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zodiac Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 6:22:34

dont kill me cos im killing imp. i was at war with them first.. silly police, your corrupt.

Tinysub[SYN] Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 14:27:17

zod. There isnt a war dec for either side. Technically you werent at war. You were a "suicider"

mike Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 14:48:06

zodiac didn't "suicide" on anyone. IMP went and killed him before he took any actions against them.
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Rockman Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 14:56:45

IMP hit him once, he retalled one time, then IMP started killing his countries. How does that make him a suicider? Do one man tags not have the right to 1:1 retals? Is a one man tag doing 1 retal against a country that hit them suiciding?

Tinysub[SYN] Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 15:18:01

rock thats not what im saying. There was no dec of war between the 2 of them. So there is no war. So zod isnt warring IMP.

IMP is warring CC. So he is considered a suicider for that reason. Unless he declares war.

Rockman Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 15:26:02

IMP initiated the conflict. He is retalling, not suiciding.

Chaoswind Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 15:41:39

Bah just make a nice little post
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LittleItaly Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 15:56:37

not all clans post a war dec....
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Chaoswind Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 16:11:07

IMP being one?
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jagernacht Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 17:16:00

hey tinysub... you here to tell me that if IMP hit SemperFi or TKO or NBK without a wardec, but CC is at war because of an IMP/CC dec of war, that as police, you'd try warring them? no one should feel proud that IMP has been doing this to small tags, much less defending them.


btw, if Zodiac declared war on IMP, it would make no difference, because as police, *if IMP/Zodiac weren't already at war*, Ares could still fight Zodiac.

being an idiot and a jerk don't necessarily have to coincide, but you make it happen, eh?
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Tinysub[SYN] Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 17:46:27

ok we can take it that way.

Lets say IMP hit any of those with no dec. It would be considered a war. They are all established clans with more then 1 person.

But zod is nothing compared to that he is a 1 man tag. We got our ass beat my SF and zod ran off and made his own tag. Everyone would consider a 1 man tag hitting clans at war a suicider.

If we were in 1a. If 2 clans were at war and some random ass person hit one of the 2 clans. Would he be considered part of the war? Or a simple suicider and be killed by police.

Its the police job to stop outside interference. With as many people IMP has pissed off. Are you saying pretty much the whole server has the right to jump in and hit IMP.

Whats the point of ares policing if apparently its alright for whoever IMP has pissed off to hit them. If he wants to hit IMP so bad. Why doesnt he just tag CC?

Im friends with zod, I know he has every right to hit IMP. What im saying is its the police job to kill him. Because its their job. In terms of the war CC vs IMP a 1 man tag is a suicider. Plain and simple.

Rockman Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 18:17:38

Tinysub - you get it now. There is no point of Ares policing.

diez Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 18:23:52

For what it's worth, a tag with 16 countries tagged might not be played by only 1 player. It could be 2 players with time constraint so they play less than 16 countries.

Not all 16-countries tag are one-man tags.

LittleItaly Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 18:35:16

"If we were in 1a. If 2 clans were at war and some random ass person hit one of the 2 clans. Would he be considered part of the war? Or a simple suicider and be killed by police."

There is no random person hitting IMP though because IMP involved them, and so there is no outside interference for Ares to be killing things for.
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jagernacht Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 18:35:26

Originally posted by Rockman:
Tinysub - you get it now. There is no point of Ares policing.


This. and what follows:

As for Ares having the *right* to kill off Zodiac, no. Ares becoming police doesn't nullify other wars. Ares becoming police prevents untags, tag jumpers and other tags that are not at war with IMP from doing what they would do. IMP is at war per:
http://forums.earthempires.com/...90585&z=imp-is-at-war

and they've yet to claim they wish to cease any actions. In fact, reading about the Mercs and llaar deals, you'd see there was never any intention of them wanting to do anything but war. It is apparently what they do. Looking at hit/kill stats, it's not what they do well, but they only war and everyone knows this.

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diez Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 18:36:08

anyway, go zod!! :D

PapaSmurf Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 19:45:29

Yeah that is BS if zod was being killed by police. If that's the case ares just needs to declare on all enemies of IMP. They can't just pick and chose countries to kill.

Rosco Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 20:08:16

Ok, since Im still with ares for a few more days I will answer to this.

I already posted in another thread that had IMP declared on CC it would be different. But they were declared on by CC. Outside of 72 hour retals this would be a violation and Police can take action. This may not be the way everyone does it but it's the way Ares does it. Agree with it or not. I don't like some of IMP's moves and bull fluff anymore than the next. That does not change the fact that we did pact them this set and we will stand by that pact.

So for the record: Any hits on IMP will be handled by Ares as per our Policing Standard.

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zodiac Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 20:48:15

i didnt need to make a war dec tiny, they dec war on me, by killing my countrys, they didnt finish me off so i continued killing them,

jagernacht Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 20:57:38

like PapaSmurf said, Ares should declare war on all those IMP did before. Do the right thing as an ally, not interfere with the many wars IMP has with the others. If IMP itself wanted to settle things, it would issue requests from those they had killed before asking that the police do it.

but also, like Rosco said, Ares can do whatever it wants. It can act as police however it wishes to. As long as it can defend itself from whatever recourse said tags decide to take on it. Considering theres like 2 countries OOP for IMP, it just looks like they are going to let the set go. They've actively chosen to not restart and so its almost a non-issue.

If Ares really wanted to be good allies, they could've found a way to declare on CC if they weren't already DPs. Bullying the already smashed tags that IMP messed with is foolish and arrogant.
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LittleItaly Game profile

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Sep 30th 2011, 15:54:13

So wars suddenly stop because another tag decs on the tag that started the other war? LOL i think not...

You can think what you want Ares, but that will probably get you killed one day.

That is retarded.
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RLintz Game profile

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Sep 30th 2011, 17:11:51

Originally posted by jagernacht:

if Zodiac declared war on IMP, it would make no difference, because as police, *if IMP/Zodiac weren't already at war*, Ares could still fight Zodiac.


No, Ares would police until that war was over.

If a gang bang started every time a DoW was posted, the whole server would be continues war. We may as well start Alfa and Bravo tags...

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Oct 1st 2011, 3:30:25

I vote for Charlie and Delta tags....
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