps she thought your comment was phrased as if it was a complaint.

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Jun 20th 2024, 2:41:58

Someone is clearing/reordering all standing orders so theirs is next in line so they can pick up the $26 chunk being transferred

Edited By: Primeval on Jun 20th 2024, 2:44:04

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Jun 17th 2024, 17:55:24

The issue was an ingame report because the player thought there could be coordination since he had done no actions against #6 and received harmful ops and ABs during times where he was exchanging hits with another country. Had the two players being reported been unknown to a moderator doing the review, at face value it would look like possible coordination. Given it seems unlikely to anyone that reads the boards that Cath and BH were coordinating together, a further look showed that #6 was doing this to other players. Had it been two players that the moderator did not recognize, there could have been a deletion and we would be discussing this through the appeal process. Hitting players with harmful ops and ABs for generally no reason kind-of makes you a fluff, but its not against the rules. The point is joining in on another player's hostilities against a country that has no interaction with you previously places you on shaky ground if a player submits a report thinking there could be coordination.

Personally, I fully support a player attacking another just over general beef. Using harmful ops and ABs against an unknown player for no reason with seemingly no tactical advantage being gained, especially on a game server that tends to attract new players over the others is pretty uncool.

Edited By: Primeval on Jun 17th 2024, 18:00:27

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Jun 12th 2024, 20:58:59

I'm very disappointed I didn't cross 4b NW. I messed up a few things in the last couple weeks

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Jun 10th 2024, 15:56:14

Guys, there's a really good chance that JW and Cath are just continuously trolling you. I personally don't think that they are so oblivious to game culture that they are honestly defending their recent decisions. They are either posting a narrative that suits them in an attempt to re-write actual facts or they are just 100% messing with you. But it seems unlikely to me that they are somehow confused or feel truly victimized for how things have gone down on this game server.

Clarification on some comments above: new accounts are still being created and we are seeing growth of countries in some game servers. I don't often see that new players are being picked on, at least not moreso than they have been in prior years of existence. Typically new players join because they know someone already playing and join up in clan-based servers. Given that neither of you are new (nor is Gerdler, who was randomly mentioned in an earlier comment), I don't understand the comparison. That said, new players generally don't join and declare forever suiciding war on established alliances and veteran players.

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Jun 8th 2024, 0:14:25

Multi-ing is bad mmkay

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Jun 4th 2024, 20:59:44

Originally posted by g0nz0:


Forum moderators delete or edit posts that contains in-game stats.
An earlier post was removed for violation.
Removing the details and only listing names seems to have passed the mod standards.
If the information was fabrication there would be no deletion.


Forum mods are not game mods

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May 18th 2024, 22:41:37

Defense in turrets sort is the only one that stands out to me. While still not having the exact break, it's still information that somewhat circumvents a spy-op.

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May 11th 2024, 16:15:34

I answered this via PM just now

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May 11th 2024, 16:07:28

Originally posted by allbymyself87:
Primeval, can pm me info for deletion of Faithful Sinner (#11)?


This country was restored last night. PM me if you need further details

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May 10th 2024, 20:21:27

Originally posted by allbymyself87:
When players get purpled in the game, they always face the same issue:

1) No clues which rules they have broken or violated.
2) No clues who should they contact to reinstate their country.
3) Sometimes it takes forever to appeal as not all game mods are around 24/7. So, might end up losing quite some valuable time/turns while waiting for mods to check/reply/reinstate.

Suggestions:

1) Can we enforce for game mod who handles on the country deletion to at least send a private message to the player to inform/explain which rules he has violated and results in deletion?? It's better than let the player himself to have a wild guess on his own?

2) Add an "Appeal" button or link for player to click and fill up proof or reasons to speed up the entire reinstate progress? Better than having to let players to find game mods on their own and sometimes they might find the wrong mod for the server which end up have to look again for the correct mod for the server. And sometimes all the mods not responding, that's the most frustrating part. =/


1a) I agree with the issue but we are challenged by the method of communication.

1b) Not all players have their game profiles linked to their forum handle and the linked accounts are not displayed in a way to make it easy for moderators to easily make a connection for direct contact. Further, not everyone has information in their game account that might identify who they are. Some players do not use their known game/forum handle in their username, email, country name, etc.

I have previously requested that the general reason for the deletion be available for the moderator to select to be viewed by the player and I still think that is a good change for the admins to make. Something general for a moderator to select and be displayed for the player like coordination on solo non-clan game server, multiple accounts, game bug abuse, etc. The current system gives a player that feels they were incorrectly deleted to submit an appeal but often the appeal notes are simply them asking why they were deleted. There is no way for a moderator to reply to their appeal other than approve/deny and players often do not give contact details for correspondence. Even if we were to use the email listed on the account, players rarely check this in my experience (assuming the email is still even in use). A reason given upon deletion would eliminate the extra step and give the player the opportunity to respond to that reason initially. Admins could even force the appeal to include a preferred method of contact.

2a) There is a link to appeal when there is any deletion and a section for the player to provide feedback. The appeal will be viewed the next time a moderator is available. Contacting them outside of this method is not necessary for the appeal to be processed and reviewed.

