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Ratm:
Tella don't forget our FS was on PDM, not those 3 clans. Lotta hits not going towards "DIT." (teehee! DIT...)
And the "backstabbing" term is pretty interesting. Hawkster only returned at the very end of last set. In fact, it was AFTER peace was declared. Me personally, I came back to this game (and RAGE) at the end of November last year. And with my time back I can't think of one thing MD did for us, or us for them, or anything at all between us that would suggest we were friends at all. I mean, there's still the shared mafia board in boxcar I guess?
Since I came back there have been some rough times for us. Some self inflicted, some not. At what point did MD give any help to RAGE in the last year? Was it when we were at rock bottom and then blind sided by MD's good and long time friends at LCN? Or the second time in the same set RAGE was blind sided by MD's good and long time friends at LCN? Or was it when LaF stomped on us last fall? Or was it just the time where MD absorbed our members purely for its own benefit? It's baffling to me that this is still used as some sort of ammunition against us. To hold something like that over your friend's head is being a piss poor friend IMO. Especially when it was done with such obviously impure intentions in the first place. "Moral decay," indeed.
I mean, it's such a silly platform to stand on, isn't it? There was no sacrifice in bringing RAGE in. There was no risk. There was no overall downside for you at all. It's not like you guys provided RAGE with food and shelter. This isn't that sort of game. You provided a tag. YOUR tag. A service any clan would have done to better themselves. Afterall, more members is more members. More hits for your wars. More activity on your boards. To me, RAGE coming to MD was much more beneficial to MD than it was to RAGE. That's just how this game works.
Even if you argue MD did such a great service to RAGE by giving us "safe harbor," there aren't many in the clan now that were even around for that. Self included, as I stated before. We have a lot of new recruits and old returning members. Claiming we backstabbed somebody just doesn't resonate at this point.
Please don't take any of this as whining. Don't even take this as "stating the facts," because it isn't. I'm just voicing my opinion and trying to provide you with a perspective from the other side of the table.
MD provided tag protection and a separate identity within MD (all labeled RAGE) to help hold the community together. When Darrian showed up and decided to take the clan back out of MD, he had a solid organized group to start with with their own dedicated boards, activity, etc. Ever since then, MD and RAGE had an FDP and there were never any hits exchanged between the two. I was frequently in RAGE's warchat anytime I saw hits on RAGE by anyone, including being the first in there when LCN hit. We offered up our warbot and I went back through our list of RAGE members and contact info to have our bot text people to get online as help to FDF (before he was ousted).
Yes, this is all "within the past year".
On the FA front, we also always encouraged our allies to pact RAGE, even if not all of them did.
IMHO, our relations were very good with RAGE until Darrian took over and then much worse when Robyn/Sov took over.