optimum be 90%

if anything you could say rival is to blame since they started it :P

but its just morphed into all the netters looking for a competitive edge over each other over time.



IF all the alliances on the server agreed to stop 2-stepping I would happily agree to it too

If you guys are at all interested, a little history on laf and 2-stepping.

Back in 2004 and before, LaF had an anti 2-step clause in it's pact. It basically stated that any country that hits an LaF country is protected by the pact until LaF took the land back. It was purely to prevent people from gaining from suicides done on us. In 2004, an LaF country, mine actually, was suicided by some random person (I'd assume someone in RD or KJ) and within seconds 2 RIVAL countries 2-stepped it. We went to RIVAL demanding reps because our pact had a 2-step clause specifically written into it and RIVAL basically blew us off and never paid us for it (this was also the start of the deterioration of our relations with them). This however, opened our eyes to the fact that rival had a competitive advantage over us in land, specifically suicided land. Land that was taken from others but nobody had any real authority over because nobody besides LaF recognized 2-stepping as an issue at the time. The following set, TC programmed a news bot for us so that we could also jump on the 2-step bandwagon and started competing with rival for 2-stepped land (this is also the time alliances started using newsbots in irc channels). Soon after, other netgainers were joining in on the 2-stepped land such as RED (which later becomes EVO) and 2-stepping as a major source of land was introduced to the game.

2-stepping became worse around 2005 with the removal of ghost acres. Without ghost acres, land became an even rarer commodity and so easy land became more attractive. In 2006, when EC was created on swirve and RD became more or less non-existent 2-stepped land became the ideal source of land due to the lack of countries on the server and the lack of ghost acres. Since then its become the ideal source of land for any alliance wishing to be competitive in netgaining.



All this said, if there was a serious movement to halt 2-stepping I would be all for it and I'm sure LaF heads are with me on this. Halting 2-stepping could also help curb suiciding in some respects since the offending country would be losing whatever they grab to the alliance they're taking it from. It would basically be transfered from one country to another.


Something to think about I guess.

We were FS'd by ZT and eventually the rest of anti-SLIT came to hit us too (within 24 hours) which was rage and 2 other alliances I can't remember off the top of my head. The interesting thing about this war for LaF was that when we were moving over the new server there were discussions on breaking up SLIT because of the effect we were having on the server. The only alliance that LaF ever wanted to kill in the anti-SLIT section was MD and we had already done that 3x in a row and even forced them to join tags with SoF for a set or two. As far as I was concerned we had no beef with anyone else in anti-SLIT except they kept hitting LaF by association with SLIT. So when we moved over I was intending to neutralize for both LaF and the server's sake but it turned out anti-SLIT did what they always did and lumped LaF with SLIT and FS'd us.



The SLIT side won and LaF had 3 or 4 original countries left at the end. When we got hit I asked all the members to tag back to fight off anti-SLIT and every LaFer with the exception of one or two tagged their great potentially t10/t100 countries over and just mopped them.

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