2b)The person they could contact is typically not just 1 person, but there isn't anyone that a player "should" contact directly. A player can contact any person listed as a moderator for that game server if they choose but immediate reply is not guaranteed or expected from the moderator team. Game mods have access to different areas and I believe these are listed on each forum section. Players can also escalate things to me or Martian as needed if they aren't happy with an appeal decision - Martian and I have access to all game servers as Mod Boss. Admins should generally not be contacted for these matters and will usually defer to the moderator team (should you be lucky enough to get a timely reply from an admin.)

3a) This is relative and the definition can vary from person to person. A moderator replying to an appeal in 8-12 hours might seem to take "forever" to some players, but I might say that is a reasonable amount of time for a reply in most cases. However, this has more impact on game servers like Express so the expectation would likely change. On the flip side, the consequence of the some lost turns in non-Express game servers is not as critical for me personally since players, contrary to claims, are often not deleted for absolutely no reason. An appeal may determine that a deletion should be overturned in some circumstances, but generally something was done by the player to put themselves at risk.

Edited By: Primeval on May 10th 2024, 20:36:26

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May 6th 2024, 2:54:28

This thread has derailed and is now done. Have a swirvey day

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Apr 24th 2024, 0:24:23

I can only say it happens on FFA but I've noticed it only happens after a turn event is still on the screen. Can't declare peace after an attack but if you leave war room and return without that news, it works fine.

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Apr 24th 2024, 0:10:14

I removed your recruitment threads in non-clan game boards. Also, you may want to include the server you're recruiting for in any future efforts.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 23:49:43

This would also add an additional risk of inappropriate country names being created since I'm not sure how multilingual the current moderator team might be. There is already the challenge present of attempting to translate some reported ingame messages

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Apr 11th 2024, 0:51:03

Originally posted by Leto:
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There's a huge block of players that are boycotting the game due to clan GDI being removed. I don't know how we get them back ...


Not as many as you might think. And for the small handful that might be, it's only been one round so far.

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Apr 5th 2024, 5:18:09

It started with the clangdi changeset. It still tags you but gives the error each time.

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Apr 4th 2024, 1:39:48

Originally posted by Leto:


We just need advertising and less ads.



Linking Premium/Credits announcement for your convenience:

Originally posted by Pang:

...
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Mar 27th 2024, 2:14:42

Originally posted by Leto:
I agree with Coalie, and we need to go back to basics where relationships are the building blocks of the alliance server. We also need to nurture these new players and figure out a way to help integrate them so they can be good members of the community.

That requires all of us to do our part, not just the game mods. Every person that places game is unique and special with different needs. There are some great people who play this game that are able to take people under their wings and we need to best utilize a talent we have.

If the goal is to grow membership, utilizing everyone's email addresses when they create a game account. We could send out emails every round. Whenever we signed up for EE we all agreed to them. If you guys can do that, we can do the heavy lifting of making the game fun for them. We have a shared responsibility here, it's not just on the mods to make it happen.

I'll keep on sending out emails and messages to all the people I know, but if it's a numbers game and we're trying to canvas the largest amount possible. I know that single one act would generate the best return on the time investment.


Just for clarification, mods don't really do what I think you're implying. There is no community outreach or marketing staff that I'm aware of. But perhaps I misunderstood your post.

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Mar 26th 2024, 3:41:38

Originally posted by Slagpit:
What if we changed the identity of the server so that the best clans are the ones that are good at both war and netgaining? ...


I'm of the opinion that the most disappointing thing to happen in the game (besides the player count plummeting) is the culture shift many years ago that implies the two have to be separate. I feel clan servers are already mostly designed to accomplish the goal being suggested by simply allowing large group cooperation - players changed the meta themselves. At some point attacking, stealing resources from, and/or destroying an opponent became taboo and those that joined or rejoined this community after that shift simply accepted it as truth.

Edited By: Primeval on Mar 26th 2024, 3:49:48

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Mar 19th 2024, 16:29:55

I asked for it to stop. Time outs issued.

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Mar 19th 2024, 13:47:40

Originally posted by Cathankins:
Originally posted by Primeval:
If I have to keep deleting the same crap, I'm handing out time outs. I've done it in 3 threads already and I've left it at that up until now.




Is Judaism not welcome here?


The moderator team has no issues with religious beliefs or a lack thereof. It is simply not relevant game information. But this is not a setting reserved for a soap box on those issues/topics, especially if they become insulting or derogatory.

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Mar 19th 2024, 13:34:16

If I have to keep deleting the same crap, I'm handing out time outs. I've done it in 3 threads already and I've left it at that up until now.

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Mar 19th 2024, 12:31:41

Originally posted by Coalie:
Looks like Prime deleted our convo


Offensive posts and other off-topic ranting was removed. Unfortunately posts that quoted some of the nonsense were removed as well.

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Mar 16th 2024, 18:56:00

Originally posted by Slagpit:
What would you do with the additional information of seeing standing orders for another country? How would it influence your play?


One could sabotage or potentially intercept a possible upcoming market transfer for starters.

Edited By: Primeval on Mar 16th 2024, 19:00:12

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Mar 16th 2024, 0:39:27

The simplest explanation is probably the most likely

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Mar 11th 2024, 0:31:44

I'm completely fine talking to anyone that has been affected by deletions to clear things up. We are not aiming to remove or discourage legit players in an already shrinking game. Proxy use, paid VPNs, and tor have been used by multiple players to cheat. When you associate yourself with these players and use the same methods to mask your online identity, casualties are bound to happen. I've already reinstated two players.

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Mar 10th 2024, 16:46:59

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