OMFG...how stupid are you really? have you even paid any attention at all to our numerous posts on our stance toward self farming? or even know the reason why we decd on xGD in the first place?..

Firstly, we dont support self farming. THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU CANNOT DO IT!! you can do whatever the F*** you want with your countries. NBK just won't pact you because of it and you will not get our support in any shape or form in the game. We have our reasons why we dont like the idea of self farming...and thats OUR BUSINESS. Just like you have your own ethics when playing the way you play this game. For example, you might not like the idea of farming untags cos you think it drives new players away from the game. THATS YOUR CHOICE. But its not againnt the rules and noone is making you play that way. NBK and other clans are not "making" anyone do anything. we choose to play a certain way and thats it. dont like it?..fine! like you said...we dont give 2 flying f***s!! play the way you wanna play..there are clans that still self farm so go join one of them if your alliance has decided to not support self farming. how hard is that? not very.
Secondly, we did not declare war on GD this set because they self farm. so why dont you do some research on this one before you even go there, because it only makes you look like a tool.

i love when people go flying off the handle over something that i never even said LOL

good one RIU, i wont even waste my time with a response.

Bring the PAIN!

Pretty much definition of a troll, although us NBK folk are pretty easy targets admittedly. We deal with stuff straightforward, put our cards on the table. We may not flex very much, but the policies we do have, we stick by, for better or for worse to the letter.

i never tried to take that away from you. good on you for standing by your morals, or whatever youd like to call it. i never said you were wrong for disagreeing with self farming, so long as you are not punishing someone else for doing it (aside from trying to steal fat land :P)

point still remains, i never claimed you guys dec'd us or anyone over self farming as RIU Based his whole rant on, not sure how im a troll because he made something up in his head and freaked out about it.

It might be possible that people are letting the rhetoric get out of hand?

erm...my whole response was based on an entire quote of yours n00b.

"what you fail to realize is what DOES hurt the game is warring clans attacking netting clans because they refuse to play the way warring alliances want them to. do you understand what im saying here? youre trying to dictate how people should play the game."

you're clearly suggesting we decd on PAN because we dont want them self farming. and then claim that you never said that? LOL. you're not very good at arguing a point are you. you'd be no good in court :-P
its not that you dont want to waste your time with a response, its because you dont have one.

Any war NBK was in did not involve self farming whatsoever. Keep in mind, NBK's first 3 sets of ffa, were clans (/multiple clans) getting the drop on us. I am HoW, and the only way I can make sure we don't get attacked unexpectedly, is attack first. We tried to net, but everytime someone saw that as a vulnerability, and tried to kill us. Ironically enough attacking is more self defense then anything, most of us would be content to just sit here and landgrab people for the set.

And Pain, I wasn't referring to just this thread for the troll comment :P You know it, I know it, but Ill still bite ;)

THIS IS FREE FOR ALL!

do yall fools really have to turn EVERYTHING we talk about on this server into an self farming issue?

i am in pan, i opt to not self farm, but i couldn't care less that others are doing it, when i joined pan i didn't even know it existed lol... you know if someone is self farming and you know that if you are the best non-self farmer than you can consider yourself the best of the netters not doing it..

perhaps the game needs 2 separate leader boards? one for self farmers, and one for non self farmer? lol

another thing i dont understand is why warring clans would ever give 2 fluffs about it at all.. you dont net, wtf do you care? maybe im just too stoned right now to comprehend it..

dont like it? dont do it.

ffs, mind yo bizness

;)

Link, wtf are you doing awake this early on a sunday!

i honestly have no idea lol

hahahahaha

actually i wasnt suggesting that at all. since focus also does some self farming, although i think drippler might be the only one left who actually does it, wouldnt i have claimed that the reason for focus also?

i know self farming was not the reason you declared, i can see where you MIGHT get the idea i was hinting towards that but it certainly was not my meaning. its a shame Focus and NBK were great allies at one point, but were certainly not going to change the way we play just to remain your friends, and we wouldnt expect you to either.

I command all of thee to commence ONE LG/day on a tag other then your own.. that would be a start to bringing life back into this game

cause when a warring clan LGs a self farmer, they come here and make a thread to fluff and whine.

PM your numbers next set, i have no problem doing that :)

I am interested in reading these threads. Can you link me to a few of the most recent ones? Thanks.

All these war mongers pissing and moaning about what the netters do with their own turns, and which has no effect on them whatsoever, is oddly entertaining.

Keep it up LaEdies.

If people were willing to do that to me, I would have my numbers on FFAT everyset. Ill take you up on that Slag next set!

self farmers that fluff and whine about being grabbed are just silly to me lol

No self farmers have complained about being grabbed. They all know they need to put their countries into DR otherwise their country is fat and juicy.

The only thing i have seen self farmers say is, (excuse my french) fluff off and mind your own business because its is their choice of how they play their turns.


Case closed.

Most of the whining is not from this set, as everyone who grabs is in war. But I assure you that there is plenty of whining when we are grabbing :)

not really, your pretty easy to retal back for more land, I did it quite a few times this set :P

now with that being said, some things need to be addressed, as in how the hell NBK instantly turned into defence mode when Pain never addressed anyone specific in his 'discussion'

secondly, the self farming alligations are getting old, for an alliance that didnt self farm this set, the constant accusations and sterotyping that we have is getting annoying.

Its cause your fellows were blaming our fellows in chat for a while of running scripts and stuff. Not true and not cool. NBK dislikes self farming in general because in our opinion it isn't fair. We dislike cheating far more then we dislike anything else, and insinuating that we were in fact using scripts is an insult.

wow, so far wrong.
in fact, one player whined so much over 1 grab he deleted his 16. :P

Everyone is talking about a post made in August?

And posts in december!
We don't get the chance to not be in a war very often, but when we aren't people complain more then when we are in one.

so you are stereotyping EVERY self farmer over something dragon did like 6 months ago? you still havent shown us all these self farmers that are whining about being grabbed?

Buahahaha i knew fordy would mention the 3sec kill :p

Me me i was one of the 6 hitters :)

he was pretty excited when that happened lol

stupid statement.
when we are warring, we arn't grabbing, and the whining stops. least on that subject :P

He was like WTF.. for about a minute.. and then holy fluff for another in the chat lol

only because you do stuff to attempt to get into a war :P

self farming is not against the game rules and you will not be deleted for it. If it was the game mechanics would probably be altered to prevent you from doing it at all but as far as I know there are no plans to do anything like that at this point.

Using firefox tabs and the keyboard alone without additional programming aid does not qualify as using as script/cheating. It probably isn't good for your hand or keyboard though:P

If you see hits that look suspiciously fast, please feel free to report that to me or a game admin and we will investigate.

remember back in the day where if you hit 2 fast you'd get suspended, only thing mehul did right, lol

Man I had so many 2 day suspensions for pressing enter too fast, lol.

Yeah but maybe like an hour pan or excalating bans I don't remember what his was but I feel like it was 36 hours

back in the day mehul deducted turns for swearing. it was very unfluffy:P

im bored so i would like to point out that NBK is guilty of pointing fingers too :)

http://forums.earthempires.com/...p?threadid=687&page=1

Donny/Billy was deleted for cheating.
And we had to start speedkilling to be able to kill stuff.

yes but not for a spybot. :)

i try to speed kill but its a pain in the ass to try to navigate tabs quickly on a laptop without an external mouse and you guys get on too quick to wall :(

the upside is its right next to me in my bed, and by instinct if my phone rings and wakes me up the first thing i do is open my laptop lol.

Pain if you are going to dig up 10 month old posts to try to make your self look less like an idiot in a thread you started, atleast read all of this 10 month old thread.

First of all the accusations in that thread actually had some base in fact, as opposed to the completely baseless, whiny "you guys kill me too fast so you must be cheating" crap you guys have been spewing.

Not only that but QM later admitted he must have been wrong about the supposed spy bot. All you guys have done is try to shift the argument to make yourself look less stupid and say "haha you guys are touchy I was really talking about why people shouldnt care about self farming."

Who the hell are you trying to kid man?

*yawns*

This is more entertaining then the game, especially when Sauron has his panties in a bunch.

I never thought a spybot existed :P

ANYTHING'S more entertaining than the game...it's mostly why we're all still here...

sauron i didnt know the age of a thread mattered? does my point not still stand? you guys freaked out over someone who was better at walling then you and screamed bot at the first chance you could. so that makes you a hyprocrite for claiming someones cheating cause theyre faster/better then you at something if youre gonna fluff at me about doing the same thing lol.

anyways that was never the point of my thread and i was never thought or considered you were ACTUALLY cheating in any way, my whole intention was to get a specific response which i got within the first couple posts. but it was no fun for me to let the thread die at that point.

the only point you guys made that was correct in that thread was QM pointing out that someone was running 30 countries with a safelist.

Pain, you should read a thread before you start trolling. Everything you said was nullified because you posted "Proof" we are guilty of accusing people...

"Message from xxxx (#xxx) sent on 04/17/2010 05:28:44
:-/ i have a bot that alerts me when im being spyed etc. its great ! too bad i cant use these killing scripts i have :( "

Someone from the opposing side was the one that made claims, and said he was cheating. Granted there may have been one or two members in NBK that believed him, but there is a difference between being gullible, and being a hypocrite.

If you are gonna be a douche, at least do it right :P

As for the person with the safe list, his countries were deleted the same set, he claimed it was from market interaction...

there you go again picking and choosing what you want to respond to in my posts. and I know you guys actually thought we were cheating cause crippler was talking to me about it in irc last week and i didnt know what the fluff he was talking about. so don't give me this " i was trying to get you guys riled up" bullfluff.

And not only that, if that wasm't the point of your thread then why go outta your way to try to make some NBKers look as dumb as you by digging up some ancient thread?

The whole point of the last thread was to show that the accusations didn't just come from the fact that we kept running into stonewallers. we recived a message from an aodt'er saying they had some sort of bot, also that instead of shifting the arguement, which by the way i'm sure is fooling no one, QM actually admited to being wrong.

and crippler, so what if I've "got my panties in a bunch"? I've stated many times over that i will defend nbk from doucehe's like pain on ffat.