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TwoPodRay Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 21:07:41

Express players, I think it is time we address the issue of the griefing and suiciding that has been occurring in Express for the last few months. I know that it has driven away at least 2-4 of the big names of the server and potentially many of the smaller players. It is time we addressed this and look to provide some sort of framework of "spirit of the game". I know @g0nzo has somewhat touched on this topic (without going into detail) in previous posts, but I think that now it is worthy of discussion in a dedicated thread. The hope would be that the game admins take notice and eventually take action, as the game moderators are hamstrung in that they cannot take direct action.

The griefing and suiciding that has been happening recently in Express is technically within the rules of the game, but absolutely violates the spirit of the game, and ruining anywhere from 2-9 different player's sets is incredibly detrimental to the ongoing future of this game when griefers are allowed to continue doing what they do. I know for a fact it has happened in other servers as well, and it is becoming exhausting when a number of players have to either dedicate an entire set to building war countries to kill off these 1-2 (or more) griefer countries just for others to be allowed to play the game normally or the victims have to convert to war countries mid set just to deal with the issue. This has become a game of whack-a-mole and has developed to be a history of repeat offenses that I believe would be worthy of administrative action. I know Slagpit had mentioned the idea of Sanctions for this sort of play before he took a leave of absence, but this would be a very clear scenario where this sort of administrative action would be warranted.

Does this need to come to a community vote? Can this be something that the admins can delegate to moderators for additional influence?

The most prolific offender of these griefing actions is a player who names their country "Hungry". Please feel free to reply or vent here if you have been affected by similar griefing actions by this player or by others. It is time that this sort of action gets the awareness, and reaction, that it deserves, before it permanently drives legitimate players from this game.

Edited By: TwoPodRay on Dec 10th 2021, 21:10:20

Gerdler Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 21:31:38

Im 100% for this.

The biggest repeat offenders of this should absolutely be sanctioned, I thought this was why sanctions were created in the first place. The point shouldnt be to remove negative players from the environment, the goal should instead be to disentivize everyone from playing this way by showing them this risk is real.

But yeah as I understand it and as written out in the post where sanctions were created, only mod bosses and admin have access to the sanctions tool. Which means no one who has been watching this play out on express for the past half year is in a position to sanction anyone.

If we by popular demand make the game mod(galleri) delete for griefing in some new spirit of the server rules for express, that is a very crude tool since she can only delete after the fact which means that every set the damage will first have to be done before action is taken... so problem wont be solved by this.

Others will also start saying versions of "there is a huge grey area"/"who is to decide what is griefing and what is not" but these players are either just trying to keep the status quo so they can keep griefing or they are actually just clueless about the game and/or what has been happening. Ofc no one should be sanctioned for anything grey but I can tell you that the grey area doesnt come near anything but a small minority of these plays.

Nothing of what Hungry or Superfly or several others have been doing is anywhere close to grey. Its just plain griefing for the sake of griefing, and anyone with true intentions can see that.

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Dec 10th 2021, 21:51:50

Sad when people just play to ruin others experience.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Gerdler Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 22:02:24

The way to do this is this:

Identify the 1-4 worst repeat offenders.

1. Sanction them for 1 month each, write it publicly which ones are being sanctioned.
2. If any of them give any kind of lip, show disagreement or any kind of anger, infact anything but remorse and regret over their flawed decisions, the sanctions then become permanent. Silence in the matter will be interpreted as asking for forgiveness and promising never to do it again.
3. If your sanctions are removed and you do it again, ofc permanent sanctions are introduced as you have shown your true colors.

If people keep popping up doing this staff/players need to keep looking at new offenders every set, look back through their histories to see if this was a one time thing or repeat offense. Especially if its a new profile or repeat offender; Sanction them temporarily and guage their response like outlined in #1,2,3.
Old players with dozens or hundreds of resets with irreproachable gameplay and sportsmanship should perhaps be afforded a higher threshhold, but having been here for 4.5 years on this forum and playing this server, that is not really what happens here. It is the same repeat offenders over and over again.

SuperFly Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 23:41:36

I vote that we REMOVE the ability to attack all human players and spy on human players.

I vote that we are only allowed to attack bots so that we can ALL run countries with 0 defense and so that we can ALL play with the least amount of expenses and with 0% chance that ANY one of us can be hurt by another player interacting with our countries.

I vote that the ONLY way that we can interact with other players is via ingame messages.

Who here agrees with me?

It’s complete BS to have the ability to attack a player as anyone can argue that by making 1 LG on a player this can RUIN their entire round and their entire RL outside of the game

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 23:48:21

Ban ingame messages too.
Just shut up and have another beer

SuperFly Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 23:48:48

I petitioned the removal of attacking in team to no avail years ago.

Just remove human to human attacks and problem solved.

In the grand scheme of things there should not be any attacks on humans unless u want to hurt others.

Tmac Game profile

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Dec 10th 2021, 23:57:51

That's what the military sanctions were introduced for. It just appears that no active mods can/will use it.

Gerdler Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:02:45

No one is making this suggestion to remove '1 LG on a player'

This BS you are doing isnt 1 LG on a player is it:

2021-12-03 01:55:57 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 64A (66A)
2021-12-03 01:55:56 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 81A (84A)
2021-12-03 01:55:56 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 101A (104A)
2021-12-03 01:55:55 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 124A (129A)
2021-12-03 01:55:55 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 152A (157A)
2021-12-03 01:55:54 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 157A (162A)
2021-12-03 01:55:53 SS Hungry (#15) Onaplane (#24) 162A (169A)
2021-12-03 01:55:18 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 116A (123A)
2021-12-03 01:55:18 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 146A (156A)
2021-12-03 01:55:17 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 181A (194A)
2021-12-03 01:55:17 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 199A (213A)
2021-12-03 01:55:16 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 198A (213A)
2021-12-03 01:55:15 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 196A (212A)
2021-12-03 01:55:15 SS Hungry (#15) (#84) 194A (210A)
2021-12-03 01:48:16 SS Hungry (#15) Yellowstone (#7) 161A (197A)
2021-12-03 01:48:15 SS Hungry (#15) Yellowstone (#7) 177A (224A)
2021-12-03 01:48:14 SS Hungry (#15) Yellowstone (#7) 166A (217A)
2021-12-03 01:48:12 SS Hungry (#15) Yellowstone (#7) 159A (216A)

Or this:
2021-08-15 22:42:21 PS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 143A (155A)
2021-08-15 22:41:30 NM Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 1001A
2021-08-15 22:40:46 PS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 987A (1034A)
2021-08-15 22:40:38 PS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1340A (1415A)
2021-08-15 22:39:53 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 123A (135A)
2021-08-15 22:39:53 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 156A (176A)
2021-08-15 22:39:52 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 193A (229A)
2021-08-15 22:27:47 NM Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 1054A
2021-08-15 22:27:45 NM Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 1109A
2021-08-15 21:37:12 CM Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 797B 46438 C
2021-08-15 21:37:11 CM Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 831B 45746 C
2021-08-15 21:37:10 CM Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 865B 44261 C
2021-08-15 21:36:32 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1020A (1096A)
2021-08-15 21:36:31 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1331A (1461A)
2021-08-15 21:36:30 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1735A (1952A)
2021-08-15 21:36:28 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1660A (1964A)
2021-08-15 21:36:19 EM Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 66378MU
2021-08-15 21:36:19 EM Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 67047MU
2021-08-15 14:03:04 PS Soldado Nation (#16) E x x o n M o b i l (#88) 2528A (3163A)
2021-08-15 14:01:59 PS Soldado Nation (#16) 4 (#4) 2453A (3063A)
2021-08-15 14:00:00 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 512A (656A)
2021-08-15 13:59:59 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 656A (872A)
2021-08-15 13:59:49 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 838A (1122A)
2021-08-15 13:59:49 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1074A (1452A)
2021-08-15 13:59:48 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1395A (1887A)
2021-08-15 13:59:47 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1587A (2105A)
2021-08-15 13:59:43 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Preeminence (#24) 1827A (2370A)
2021-08-15 13:58:00 SS Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 397A (516A)
2021-08-15 13:57:50 SS Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 483A (669A)
2021-08-15 13:57:40 SS Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 581A (863A)
2021-08-15 13:56:49 SS Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) 743A (1164A)
2021-08-15 13:56:37 SS Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) DH
2021-08-15 13:56:21 SS Soldado Nation (#16) RatZilla (#6) DH
2021-08-15 13:52:43 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Chonistan (#42) 117A (187A)
2021-08-15 13:52:42 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Chonistan (#42) 136A (240A)
2021-08-15 13:52:41 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Chonistan (#42) 156A (309A)
2021-08-15 13:52:31 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Chonistan (#42) 174A (395A)
2021-08-15 13:52:23 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Chonistan (#42) 178A (404A)
2021-08-15 13:52:12 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Chonistan (#42) 184A (414A)
2021-08-15 13:51:26 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Meth is Life (#86) 124A (203A)
2021-08-15 13:51:25 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Meth is Life (#86) 142A (263A)
2021-08-15 13:51:24 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Meth is Life (#86) 159A (338A)
2021-08-15 13:51:24 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Meth is Life (#86) 173A (430A)
2021-08-15 13:51:23 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Meth is Life (#86) 177A (441A)
2021-08-15 13:51:22 SS Soldado Nation (#16) Meth is Life (#86) 182A (451A)
2021-08-15 13:49:23 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 97A (118A)
2021-08-15 13:49:22 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 122A (155A)
2021-08-15 13:49:21 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 148A (202A)
2021-08-15 13:49:20 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 177A (263A)
2021-08-15 13:49:19 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 205A (337A)
2021-08-15 13:49:18 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 231A (425A)
2021-08-15 13:49:12 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 254A (534A)
2021-08-15 13:49:11 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 262A (549A)
2021-08-15 13:49:10 SS Soldado Nation (#16) I win (#100) 269A (561A)
2021-08-15 13:47:59 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 125A (165A)
2021-08-15 13:47:56 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 154A (217A)
2021-08-15 13:47:55 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 184A (285A)
2021-08-15 13:47:55 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 217A (369A)
2021-08-15 13:47:54 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 248A (472A)
2021-08-15 13:47:53 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 277A (599A)
2021-08-15 13:47:53 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 287A (621A)
2021-08-15 13:47:51 SS Soldado Nation (#16) DIRT (#96) 298A (640A)

