Bah serb stop stirring stuff up, war is done, and over with.

I second maki, Imp is a very good choice. They lack in members but not in killing power :D
Nbk is fun but it is getting to the point where more members makes wars less fun, gotta have around the same number of countries as people around you, or its just boring :P

Its only unfair if we do it, when someone does it to us it is "a part of war" or perhaps "almost even"

If they pretend well enough, does it really matter?

I did april 22 because the last few days didnt really count, was mainly just focus.

NOW3P, by that logic, if say NBK brought an ally in everytime they fought someone, no matter the circumstances, if they lose you can just say it wasn't a 1v1 so it doesn't count.
They picked the rules for the fight, and they lost by the rules they picked. Although if compare hit stats if you want, even with the FS, NBK on its own, outhit all of AoDT. Outkilled all of AoDT too.


These stats are NBK vs AoDT for the NBK stats from start of war to April 22
For AoDT it is AoDT from start of war, and this includes hits on LaE, IMP, DK, and NBK.

Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
NBKxCC xXAoDTXx 61,594 237 260
xXAoDTXx EVERYONE 59,416 232 256

Aodt had a large country advantage and a FS, and still lost in hits and kills vs NBK, what can you say to defend that?

NBK started with something like 230 countries, ended the war with 270 countries. We came back, and in greater numbers :P

"There were like 25 of our breakers that could not even be broken by NBK nor IMP."

Untrue. You had 0 breakers that I could not kill. Only reason I didn't try was because most of your top ones were online with 100 turns stored half the time. I went for countries that just finished a kill run. And yes, NBK didn't have as many countries over 3.5mil, but we had a ton lower. And 2 2mil countries will break a 4mil NW country no prob. So your "unbreakable" claim is sorta a joke. NBK had more countries then AoDT did, without even counting IMP and DK, you had no chance at winning, especially with your low restart rate.

Have no fear though, gambit will pretend to be your tree if you come back. I wouldn't trust his salad though.

It is more fun over here! Come back to the place where we cant get through a set without a war!!

Treachery?

A bot like that is easy to screw someone over with, true. Also outta all the bots available why stick with a spy bot. If you have any spal, then a spy cant do real damage, at most alert you that someone might intend to attack you. And there are valid news scanning alert bots which can do that.

I think he was just trying to stir up stuff. But the possibility can't be ignored either.

If there was no self farming, then none of these limitation issues would happen :P

"practically unbreakable"

You say that, but give me a number, Ill break it. Im working with 1 non crippled country 4 cripples, and 10 starts, and I can break anything you have, and fast.

Focus did help a lot, I grant that. But just dont use that term :P

I made 10 restarts so far, put em to pretty good use though :D

Yeah it was a really good war, ah well, had a good time :D

Donny will never stop, that is his greatest strength. When it comes to the power of whining he has no equal :P

AODT is entirely to blame. Had you not brought Syn in, it wouldnt have been a gangbang, Syn wouldnt have killed random clans countries and got themselves owned. And it woulda been a 1v1 from the start, and you woulda had a 100 country advantage on us with AoDT's tag alone.
Had you wanted a fair war you woulda done that. From what you did do indicatets you didnt want a fair war, which is what you got.

Actually I still have 5 originals left, pretty good considering that our FS was designed to take out our high NW countries, which mine were :P

Never said that. I know you can't net. Just don't plan on trying...

Lol another statement made by the genius we call Donny, "NBK can't Net"
Guess what clan had half the top 30 until a day before the war started :P

We can net, we just dont because we like to kill, as you found out.

Rofl I just realised the funniest thing on this entire thread...
Donny thinks NBK nets, lol.

Rofl, you needed a what, 2:1 country advantage to FS us?
Btw, Focus wasnt even an ally, I was landgrabbing Crippler all set :P

So Fail.

I thought it was standard, any country switching tags gets killed by police.

"little AoDT "

Well they were little before Focus even joined in. NBK had a country number advantage over the last few days over AoDT, and has been outhitting and outkilling aodt as well.
You aodt guys are pretty funny. When the war started all the posts you guys made, were about how fair it was, and you only had a 80 country advantage over everyone else, and it doesnt really matter cause we had more NW. And how it was fair to have a 600 country FS.

Now you guys are the first to be whining about how unfair it is when it happens to you. And you are so innocent and big bad ol NBK is taking advantage of you.

