Carpe Cerevisi Foreign Affairs Announcment

mrford

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:42:25

Carpe Cerevisi has decided to go 100% pactless this set. This is something we have been talking about and we feel that it gives us the most opportunity to have a fun set.

We will be following this retal policy:

1:1 2:3 3:5 4:9 5:kill

if a tag hits us 2 times within 24 hours we will be taking x2 the retals.

this will be strictly enforced, and we hope that others will abide by it and preferably just avoid our tag all together.

If in the event that something stupid does happen, you can contact us in our brand new FA room. You can find this room here

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#CCFA

this is an adventure on our part to see how the server would treat a large unpacted clan. To all our former pacts, this is nothing personal, just something we want to do. Have a fun set and we shall see you on the field of battle.

Edited By: mrford on Mar 30th 2011, 19:45:37
See Original Post

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

DeDLySMuRF

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:49:11

This policy puts little pressure on small alliances and big pressure on big alliances.

1-2 person clan can avoid CC pretty easily, or hit once every 24hrs.

20 person clan will have to purposely avoid hitting into your tag.

Interesting policy though...

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LeftyHa8er

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:50:43

have fun

Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:52:29

Or 20 clans can grab them once a day. Every day. At least if I understand the policy correctly.

mdevol

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:52:52

we are trying to help out the little guys here...gives them a chance in this server

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Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:54:43

I'm trying to work out how it "helps" the little guy

mrford

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:56:52

Originally posted by Dragon:

Or 20 clans can grab them once a day. Every day. At least if I understand the policy correctly.

our retal policy for one country hitting us per tag per day is

1:1 2:3 3:5 4:9 5:kill

if 2 countries hit us in 1 day that is doubled

i dont understand what you are seeing

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:58:23

Wait. You mean that only 1 country on the entire server can grab you in a day at a 1:1 retal?

Are you insane?

mrford

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:59:54

please read. i hope you are just trying to troll here

its per tag

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

mdevol

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Mar 30th 2011, 19:59:55

troll

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LeftyHa8er

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:01:30

i think he means 1 country per tag can hit them once per day but i dont see that working but i am sure they know that and will be using this policy to pick a fight with anyone they want ;)

Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:03:07

Amd MY original comment was that 20 different tags could each hit you once per day. Every day.

I still don't understand how this is helping the little guys? I mean, we're not likely to grab you anyways because I would assume you can and will retal every hit. Losing acres to retals is not productive net gaining.

mrford

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:05:48

sure they can hit us once, and we will retal them once. thats the definition of 1:1 isnt it?

if someone tries to abuse this policy then we can easily put a stop to that. so i dont think anyone will

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:09:28

My comment was really to Dedly to begin with in terms of his opinion that somehow, this puts "big pressure" on big clans.

I was simply saying (to Dedly by using an arbitrary number of single grabs by discrete players/tags every day) that your policy does not necessarily reduce grabbing pressure on you or cause restriction to other clans.

I've always been of the mind that you only grab a tag once a day anyways. Call it etiquette or whatever.

LeftyHa8er

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:10:23

most tags allow the first 5 hits by a tag with all different countries hitting all different countries to be retaled 1 to 1

then jumping to the 1 to 2 on the 6th hit

but it will be an interesting set

Havoc

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:11:25

I take it this policy will be used against you as well?

ie, you won't be grabbing a tag more than 2 times in 24 hours?

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LeftyHa8er

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:12:08

oh i forgot that part nice call havoc

Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:13:55

Really.... 5, eh? Didn't know that.

Everyone should run unpacted, really. THAT would make for a more interesting set. People would certainly have to defend their acres a lot better than they do now in the larger clans.

In that way, CC is doing something that I've been a proponent of as long as I've played this game. Less pacts = greater opportuities.

Dragon

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:14:45

Originally posted by Havoc:

I take it this policy will be used against you as well?

ie, you won't be grabbing a tag more than 2 times in 24 hours?

More than ONCE in 24 hours.

Havoc

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:19:32

Ah. Fun.

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mrford

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:20:52

yes, we use this policy both ways.

look, if you dont like this policy, you have 2 choices

you can either not grab us
or
you can FS us

either way we win.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

JJosh

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:24:24

wow
oh yea,
troll

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DeDLySMuRF

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:33:26

@ Dragon

What I meant by my post is simple.