or this
2021-08-08 22:40:20 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 72A (75A)
2021-08-08 22:38:47 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 227A (244A)
2021-08-08 22:38:46 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 288A (309A)
2021-08-08 22:38:45 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 361A (388A)
2021-08-08 22:38:44 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 448A (482A)
2021-08-08 22:38:11 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 549A (600A)
2021-08-08 22:38:03 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 567A (636A)
2021-08-08 22:37:47 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 582A (675A)
2021-08-08 22:29:15 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) DH
2021-08-08 15:14:43 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 36A (38A)
2021-08-08 15:14:43 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 36A (38A)
2021-08-08 15:14:42 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 37A (39A)
2021-08-08 15:14:39 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 43A (45A)
2021-08-08 15:14:38 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 53A (57A)
2021-08-08 15:12:48 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 69A (77A)
2021-08-08 15:12:47 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 91A (105A)
2021-08-08 15:12:46 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 116A (140A)
2021-08-08 15:12:41 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) DH
2021-08-08 14:15:35 PS Chuck Testa Here (#6) LetsTryAgain (#101) 1633A (2553A)
2021-08-08 14:14:31 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) DH
2021-08-08 14:14:23 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 275A (329A)
2021-08-08 14:13:58 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) DH
2021-08-08 14:13:57 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 444A (582A)
2021-08-08 14:13:56 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 572A (787A)
2021-08-08 14:13:55 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 739A (1071A)
2021-08-08 14:13:55 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 966A (1473A)
2021-08-08 14:13:53 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 1090A (1646A)
2021-08-08 14:13:28 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) green dragon (#81) 1239A (1845A)
2021-08-08 14:10:48 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 270A (314A)
2021-08-08 14:10:41 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) DH
2021-08-08 14:09:50 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 105A (120A)
2021-08-08 14:09:49 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 136A (164A)
2021-08-08 14:09:49 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 174A (220A)
2021-08-08 14:09:48 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 218A (292A)
2021-08-08 14:09:47 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 268A (384A)
2021-08-08 14:09:46 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 326A (502A)
2021-08-08 14:09:45 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 389A (650A)
2021-08-08 14:09:44 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 460A (839A)
2021-08-08 14:09:38 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) DH
2021-08-08 14:09:23 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) eenie meenie miney mo (#72) 484A (877A)
2021-08-08 14:08:00 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Morm Nacdonald (#19) 156A (234A)
2021-08-08 14:07:58 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Morm Nacdonald (#19) 185A (306A)
2021-08-08 14:07:50 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Morm Nacdonald (#19) 215A (395A)
2021-08-08 14:07:36 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Morm Nacdonald (#19) 244A (507A)
2021-08-08 14:07:21 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Morm Nacdonald (#19) 262A (587A)
2021-08-08 14:07:10 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Morm Nacdonald (#19) 271A (602A)
2021-08-08 14:06:04 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 162A (218A)
2021-08-08 14:06:04 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 199A (287A)
2021-08-08 14:06:03 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 240A (374A)
2021-08-08 14:06:02 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 284A (485A)
2021-08-08 14:06:01 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 333A (604A)
2021-08-08 14:06:00 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 347A (624A)
2021-08-08 14:05:50 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Soviet Red Army (#86) 361A (642A)
2021-08-08 05:37:22 PS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Bat Soup Crazy (#102) 1198A (1969A)
2021-08-08 05:36:56 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Bat Soup Crazy (#102) 890A (1445A)
2021-08-08 05:35:59 PS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 473A (610A)
2021-08-08 05:35:18 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 411A (558A)
2021-08-08 05:35:17 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 522A (751A)
2021-08-08 05:35:08 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 660A (1012A)
2021-08-08 05:34:33 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 853A (1385A)
2021-08-08 05:34:19 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 977A (1565A)
2021-08-08 05:34:10 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Covid 19 is real (#4) 1131A (1782A)
2021-08-08 05:33:09 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) JOSE (#100) 428A (733A)
2021-08-08 05:31:02 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 120A (172A)
2021-08-08 05:31:01 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 144A (226A)
2021-08-08 05:31:01 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 166A (293A)
2021-08-08 05:31:00 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 189A (376A)
2021-08-08 05:30:59 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 208A (470A)
2021-08-08 05:30:58 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 215A (487A)
2021-08-08 05:30:56 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) Yes (#91) 221A (497A)
2021-08-08 05:27:39 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 41A (44A)
2021-08-08 05:27:38 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 49A (53A)
2021-08-08 05:27:37 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 62A (69A)
2021-08-08 05:27:37 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 81A (90A)
2021-08-08 05:27:36 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 104A (122A)
2021-08-08 05:27:35 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 131A (158A)
2021-08-08 05:27:34 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 161A (202A)
2021-08-08 05:27:34 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 194A (254A)
2021-08-08 05:27:33 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 228A (317A)
2021-08-08 05:27:32 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 263A (391A)
2021-08-08 05:27:31 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 297A (475A)
2021-08-08 05:27:29 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 308A (490A)
2021-08-08 05:27:21 SS Chuck Testa Here (#6) accordland (#105) 318A (503A)

or this:
2021-07-25 23:33:29 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) DH
2021-07-25 23:06:25 PS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 310A (333A)
2021-07-25 20:11:10 PS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 247A (267A)
2021-07-25 20:11:08 PS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 324A (355A)
2021-07-25 20:10:53 PS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 424A (471A)
2021-07-25 20:08:36 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 360A (438A)
2021-07-25 20:08:35 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 451A (563A)
2021-07-25 20:08:35 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 556A (711A)
2021-07-25 20:08:34 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 674A (887A)
2021-07-25 20:08:33 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 807A (1097A)
2021-07-25 20:08:32 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 956A (1346A)
2021-07-25 20:08:31 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 1001A (1400A)
2021-07-25 20:08:30 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Minsc and Boo (#12) 1047A (1453A)
2021-07-25 20:06:58 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 288A (397A)
2021-07-25 20:06:57 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 349A (520A)
2021-07-25 20:06:56 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 415A (675A)
2021-07-25 20:06:55 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 486A (870A)
2021-07-25 20:06:54 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 558A (1108A)
2021-07-25 20:06:54 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 576A (1143A)
2021-07-25 20:06:51 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) take it easy (#5) 593A (1173A)
2021-07-25 20:02:25 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 113A (134A)
2021-07-25 20:02:24 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 144A (183A)
2021-07-25 20:02:24 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 179A (243A)
2021-07-25 20:02:23 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 218A (320A)
2021-07-25 20:02:22 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 258A (406A)
2021-07-25 20:02:22 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 297A (502A)
2021-07-25 20:02:21 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 332A (616A)
2021-07-25 20:02:20 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 360A (743A)
2021-07-25 20:02:19 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 369A (760A)
2021-07-25 20:02:18 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Black Widow (#27) 378A (775A)
2021-07-25 17:52:56 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Attack of the killer tomatoes (#87) 431A (569A)
2021-07-25 17:52:56 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Attack of the killer tomatoes (#87) 535A (745A)
2021-07-25 17:52:55 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Attack of the killer tomatoes (#87) 659A (978A)
2021-07-25 17:52:54 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Attack of the killer tomatoes (#87) 806A (1275A)
2021-07-25 17:52:54 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Attack of the killer tomatoes (#87) 882A (1386A)
2021-07-25 17:52:52 SS Only 20 Humans Play Here (#7) Attack of the killer tomatoes (#87) 956A (1493A)


Or this:
2021-07-18 15:55:33 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 64A (69A)
2021-07-18 15:55:32 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 81A (88A)
2021-07-18 04:37:57 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) CooBah (#87) 118A (173A)
2021-07-18 04:37:56 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) CooBah (#87) 139A (222A)
2021-07-18 04:37:55 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) CooBah (#87) 159A (284A)
2021-07-18 04:37:45 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) CooBah (#87) 179A (359A)
2021-07-18 04:37:44 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) CooBah (#87) 174A (385A)
2021-07-18 04:37:32 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) CooBah (#87) 179A (396A)
2021-07-18 04:36:16 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Lana Ghoulblade (#86) 68A (74A)
2021-07-18 04:36:15 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Lana Ghoulblade (#86) 89A (100A)
2021-07-18 04:36:14 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Lana Ghoulblade (#86) 113A (135A)
2021-07-18 04:33:39 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 93A (127A)
2021-07-18 04:33:36 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 114A (169A)
2021-07-18 04:33:34 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 137A (225A)
2021-07-18 04:33:33 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 160A (293A)
2021-07-18 04:33:32 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 185A (379A)
2021-07-18 04:33:20 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 208A (486A)
2021-07-18 04:33:19 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 214A (500A)
2021-07-18 04:33:08 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) I build ICs and CS (#82) 220A (512A)
2021-07-17 22:52:27 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Sweet tea rocketship (#93) 182A (277A)
2021-07-17 22:52:05 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Sweet tea rocketship (#93) 215A (359A)
2021-07-17 22:51:50 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Sweet tea rocketship (#93) 249A (462A)
2021-07-17 22:51:35 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Sweet tea rocketship (#93) 282A (589A)
2021-07-17 22:51:15 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Sweet tea rocketship (#93) 296A (632A)
2021-07-17 22:51:01 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Sweet tea rocketship (#93) 306A (648A)
2021-07-17 22:49:24 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 53A (59A)
2021-07-17 22:49:24 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 68A (78A)
2021-07-17 22:49:23 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 85A (102A)
2021-07-17 22:49:22 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 103A (129A)
2021-07-17 22:49:21 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 122A (164A)
2021-07-17 22:49:20 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 142A (202A)
2021-07-17 22:49:20 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 160A (248A)
2021-07-17 22:49:19 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 175A (299A)
2021-07-17 22:49:18 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 179A (306A)
2021-07-17 22:49:16 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Test (#97) 184A (312A)
2021-07-17 17:09:36 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) W a s t e O f S p a c e (#41) 209A (354A)
2021-07-17 17:09:22 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) W a s t e O f S p a c e (#41) 245A (458A)
2021-07-17 17:09:08 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) W a s t e O f S p a c e (#41) 285A (590A)
2021-07-17 17:08:37 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) W a s t e O f S p a c e (#41) 296A (608A)
2021-07-17 17:08:23 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) W a s t e O f S p a c e (#41) 306A (625A)
2021-07-17 12:11:59 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 17A (18A)
2021-07-17 05:29:44 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 94A (103A)
2021-07-17 05:29:19 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 122A (131A)
2021-07-17 05:29:18 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 154A (164A)
2021-07-17 05:29:17 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 191A (203A)
2021-07-17 05:29:16 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 235A (250A)
2021-07-17 05:29:15 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 284A (305A)
2021-07-17 05:29:14 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 289A (319A)
2021-07-17 05:29:13 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 292A (332A)
2021-07-17 04:30:31 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 83A (89A)
2021-07-17 04:30:19 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 104A (112A)
2021-07-17 04:30:08 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 130A (140A)
2021-07-16 13:43:25 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 71A (86A)
2021-07-16 13:43:24 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 88A (111A)
2021-07-16 13:43:23 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 107A (141A)
2021-07-16 13:43:22 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 127A (175A)
2021-07-16 13:43:21 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 148A (215A)
2021-07-16 13:43:21 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 169A (261A)
2021-07-16 13:43:20 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 163A (275A)
2021-07-16 13:43:19 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Like A Rolling Stone (#3) 157A (286A)
2021-07-16 13:42:54 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) 88 (#88) 53A (90A)
2021-07-16 13:42:53 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) 88 (#88) 61A (118A)
2021-07-16 13:42:53 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) 88 (#88) 68A (152A)
2021-07-16 13:42:52 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) 88 (#88) 74A (194A)
2021-07-16 13:42:51 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) 88 (#88) 76A (200A)
2021-07-16 13:42:50 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) 88 (#88) 78A (203A)
2021-07-16 13:27:58 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 39A (

Edited By: Gerdler on Dec 11th 2021, 0:41:54

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:03:56

Too long for forum, continued here:

2021-07-16 13:27:58 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 39A (42A)
2021-07-16 13:27:57 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 52A (55A)
2021-07-16 13:23:47 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 66A (71A)
2021-07-16 13:23:46 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 86A (92A)
2021-07-16 13:23:45 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 108A (116A)
2021-07-16 13:23:44 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 134A (146A)
2021-07-16 13:23:43 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 165A (180A)
2021-07-16 13:23:42 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 202A (223A)
2021-07-16 13:23:41 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 206A (234A)
2021-07-16 13:23:37 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 210A (249A)
2021-07-16 04:48:34 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Capt Sofia Redblade (#19) 327A (574A)
2021-07-16 04:47:19 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) hoboken (#89) 167A (339A)
2021-07-16 04:46:50 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) hoboken (#89) 176A (353A)
2021-07-16 04:43:16 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 148A (162A)
2021-07-16 04:43:16 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 188A (209A)
2021-07-16 04:43:15 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 238A (270A)
2021-07-16 04:43:14 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 305A (351A)
2021-07-16 04:43:14 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 399A (463A)
2021-07-16 04:43:13 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 467A (530A)
2021-07-16 04:43:12 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Magnecal D Plus (#2) 562A (620A)
2021-07-16 04:40:39 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 85A (89A)
2021-07-16 04:40:39 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 113A (119A)
2021-07-16 04:40:38 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 150A (159A)
2021-07-16 04:40:37 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 198A (211A)
2021-07-16 04:40:37 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 264A (282A)
2021-07-16 04:40:36 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 357A (382A)
2021-07-16 04:40:35 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 496A (523A)
2021-07-16 04:40:34 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 588A (600A)
2021-07-16 04:40:33 SS SuperFly Here To Farm U (#4) Wikipedia (#34) 660A (663A)

Or this:
2021-07-11 14:53:05 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 178A (223A)
2021-07-11 14:53:05 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 224A (296A)
2021-07-11 14:53:04 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 276A (390A)
2021-07-11 14:53:03 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 336A (507A)
2021-07-11 14:53:03 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 401A (656A)
2021-07-11 14:53:02 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 474A (846A)
2021-07-11 14:53:01 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 494A (880A)
2021-07-11 14:53:00 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Dammtopia (#86) 513A (904A)
2021-07-11 14:50:22 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 57A (59A)
2021-07-11 14:50:21 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 57A (59A)
2021-07-11 14:50:19 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 61A (63A)
2021-07-11 14:50:18 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 75A (77A)
2021-07-11 14:50:17 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 96A (99A)
2021-07-11 14:50:17 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 127A (131A)
2021-07-11 14:50:16 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 167A (173A)
2021-07-11 14:50:15 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 217A (226A)
2021-07-11 14:50:14 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 275A (290A)
2021-07-11 14:50:13 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 341A (366A)
2021-07-11 14:50:12 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 417A (457A)
2021-07-11 14:50:12 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 501A (567A)
2021-07-11 14:50:11 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 592A (693A)
2021-07-11 14:50:10 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 588A (719A)
2021-07-11 14:50:08 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) the sky is falling (#97) 578A (741A)
2021-07-11 14:47:24 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 116A (136A)
2021-07-11 14:47:23 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 148A (183A)
2021-07-11 14:47:22 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 185A (243A)
2021-07-11 14:47:21 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 226A (319A)
2021-07-11 14:47:21 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 270A (415A)
2021-07-11 14:47:19 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 314A (535A)
2021-07-11 14:47:17 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 358A (675A)
2021-07-11 14:46:55 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 396A (838A)
2021-07-11 14:46:42 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) 407A (878A)
2021-07-11 14:46:35 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) vega (#77) DH
2021-07-11 14:45:39 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 186A (269A)
2021-07-11 14:45:38 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 223A (355A)
2021-07-11 14:45:37 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 260A (460A)
2021-07-11 14:45:36 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 295A (591A)
2021-07-11 14:45:23 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 327A (751A)
2021-07-11 14:45:21 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 336A (773A)
2021-07-11 14:45:07 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Mexico (#10) 345A (792A)
2021-07-11 14:41:35 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 46A (50A)
2021-07-11 14:41:34 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 56A (62A)
2021-07-11 14:41:34 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 72A (83A)
2021-07-11 14:41:33 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 93A (110A)
2021-07-11 14:41:32 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 119A (145A)
2021-07-11 14:41:31 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 148A (187A)
2021-07-11 14:41:30 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 181A (240A)
2021-07-11 14:41:29 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 215A (303A)
2021-07-11 14:41:29 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 250A (376A)
2021-07-11 14:41:28 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 282A (458A)
2021-07-11 14:41:24 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Thoracocentesis (#95) 308A (545A)
2021-07-11 04:01:40 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 266A (324A)
2021-07-11 04:01:38 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 337A (435A)
2021-07-11 04:01:27 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 419A (578A)
2021-07-11 04:01:18 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 510A (758A)
2021-07-11 04:01:10 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 610A (987A)
2021-07-11 04:01:00 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 716A (1272A)
2021-07-11 04:00:50 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) 830A (1629A)
2021-07-11 04:00:13 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) DH
2021-07-11 04:00:06 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) c h a i r m a n m a o (#83) DH
2021-07-11 03:57:45 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) DH
2021-07-11 03:57:37 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) 600A (788A)
2021-07-11 03:57:27 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) 749A (1044A)
2021-07-11 03:57:07 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) 922A (1375A)
2021-07-11 03:56:58 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) 1086A (1754A)
2021-07-11 03:56:29 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) 1782A (2904A)
2021-07-11 03:55:27 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) DH
2021-07-11 03:55:09 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) this is the way (#4) DH
2021-07-11 03:54:18 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 179A (191A)
2021-07-11 03:54:14 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 230A (251A)
2021-07-11 03:54:06 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) DH
2021-07-11 03:53:57 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 391A (454A)
2021-07-11 03:53:20 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 512A (619A)
2021-07-11 03:53:19 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 662A (838A)
2021-07-11 03:53:18 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 851A (1132A)
2021-07-11 03:53:17 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 1092A (1533A)
2021-07-11 03:53:16 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 1414A (2036A)
2021-07-11 03:53:14 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) DH
2021-07-11 03:53:06 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 1858A (2714A)
2021-07-11 03:52:56 SS I PM All My Food at 38 bucks (#20) Hit The Bot One More Time (#69) 2110A (3069A)


So your 1 LG on a player isnt what we are discussing here, stop it with the BS and in fact STFU already.

Next thing you are going to say is that they had 0 defense which I have already shown you screenshots of some of those hits being done against well defended countries, so that is also BS... Maybe its true in a minority of the cases but either way these are not netting moves and they are not '1 LG on a player'.

Gerdler Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:05:12

These are just a half dozen of the 15+ sets you did this superfly... The forum doesnt allow me to post all the fcking BS you have put the express player base through the past half year.

Ratski Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:07:21

I am going to remind ye all this is a war game ! The last time I check, so defenses are part of the game. and if focusing the build dose not mean you don't cover yer butt with Turrets,to stop Br, or Tanks to stop AB's these cost money to support I agree ! But as long as we have Stupid Hunger players we have to deal with them with is easy because Stupid dose not hind his ID, he uses the same name every set, so he makes him self easy to spot, and be a easy target.

currydubs Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:28:08

Originally posted by Ratski:
I am going to remind ye all this is a war game ! The last time I check, so defenses are part of the game. and if focusing the build dose not mean you don't cover yer butt with Turrets,to stop Br, or Tanks to stop AB's these cost money to support I agree ! But as long as we have Stupid Hunger players we have to deal with them with is easy because Stupid dose not hind his ID, he uses the same name every set, so he makes him self easy to spot, and be a easy target.


And I'm going to remind you to stop running a rainbow

Gerdler Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:31:07

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Negative examples of player diplomacy:
* NPCs countries cannot engage in diplomacy.
* Players who are unwilling to engage in diplomacy. For example, deciding that the goal of a reset is to destroy another player's country before the reset even begins.


Originally posted by Slagpit:

Negative examples of conflict:
* NPCs countries cannot attack or spy other countries.
* Players pretending to be NPC countries in order to force other players into war.
* Players engaging in cross server attacks.
* Players griefing other players.
* Clan server OOP wars under most circumstances.
* Clan wars on the final day of a reset under most circumstances.
* A player "suiciding" a clan under most circumstances.

Originally posted by Slagpit:

One last thing to discuss is the negative examples that cannot be resolved with better NPC code and cannot be resolved in a reasonable matter with coding, guardrails, or server rules. I understand very well that different players have different ideas in terms of what should be considered to be a negative example. At the end of the day, the admins are going to be strongly biased against behaviors that drive players from the game. I do not believe that a player with bad intentions who drives ten other players from the game is more important then the ten lost players. I kindly ask players who view most of the negative examples listed here as acceptable to evaluate why you choose to play this game. There are millions of free games out there to play. This may not be the right game for you.

Getafix Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 0:55:34

Behavior like that by Superfly as shown above is completely destructive to the game, and should be sanctioned. Same with whoever plays "Hungry".

SuperFly Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:10:23

The problem with having the attack button is that I can go ahead and make ONE PS on Gerdler, Getafix, TMAC or whoever and nail them for 2k land.

That will piss them off and to them that qualifies as griefing because I SHOULD not be LGing players when I have 80 bots at my disposal to farm into the ground.

So now that they are pissed off because I have “griefed” them with ONE LG they will either make ONE retal to not void GDI and give me the FS and play mad the rest of the set. OR they will try to wreck me by multi taping me back something that Getafix or Gerdler have done to me in the past and still acuse me of griefing.

Clearly if you want no drama and you don’t want everyone’s interpretation of what griefing means to them than you need to remove the ability to attack players all together.

It is very simple. No player attacks, no crying by anyone, farm bots only, carry 0 defense and win. The 12 people that play here myself included jerk each other off because we are so 1337 at bot farming and we all profit.

For reals this is the way

SuperFly Game profile

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:14:02

I honestly don’t understand why players like Gerdler and Getafix among others, want to have the ability to attack players when they don’t intend to use it and in turn will get upset when others use that ability against them.

It is seriously in everyone’s best interest to remove the ability all together no?

Those who are against removing the attacking ability but then get upset over being hit by another player be it once or twice or 20 times clearly do not know that they actually want out of the game.

Edited By: SuperFly on Dec 11th 2021, 1:16:48

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:23:23

I would be glad if Superfly's account was deleted and I didn't have to read any more of his BS. There's no sporting attitude or gamesmanship, and no honesty. I just plain don't like the game with people like Superfly playing. I play to try to win on NW, or i play to war sometimes, but its absolutely no fun having your country wrecked and wasting your time because of an idiot who puts no effort into his country and who has no interest in a fair fight, but is just there to be a griefer and chase people out of the game. fluff Superfly.

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:26:04

I guess build your country with defenses and technologies and get allies to prevent attacks because you will always have players attacking other players unless you remove the ability to attack from the game all together

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:32:07

Originally posted by currydubs:
Originally posted by Ratski:
I am going to remind ye all this is a war game ! The last time I check, so defenses are part of the game. and if focusing the build dose not mean you don't cover yer butt with Turrets,to stop Br, or Tanks to stop AB's these cost money to support I agree ! But as long as we have Stupid Hunger players we have to deal with them with is easy because Stupid dose not hind his ID, he uses the same name every set, so he makes him self easy to spot, and be a easy target.


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Dec 11th 2021, 1:39:27

Imagine being called out as a griefer by multiple people above, and still trying to gaslight everyone.

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:44:53

Thats true Rocky, and I think some people are playing Express right now with ridiculously low defenses and poor spies. From that point of view, people can expect to be attacked if they are very weak. But there is no defense from a determined player in Express. We went through a period of months or years where you needed 10m jets and 140% weapons to play Express and not get topfed.

Superfly is being a total asshole in the examples shown above. There's no good reason for him to do multiple strikes on everyone like that to wreck their countries. He's just exploiting the the game to drive people away. If people are consistently assholes, we should get rid of them. Who fluffing needs it? I was forced into multiple sets of war on Team by Superfly when he AB'd everyone in my Team right out of protection, for no reason except to be a griefer. I didn't have time for war every set, and I quit.

If someone is an antisocial nuisance in a community in real life, they are warned or fined, or jailed. We shouldn't have to code the game to stop attacks.. the game is great. We should stop the obnoxious behaviour of the small monority of people like Superfly with sanctions.

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:45:43

correction: 10m turrets :)

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:50:54

Originally posted by SuperFly:
The problem with having the attack button is that I can go ahead and make ONE PS on Gerdler, Getafix, TMAC or whoever and nail them for 2k land.

That will piss them off and to them that qualifies as griefing because I SHOULD not be LGing players when I have 80 bots at my disposal to farm into the ground.


Did you just cook up a definition about griefing to look like the victim as a counter argument? when it's already proven a few posts above that you do the majority of the real griefing? LOL

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Dec 11th 2021, 1:54:43

Getafix you are absolute POS. Maybe just leave again.

In team server i would LG you once. You would either retal once and cry or AB over one LG.

You come her and you say that you don’t play because of me but you are constantly here crying about me.

Currydubs if I PS you once next set will you be upset and accuse me of screwing your over?

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:02:41

we need the admins/moderators to read this and act on this if possible.

if they have no time for this, at least get some of the guys here who are more active to have some sort of power to impose sanctions on players who are just out to ruin everyone else's game.

i'm totally fine with players grabbing players, if u just do a single tap or a nice PS.

however when u hit a human player like 5x in a row, you are just being an idiot.

just read what everyone else has posted. we are not trying to gang up on you here but the all facts are stated above.



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Dec 11th 2021, 2:06:11

i stopped playing express already cos of all the bullfluff i have experienced.

i mean we put in effort in searching for targets to hit, and it is all undone by some idiot who doesnt give a rat ass about this game.

so many players have stopped playing express, some have even stopped playing this because of all the actions of those few idiotic players.

i guess the day "these ppl would be happiest" would be when it is just the 3/4 of them playing against 200 bots. HAHAHAHA

HUNGRY CAN GO UP AGAINST SUPERFLY AND RATSKI + WHOEVER



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Dec 11th 2021, 2:08:24

Originally posted by cordycsw:

i guess the day "these ppl would be happiest" would be when it is just the 3/4 of them playing against 200 bots. HAHAHAHA

HUNGRY CAN GO UP AGAINST SUPERFLY AND RATSKI + WHOEVER


Superfly might finally win a set :O

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:09:36

So why won’t anyone answer as to why they feel it’s important or crucial to their game play to have the ability to attack another player?

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:11:01

Originally posted by currydubs:
Originally posted by cordycsw:

i guess the day "these ppl would be happiest" would be when it is just the 3/4 of them playing against 200 bots. HAHAHAHA

HUNGRY CAN GO UP AGAINST SUPERFLY AND RATSKI + WHOEVER


Superfly might finally win a set :O


Go check scores. I have won this game multiple times
There is also player here who has played more rounds of express than me.

But thanks for chirping bro :)

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:13:50

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Getafix you are absolute POS. Maybe just leave again.

In team server i would LG you once. You would either retal once and cry or AB over one LG.

You come her and you say that you don’t play because of me but you are constantly here crying about me.

Currydubs if I PS you once next set will you be upset and accuse me of screwing your over?


Keep on lying Superfly. As you know, your landgrab 3 years ago was in the last 5 days of a 30 day set, before I had jumped and after you had jumped. You were just wrecking my finish, like any griefer would. It was not a midset landgrab that could be retaled, and you had a million tanks and ten million turrets. We fought for 3 or 4 sets over that. It was months after that war that you AB'd everone in HCaFC out of protection, and you were playing solo. So fluff off, you lying POS griefer. I really hope we can finally get rid of you. All you have ever done is fluff people's sets up, because you can't net, because you are lazy and stupid as well as an asshole.

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:17:58

Originally posted by SuperFly:


Go check scores. I have won this game multiple times
There is also player here who has played more rounds of express than me.

But thanks for chirping bro :)


I can't bro, your stats are hidden. You must be embarrassed to showcase what a fluffshow of a country you run.

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:18:57

Originally posted by Getafix:
Originally posted by SuperFly:
Getafix you are absolute POS. Maybe just leave again.

In team server i would LG you once. You would either retal once and cry or AB over one LG.

You come her and you say that you don’t play because of me but you are constantly here crying about me.

Currydubs if I PS you once next set will you be upset and accuse me of screwing your over?


Keep on lying Superfly. As you know, your landgrab 3 years ago was in the last 5 days of a 30 day set, before I had jumped and after you had jumped. You were just wrecking my finish, like any griefer would. It was not a midset landgrab that could be retaled, and you had a million tanks and ten million turrets. We fought for 3 or 4 sets over that. It was months after that war that you AB'd everone in HCaFC out of protection, and you were playing solo. So fluff off, you lying POS griefer. I really hope we can finally get rid of you. All you have ever done is fluff people's sets up, because you can't net, because you are lazy and stupid as well as an asshole.



Quoted you for the truth here Getafix. So because I land grabbed you once after I had jumped to runaway from a retal you took that as a griefer hit.

So what your dumb ass is saying is that if I PS you after a certain amount of days or if I have a certain amount of miltery that interferes with your retal I am griefing you?

Well screw off and vote for removal of player to player attacks.

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:19:23

Originally posted by currydubs:
Originally posted by SuperFly:


Go check scores. I have won this game multiple times
There is also player here who has played more rounds of express than me.

But thanks for chirping bro :)


I can't bro, your stats are hidden. You must be embarrassed to showcase what a fluffshow of a country you run.


All time leaders board is not hidden

but here you go:


Game Profile for SuperFly on the Express Server

Best Finish: First


Leaderboard Rankings
Leaderboard Score Rank
Networth $9,727,761,727 #1
Land 10,969,977 #1
Top 100 561 #1
Top 10 257 #1

Edited By: SuperFly on Dec 11th 2021, 2:24:41

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:20:21

Keep spinning Superfly. Its worked for you so far

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:23:15

Originally posted by Getafix:
Keep spinning Superfly. Its worked for you so far


yes here is your own words "on the last 5 days of a 30 day set, before I had jumped and after you had jumped".

if I had it done it on the last 10 days before you jumped and before i jumped it would have been ok right?

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:24:09

Originally posted by SuperFly:

All time leaders board is not hidden

but here you go:


Game Profile for SuperFly on the Express Server
Overall Express Alliance Team Primary Free For All Tournament


Best Finish: First


Leaderboard Rankings
Leaderboard Score Rank
Networth $9,727,761,727 #1
Land 10,969,977 #1
Top 100 561 #1
Top 10 257 #1


Holy fluff. I bow down to your endurance to have played this game for so long but still can't net HAHAHAHAHAH

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:30:30

Originally posted by currydubs:
Originally posted by SuperFly:

All time leaders board is not hidden

but here you go:


Game Profile for SuperFly on the Express Server
Overall Express Alliance Team Primary Free For All Tournament


Best Finish: First


Leaderboard Rankings
Leaderboard Score Rank
Networth $9,727,761,727 #1
Land 10,969,977 #1
Top 100 561 #1
Top 10 257 #1


Holy fluff. I bow down to your endurance to have played this game for so long but still can't net HAHAHAHAHAH


yea I have outlasted a lot of crybabies thats for sure...

Getafix you ready to take you ball and go home now?

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:31:40

Originally posted by SuperFly:

yea I have outlasted a lot of crybabies thats for sure...


That doesn't make sense. You're still here.

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:33:10

Originally posted by currydubs:
Originally posted by SuperFly:

yea I have outlasted a lot of crybabies thats for sure...


That doesn't make sense. You're still here.


do you see me crying about the bad guy who is LGing soft babies? Nope sorry I am the so called bad guy that is making all of you babies cry :)

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:47:11

I'm not planning on going home and quitting, no. I like the game, but I hate to see people abusing the game like you do, and your lies and bullfluff all the time. You think that it is admirable to play and use force to wreck the game for everyone. Its the same with people who use guns irresponsibly and shoot people. The problem isn't guns, its people who are not responsible enough to own one. All your experience in playing has led you to be a bully who knows how to wreck people's countries, not someone who has respect for the game and the other players. You are a destructive force in this game and all you so is drive people away, and the game would be better without you.

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Dec 11th 2021, 2:54:42

Then do something about it and fight me back and drive me out big guy. You sure as hell failed in team and you will fail here. All you are good for is trying to play the victim and crying about how I gone done and did you wrong 5 years ago.

This is my garbage restart and yes I copied Hungrys name and no i do not know who he is. I just copied his name for the hell of it.

Hungry (#105)
(Fascism)
Rank: 96
Networth: 939,245
Land: 6583
Successful Attack Percentage: 84.62%
GDI Member
Restarted From
Rip Wheeler (#14)

Edited By: SuperFly on Dec 11th 2021, 3:02:47

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Dec 11th 2021, 3:04:02

I am doing something about it right now, Superfly, by stating my agreement with Gerdler. I have taken up the challenge with you plenty of times, and neither won nor lost on the various wars we have fought. But its you that always starts the wars, and these days you have become a complete fluffing jerk to everyone. Its time to clean this game up and get rid of people who have nothing but contempt for the game and the other players.

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Dec 11th 2021, 3:21:14

so you are doing nothing sounds about right. Btw I also spoke with Gerdler today on IRC. Very civil and constructive chat. Not sure what will come out of it but as of right now I am completely within rules and guidelines so dunno.

So what do you think Getafix should we keep the player on player attacks but limited to one hit and make sure that we are within 48 hrs of set end and before the military prices increases and before it inconveniences you?

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Dec 11th 2021, 3:46:29

No Superfly, just keep wrecking everyone's countries with 10 hits with your worthless throwaway countries, until its not worth playing the game and everyone just quits in disgust at the waste of time.

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Dec 11th 2021, 4:14:22

Originally posted by Getafix:
No Superfly, just keep wrecking everyone's countries with 10 hits with your worthless throwaway countries, until its not worth playing the game and everyone just quits in disgust at the waste of time.


Why not just try to win anyways? especially if a lot of players get hit it's likely you still have a chance to win

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Dec 11th 2021, 5:59:39

maybe he's the one who always get hit every set.

Originally posted by Rocky79:
Originally posted by Getafix:
No Superfly, just keep wrecking everyone's countries with 10 hits with your worthless throwaway countries, until its not worth playing the game and everyone just quits in disgust at the waste of time.


Why not just try to win anyways? especially if a lot of players get hit it's likely you still have a chance to win



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Dec 11th 2021, 7:21:47

@Superfly I think the premise or perhaps intent of your words at least are fair, that attacking other players should be a part of the game, and players should plan to carry reasonable defense or can expect to receive attacks as appropriate. However, the method that this sort of action has been carried out in practice, I cannot agree with. And since I have not personally had any experiences with you, I will only speak to other instances where I have experienced this sort of thing from Hungry.

Again, keeping players honest by ensuring they keep defenses and by leaving the availability of attacks in the game is fair. But what is not fair is spending the whole set outperforming the average and then getting targeted by a focused effort to grief a set. And players have been doing this without consequence for months now. What is the recourse for the players trying to actually play the game properly? Kill off that griefing country? Okay, easy, because those countries are actually trash countries that are purpose built to ruin other's sets, they would have no chance of being competitive in the set. Then what? Oh, they just restart, and target you again, forcing you to kill them again. Every. Single. Reset. Without pause. There is no consequence to the repeated griefing.

We have talked about this before. Grabbing humans is fine given you actually use the land and try to win. Spamming strikes without any intention of competing, but only for the purpose of ruining others' sets is not within the spirit of the game, and this behavior should get the consequence it deserves.

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Dec 11th 2021, 13:51:35

Thats well said TwoPodRay.

This is the Express thread, and I'm a long time Express player, as is Gerdler. I suggest a punishment for Superfly's griefing this year on Express rather than a complete deletion. I propose that Superfly be barred from Express for 1 year. There's something that I'm sure can be coded. I've been barred for a year from my favorite bar, and hey, its not the end of the world. its effective in leading to an attitude adjustment when you return.

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Dec 11th 2021, 14:21:10

I'd be happy if a mod simply acknowledged that military sanctions exist. That could be all it takes.