I mean if you are gonna say stuff like that is fair and good from the start, stick to your statements like a man, don't go whining when it happens to you.

If Donny were being hanged, he would complain that the rope isnt made of gold :P

Lesson learned for Aodt - Do not kill countries that aren't involved in the war. Do not defuse missiles on countries not involved in the war. Do not do spy other spy ops on countries not involved in the war. And do not start gangbangs, when you start a stupid 2v1 with a 2v1 country advantage on a FS, why should the other side stop calling in allies at the point where it is even, if we have more allies we should use them.

If you start a gangbang with a massive country advantage, then no matter what happens, in the end, what goes around come around. And it came around for you.

NBK did not go crying to focus for assistance, we just buckled down and started killing, you probably noticed that part :P

"NBK was fully prepared"
That isnt actually true. Id say our countries were about half war ready, and the bulk of us had only the days worth of turns stored. AoDT and Syn not only had double our countries, got to hit us when we werent completely ready, and not even a full days worth of turns saved up isnt exactly saying we were fully prepared.

Had my countries lived for one more day, they would have been about 4x harder to kill. Trust me, it matters losing your breakers before they are completely ready for war.

lol Donny, you guys went from 350 ish countries to 218 cause you guys had a lot die :P
If your members were active, and I will assume they are, your starts are just untagged.

If you guys dont know how to make restarts bad idea to start a gangbang you cant finish :D

And here it is, AoDT complaining about gangbangs, love the irony.

Cant wait till this war is over so I can go back to farming aodt!

Im at work, I was killing stuff while running machines and making graphics!

My own clan did it to me today! Probably serb :P

Well Theo's might not be immune, but would take many additional missiles hits even with no SDI in almost all cases. But missile cap wise theo's are in the best situation to take advantage of it.

And yes you are right, I totally messed that 13% up, I tried to figure this out from looking at news from my country that got chemmed last week, lol.

It might be a little off, as I rounded the numbers I saw to the nearest .5% (Although the 20% of your pop I had as 18.5%, but I thought that the Chem from the person who hit had a lower pop when he missiled then when I had my spy opp) But it is still fairly accurate to within 1-2 missiles.

This is what I typed into excel to make it work, I have no calculator, and I am work, lol.

Well sort of guys, the maximum damage a chem will do is about 20% of your population. How much it will do if it hits and is under 20% of your population, is about 13%. The 20% cap only really matters for the first few missiles, unless he is more then double your pop, will only take 3-4 before the cap doesnt matter.

The difference in population between 34% tax and 0 % tax, is you only gain 50% more pop and will take quite a few turns to do this and a big loss of income, so not worthwhile.
If you had a casher missiler, it would be best if he shot off the first 3, then let your other missilers pick it up after that. The 20% cap doesnt matter once his population falls to 160% of your population.

A theo casher is almost immune to chems as it is possible for it to take 20-30 chems just to bring him to the normal level of population where the 20% cap is not in effect.

The actual amount of missiles that it takes to kill a country if none are shot down is pretty close to this.

If his population is greater then 160% of your population
((His Pop)-(YourPop*1.6))/(YourPop*.2) +
(Log(200)-Log(YourPop*1.6))/Log(.87)+8

If his population is smaller then 160% of yours.
(Log(200)-Log(HisPop))/Log(.87)+8

Hope this helps :D

Thanks to Slagpit for the correction of 13% per chem hit instead of 12.5%

My countries all died hard. To be honest we werent war ready, we needed 2 more days to be ready and have turns left. My countries were as ready as anyone else in NBK pretty much, but I needed another day to fully convert to war, and I guarantee you they would have absorbed a lot more then 800 missiles :P

Both sides are doing well, but a 600 country FS is what actually hurt us. Your activity is great aodt, but the kills you fellows got on my countries at start were almost free kills compared to what they would have been ;)

So Syn just kills random countries, reguardless of ally status. Gives leader board access to the opposite side of the war, prefers to gangbang other clans :P

I remember you ;)

Howdy

Sucked how the wars started right when you focus fellows made some badass breakers to hit my dicts, things woulda gotten fun!

Ah well cheers, I still love you and your land Cripp, although most is missile garbage now :D

Can I be your FA minister and Retal minister and still be in NBK?

I like doing retals, pick me pick me!

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