I attack countries my OA/DA/IAs attack all the time because I can see how much military they sent and what their returns are.

Sometimes, it saves 1-5 turns spying and spying allies if you have a rough estimate of the break.

Just to flog the horse a bit more, remember this when people wonder why more folks aren't playing this game.

Imagine I am a first-time player. I want to jump in, so I go for "express" since that's the one where you can start fresh every week. Server rules say "no clans," and I'm certainly not in a "clan" as I'm brand new to this game and don't even know what a clan is! So I start building my country.. Hey, this game is pretty cool. Oh, I can form relations with other players; some dude just messaged me and asked if I want to be def allies. Sweet!

Hey, my news feed says I lost military because somebody hit my def ally! I hit the perpetrator and send a message saying if they mess with my ALLIES they mess with me!!

The next day I log in and find my country has been deleted for "cheating." I am angry, as I don't even realize I have violated a vague, unwritten rule. I leave the game, and never ever look back.

You're allowed to attack people that attack your allies... What you're not allowed to do it team up and try to kill someone.

But I do agree, there should be a written rule in the server details that says team play is grounds for deletion.

Yeah, that's really all I'm saying (well, I *do* think some of the "no team work" rule is taken too far so it's not quite all I'm saying).. If the rule is serious enough that consequence is losing your country, it needs to be specific and spelled out in a way that one can follow it. There is no better way to piss someone off than to punish them for something they didn't even realize was "wrong."

hmm missed that hit,

Why aren't you allowed to find friends team up and kill someone? That's how to recruit new blood into the game. smlandau84 is merely making up rules to cover up his lies. The rules say "No alliances" that's fairly clear. There's no "grounds for deletion" if I'm not playing in an alliance. Cut and dry. BILL DANGER's hypothetical is exactly what's happened to me. Fortunately, I'm not a newbie and I'm not leaving. I'm going to find fresh new allies in the next server, identify smlandau84's country and we're going to hunt him down and kill him.

If he's too fraidy-cat to face me in this server, i'll take him in the next.

Not my fault if he's no good at diplomacy and social skills...

Poor old USS Enterprise E, was a newbie however, and his country got blown up. I messaged him the following nevertheless:

AW, not really. According to the rules, we're not really allowed to continue our co-operation after the server resets. Technically, that WOULD be forming an alliance and cheating.

If you like, you're welcome to join my clan in the alliance game. It's called MD (or Moral Decay). I'm in Ruth's division over there and I'm sure we'd be happy to have you. Tell them paygan recommended you at the following link -

http://www.boxcarhosting.com/...application.php?clanID=MD

Nice playing with you. Hope to bump into you again!

Regards,

Paygan

Ummmm none of the enterprise countries are noobs.

I look forward to deleting you and your friends next set

I don't understand at all... what did I lie about?

Find me in 1a, I'm Mr Titanium

Or find me in team, I run the sexysexy tag

I don't play express much anymore, and likely wont next set or anytime soon

You missed a lot it would seem.

2013-02-15 09:59:01 SS USS Enterprise E (#62) Juju Land (#67) 106A (241A)
2013-02-15 09:51:34 PS Enterprise NX0l (#35) Juju Land (#67) 183A (375A)

And this...

2013-02-15 21:04:56 PS USS Enterprise E (#62) Welcome To Thunderdome (#5) 267A (454A)
2013-02-15 20:26:41 PS Enterprise NX0l (#35) Welcome To Thunderdome (#5) 650A (1035A)

That 3 hits go reread my post

I said there was 2 hits plus the one I missed equals 3

Why is my name everywhere? Even when I login once like every 10 hours.

what?

You are right Warster that USS wasn't a newb. He replied saying he'd tried to join MD before. Perhaps he'll have more success next time.

Regarding your threat to delete me and the friends that I have not made yet in the coming express server - what for? I haven't broken any rules. Would you kindly explain the reason for deleting my country and future allies? You still have yet to do so especially if your chicken-licken pal isn't playing next server as your decision in the previous one seems entirely motivated to help his country out.

Paygan, let me guess... You weren't at the top of your class in school?

Bye

*walks in, looks around*

/facepalm

*grabs a beer, keeps reading*

/facepalm

SOLO SERVER!

*walks out*