1 Player with 16 Countrys in his own tag can grab CC 1x per 24hrs Expecting 1:1 Retals.

20 Players with 320 Countrys in a Big Tag can grab CC 1x per 24hrs Expecting 1:1 Retals.

That Small 1 man tag can easily stay out of CC's news. That Big 20 person tag will have a much harder time.

Thus Small Tags > Big Tags hitting into CC this set.

In the long run, The Small Tags will be taking the brunt of those 20 member tags. Since the 20 member tags will not be hitting CC, they will likely farm the small tags instead.

But this is there policy. If they are willing to accept the same policy against them, then they as a big clan, can run with this if they want to. Its there decision.

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Twain

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Mar 30th 2011, 20:36:55

As long as you're willing to accept 2:1 retals if you guys hit other clans more than 1 time in a 24 hour period, I don't see any issue that's too major here.

It's obvious you're using this to potentially pick a fight, but hey, at least you're being fairly straightforward about it, and again, if you accept your policy the other direction, then you're being fairly reasonable about it.

Good luck to you guys and may you find a good war target for yourselves (that's not PANLV).

Havoc

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Mar 30th 2011, 21:00:23

Yeah, this kinda policy does encourage self-farming and bottomfeeding..

Havoc
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LeftyHa8er

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Mar 30th 2011, 21:04:15

its very 1a

Red X

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Mar 30th 2011, 21:06:02

this policy is bullfluff.

i just hope you enjoy having your own policy used on you, i would do that if i was in the other place. This policy seems to me its just here to start a fight but hell your a war alliance right...

anyway this will be fun too see....tho i do think its total bullfluff.

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mrford

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Mar 30th 2011, 21:11:52

we already said we accept the policy both ways. stop acting so butthurt

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

aponic

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Mar 30th 2011, 22:37:12

The policy suits our needs for the reset. We are not trying to change FFA and we are also not in-tag farming.

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QM Diver

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Mar 30th 2011, 22:58:18

Hmmm....

There might be a conflict... perhaps due to the notion that one would purposely need to respect this policy, by avoiding LG's..
I think we may be too lazy, or may simply not care, currently.. ;o) *Reviews the HFA roster..*

Nothing posted here helps the average nOOb, that is untagged, from getting reamed, ie. farmed and killed by CC. This happens frequently. :O(
So, let's say good bye to yet another, potential player, of the game, as the chances they will return are either slim, or none..

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snawdog

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Mar 30th 2011, 23:12:15

Total BS policy that,(imo),will cause more than 1 war..But hey,wadda i know.

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mrford

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Mar 31st 2011, 0:06:19

wow, a war clan having a policy that causes wars

thats weird isnt it?

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

crazyserb

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Mar 31st 2011, 0:18:53

"" Have a fun set and we shall see you on the field of battle.""

and youd think people would get that just form the above statement hehe:)

Heston

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:04:14

Originally posted by Red X:

Calm down it will be ok Red we are all resonalbe here, no?

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Bsnake

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:14:45

As long as I get to kill fluff...

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

mrford

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:16:50

get on IRC you lazy bastid

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Bsnake

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:19:25

I'm on the fluffty iPhone having lunch about 2 hours from home

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Heston

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:19:30

ffs

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mrford

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:20:22

ill iphone you!

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Bsnake

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:22:17

My number is listed on the site

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Makinso

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:26:43

WTF....

mrford

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:27:01

thats not what i ment

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Bsnake

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Mar 31st 2011, 1:52:07

I know

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Link

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Mar 31st 2011, 3:42:06

pleez dont be farmin teh SALT :P

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mdevol

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Mar 31st 2011, 4:46:02

there seems to be plenty of untagged to hit this reset. we wont need to farm the few out there...

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KeTcHuP

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Mar 31st 2011, 5:10:59

Is there a limit to the 2 times? Or is it continual?

IE if TKO grabs CC 6 times in 24 hours, would you retal 1*2 6 times so 32 times each?

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mrford

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Mar 31st 2011, 5:15:30

if it was 6 individual countries, we would retal each one 2x

but if it is obvious that you are trying to take advantage of this retal policy, we could just kill the offending countries.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

grunt

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Mar 31st 2011, 5:17:58

Need to take advantage of that!

Pain

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Mar 31st 2011, 6:52:53

id be a hypocrite to not support this policy. id say if anyone can enforce this now its CC.

i just need to know does this apply to all CC countries or just those that arent fords?

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mrford

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Mar 31st 2011, 7:13:40

what is that supposed to mean?

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford