Jul 6 00:00 - Sep 3 23:59 Thread - Earth Empires Forum

Marshal

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Sep 2nd 2014, 19:18:17

Originally posted by blid:

techer who converted to military bases

so near whole set tmbr?

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Kingme

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Sep 2nd 2014, 19:21:50

Negative.

blid

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Sep 2nd 2014, 20:09:05

Originally posted by Marshal:

Originally posted by blid:

techer who converted to military bases

so near whole set tmbr?

no, convert to destock

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Marshal

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Sep 2nd 2014, 20:36:47

oh? that's very costy and requires alot turns (depending bpt (doubt 37 has much above 100 bpt)).

LATC

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Sep 2nd 2014, 20:44:51

Originally posted by Marshal:

oh? that's very costy and requires alot turns (depending bpt (doubt 37 has much above 100 bpt)).

On 21k that's like 210 turns - less than 4 full days - not too bad. Making 50% profit per unit of military for a few weeks was probably definitely worth it though, especially as a tax-free demo. Property taxes must be through the roof in his country though =P

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Kingme

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Sep 2nd 2014, 20:55:36

Probably was a strategic play, based on the poor tech prices (early).

They rebounded and then were quite profitable for primary. At least what I'm told anyway, i'm not very familiar with the primary market.

LATC

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Sep 2nd 2014, 21:00:07

Kingme I have 1 more post than u! now 2!

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Kingme

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Sep 2nd 2014, 21:05:50

I believe you will see it's 1 still :P

h2orich

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Sep 3rd 2014, 2:40:02

Originally posted by LATC:

Originally posted by Marshal:

oh? that's very costy and requires alot turns (depending bpt (doubt 37 has much above 100 bpt)).

50% profit? I dont think so, military was already at 120s-130s when he converted.
Tax-free demo? He's Theo.

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 2:52:22

My top 10 predictions:

Crest
--------------- 120m
eManny
Blid
Xinhuan
--------------- 110m
Serpentor
LATC
Oldman
Delphinus
--------------- 100m
Mysidia
Kingme

Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 2:59:40

Sep 2, 23:00 Sep 3, 00:00 $36 $40 $37.59 490,678,808

Who did that?

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Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 3:10:09

My guess is What The Dell.

LATC

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Sep 3rd 2014, 3:26:16

Originally posted by h2orich:

Originally posted by LATC:

Originally posted by Marshal:

oh? that's very costy and requires alot turns (depending bpt (doubt 37 has much above 100 bpt)).

50% profit? I dont think so, military was already at 120s-130s when he converted.
Tax-free demo? He's Theo.

Dang it why did I assume he was demo this whole time. Sigh my brain has been fried lately.

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 3:57:23

Someone literally just cleared every single bushel to $77. There's 195m there.

My top 10 predictions may no longer hold true for anyone that had profited from this market anomaly.

Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 3:58:03

Mmmhmmm...

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Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 3:59:42

Someone is aiding someone...

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Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:02:29

What the Dell has NW changes during both buyouts. It seems like enough bushels were purchased for him to actually have finished near the top 10 if he had purchased military units from his private and public markets instead.

eManny

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:09:38

What was the most expensive bushel batch sold for?

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:18:25

70m bushels at $48
42m bushels at $42
And over 200m at $40.
And about 300-400m at $38-39.

The $48 batch took several decreasing sales volume, indicating that it is probable that the buyer in turn sold to his PM to generate the money to repeat the process. In fact, the numbers match.

7,691,036 bushels --> 5,768,277 --> 4,326,208 --> 3,244,656 --> 2,433,492 --> 1,825,119 --> 1,368,839 --> 1,026,629

With each purchase having the ratio $36/$48 of the previous purchase.

Edited By: Xinhuan on Sep 3rd 2014, 4:21:29
See Original Post

Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:18:34

48 or something?

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eManny

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:19:39

If crest sold at $48 I just lost the set, lol

crest23

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:22:34

What the hell!

You don't have to worry about me dude, I was never in the running to win. You just lost the set still though, to who ever is behind this shenanigans.

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Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:22:43

Originally posted by eManny:

If crest sold at $48 I just lost the set, lol

I believe you already lost the set even if the food buyout didn't occur. See my wild predictions. :P

eManny

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:25:20

Nah, your predictions about me are wrong, I cannot know for the other countries though.

crest23

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:27:04

@ Xin, you think your blind predictions are more accurate than his valid calculation?

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eManny

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:27:08

I dont think anyone had the purchasing power to buyout the 400mil bushels on their own, so it's either a couple of countries or someone blew their entire stock on bushels which cost probably around what? $16B ?

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:27:16

Ok. Based on this information, move my prediction of eManny up by 10m NW. :)

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:28:48

Originally posted by crest23:

@ Xin, you think your blind predictions are more accurate than his valid calculation?

Of course not! That's why it is called a prediction!

crest23

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:29:17

@eManny, you just wash and rise. Easily done, I did it all the time in Express.

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crest23

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:31:23

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Originally posted by crest23:

@ Xin, you think your blind predictions are more accurate than his valid calculation?

Of course not! That's why it is called a prediction!

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

I believe you already lost the set even if the food buyout didn't occur. See my wild predictions. :P

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LATC

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:35:08

Crap, someone better put some cheap food on the market before I play my turns tmrw!

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:35:19

@eManny All that food bought was sold to PM at $36 to buyout more food, so the buyer didn't really need 16b cash. 10b would be enough. Also, it has to be a Demo, because of the $36/$48 matching math calculations. So, all matching evidence points to What the Dell as the only Demo that has NW changes during the buyout.

eManny

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Sep 3rd 2014, 4:35:39

I can tell you what my finish will be within 0.5M NW but that's not the point.

I really hope no one is cheating... lol

h2orich

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Sep 3rd 2014, 5:01:14

someone has learnt well from me.

Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 5:49:24

Someone f@cked me. Thanks a$$holes.

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silentwolf

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Sep 3rd 2014, 5:52:42

damn it.. sold my bushels in PM !!!!!!!!!!!!

and this had to happen...

Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 6:17:23

AHHHH got to play enough turns before bed. No more lost turns. Lol

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h2orich

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Sep 3rd 2014, 6:35:52

no food for u guys. I'm keeping all of mine at home.

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 7:27:22

My own food was recalled and en-route when it happened. :/

h2orich

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Sep 3rd 2014, 8:50:42

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

10b?

I would only need 2b to clear that.

Xinhuan

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Sep 3rd 2014, 10:12:46

4b actually!

The geometric sum of 0.75^0 + 0.75^1 + 0.75^2 + 0.75^3 + .... is equal to 4.

So you need 4b cash to buyout 16b worth of food, lose 1/4 cash value every time, if all food was $48. Since the majority of the food was less than 48, he probably only needed 3b cash.

oldman

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Sep 3rd 2014, 11:59:37

Originally posted by Kingme:

Was bored and wanted to try something new. It was a gamble for very high food price when I destock (prices did go up to $65 for a couple of hours and I was optimistic, at that point of time). If I had won the bet, I would have had a shot at winning. It never did turn out the way I expect, I sold my food for ~$46 average.

Cable

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Sep 3rd 2014, 15:41:46

This is amusing, Ive pulled this stunt in express and as long as the 1-2 other big farmers dont screw you it works well. I like to buy low sell high tuck is to not flood the market so people dont panic.

blid

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Sep 3rd 2014, 16:11:43

I think he's just liquidating food, not trying to resell. I don't think he'd have the money to buy out the market if he was trying to resell.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Serpentor

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Sep 3rd 2014, 17:07:09

I guess I'll be losing turns anyways. Damn...

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blid

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Sep 3rd 2014, 17:08:48

One time I spied on your Serp and you'd had 40 more turns than me over the course of the set somehow

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

eManny

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Sep 3rd 2014, 17:19:50

problem with gaming food this late in the set is that you have to go have lots of cash on hand to buyout meaning you've lost tons of money on corruption, and even if you buy at 37 and sell at like 45 it is debatable if it's even worth it compared to dumping on private once you've used all your turns on last day even if its only for $35. Not to mention that you have to have a large private market to be able to use the cash, otherwise you run the risk of further diminished return by purchasing expensive goods on the public market. It doesnt make sense to cash to like 8B cash then buy at $37 and sell because you've already lost significant value from the corruption... I'm pretty sure I did the calc once.