Need advice from you Netters please

KoHeartsGPA

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Oct 19th 2012, 20:03:17

So, reached 20k+ farms, my AG tech is 226% (room for upgrade) and im wondering if i should keep grabbing and growing or what?

All advices are appreciated, thank you!

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bstrong86

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Oct 19th 2012, 20:15:36

what!?!?!

KO netting.....

EE is doomed!!!

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Oct 19th 2012, 20:24:58

i probably wouldn't grab anymore, but if you do, it should only be for maybe 1 or 2 more days. what i would do is keep selling food as much as possible before the price crashes. invest the money to get your ag tech up to at least 700k tech points. you want to work on bus/res tech as well, but more important is getting military tech. eventually, youll have $2b on hand and need to stock food nad youre gonna want to be able to sell at $35 if you're with it at the end, and you're gonna want cheap prices to destock with on the private probably as well since public prices will be up on the last couple days.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Oct 19th 2012, 20:29:47

Lol, bstrong :)

Makes sence, thnx blid!

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Oct 19th 2012, 20:34:30

You should be able to make it to 40m nw.

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vintageplayer

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Oct 19th 2012, 23:12:45

wthefluff you netting? :P

OneMansArmy

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Oct 19th 2012, 23:39:35

And what amount of turrets should I have to keep that 30k land from being taken by the top 20 guys?

Other than Earth Empires I also play Battlefield games:
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Oct 19th 2012, 23:42:48

You should be safe now since attacks are dying off. I'm not sure there's really much you can do to stop guys from attacking you if they want to, though. Even if you had 25m turrets you might still get grabbed. The best way to avoid it is to either not have enough land for them to bother with, or to keep pace with them enough so they'll be afraid to hit you.

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OneMansArmy

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Oct 20th 2012, 0:18:00

Let me rephrase that question. At about what amount of turrets does it become more costly to land grab my 30k acres than what you would get on the returns.

Lets assume they are already roughly at 45k+ acres of land, and the returns are about 1000 acres (2000 Ghost Acres). Assuming no stock, so money/food/tech gained is not important.

Currently with my ~11mil turrets, when I get grabbed from these guys they lose around 1.1 million jets for the gains mentioned above.

I am curious to know how much do I have to make them lose in the attacks so that the smart ones at least maybe decide not to grab me based on a cost/benefit perspective.

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crest23

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Oct 20th 2012, 0:35:11

I don't go that far out in my math in the game. If you are fat enough and I have used a turn to spy, I am hitting you. As long as you are not in DR and are within my grabbing phase.

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blid

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Oct 20th 2012, 1:33:26

Well that changes all set OneMansArmy. The more turns left the more jets it's worth losing hey?

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grimjoww

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Oct 20th 2012, 10:28:34

you've turned into a netter???!?!

oldman

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:20:48

lol Koh, keep the food prices low. You're hurting my finish.

KoHeartsGPA

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:26:17

Denied, oldman :p

oldman

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:33:49

alternative - grab KoH, but that lowers food supply and drives up prices more =(

Xinhuan

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:36:53

Yeah, I avoided grabbing KoH!

KoHeartsGPA

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:38:29

Alternative 2 - grab oldman to reduce food demand haha :p

KoHeartsGPA

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:41:16

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Yeah, I avoided grabbing KoH!

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oldman

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Oct 21st 2012, 3:44:48

alternative 3 - boycott the food and stock turns

crest23

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Oct 21st 2012, 4:08:32

What happened to food? Blame jedioda :-)

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blid

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Oct 21st 2012, 4:42:48

Blame the fattest batch of cashers you've ever seen!

2 Contagious (#130) 73,606 $52,713,396 HG
3 Out of Office (#30) 73,062 $52,299,731 RG
4 Republic Casher (#95) 75,764 $52,179,158 RG
9 Init (#158) 71,682 $44,107,122 RG
12 orcs must die (#287) 62,439 $43,003,613 RG
13 My Bitter Respite (#212) 66,643 $40,324,796 HG

That's a lotta cash!

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KoHeartsGPA

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Oct 21st 2012, 6:01:44

^ thats A LOT of hungry tax payers!, wOOt!

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Oct 21st 2012, 6:35:09

If their cashing so much, when are they gonna start buying my military????

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Xinhuan

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Oct 21st 2012, 8:59:42

They aren't going to, Serp. As long as food remains > $45, it's actually better for them to continue grabbing.

blid

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Oct 21st 2012, 14:17:25

Not necessarily. And anyway, if they're still grabbing they're still gonna be buying jets and such. Just wait until they start stocking!

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Oct 21st 2012, 18:41:12

Casher to hit $150M NW?

blid

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Oct 21st 2012, 18:52:20

I think so

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jedioda

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Oct 21st 2012, 19:12:28

I think no

Rockman

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Oct 21st 2012, 19:38:50

I think it depends on how soon food prices go under $40
But I'm inclined to agree with Jedioda, I don't think it will happen.

oldman

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Oct 22nd 2012, 12:42:27

Say NO to expensive food!

Reroll

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Oct 22nd 2012, 12:52:18

I doubt so. Food is expensive and too many big casher around. :(

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Oct 22nd 2012, 14:19:13

Plus, when you look at Republic Casher and his 80k land, you have to keep in mind that the last 5k of it only will negligibly affect his networth. But I still think he makes it

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blid

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Oct 22nd 2012, 15:52:19

When I got 138m with a Rep casher, I reached 65k land on the 19th. Republic Casher hit that on the 16th. Just based on that alone wouldn't you think three extra days can make up 12m networth?

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herbs12

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Oct 22nd 2012, 18:20:29

Its a tough call Blid, if food drops to 37-39 within 24 hours then I could see it. Right now I bet we are looking at 140m cashiers. That rep cashier might hit a little higher.

I think Old war machine there who stopped grabbing on day 38 and started stocking and exploring will make a very high commie.

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Oct 22nd 2012, 18:35:28

I really have no idea what order the commies will finish in. I'd probably lean toward Kinetic as the top commie though. Gotta say I think the four top ones will all make 120m and most of them 130m though. Still not good enough to beat the cashiers, at least a couple of whom will be over 140m.

Edited By: blid on Oct 22nd 2012, 18:39:54
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Chewi

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Oct 22nd 2012, 19:08:02

Current commies are probably in better looking shape than the set bakku got 165m.

Serpentor

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Oct 22nd 2012, 19:13:08

I still haven't properly calculated my stockpile and destock. Seem to not have any time these days. You guys are getting me excited with your high estimates though. I'll have to try to look at it.

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Oct 22nd 2012, 20:18:39

Originally posted by Chewi:

Current commies are probably in better looking shape than the set bakku got 165m.

nah not gonna happen i dont think. i also dont think any commie will even challenge your 149m - i dont know what it was about that round but those scores just seem out of reach. looking back, you got to 69k land on the 19th, and kinetic made it on the 16th... so you'd think... but i would bet against it

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Chewi

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Oct 22nd 2012, 21:15:05

He should beat 149m unless he screws up.

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Oct 22nd 2012, 21:20:42

Well, there's 4 commie countries on that same general pace: KineticciteniK, Creative Strategies, Sankara, and EEVIL. If none of them beat 149m, then we'll know it wasn't due to a screw up right?

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Oct 22nd 2012, 21:39:40

I sure won't be close to 150M!!! Maybe the low 120's, but I may be way off, I dunno.

higher military prices? cheaper oil? Lower food prices during stocking??? It still boggles my mind those 150ish million net finishes.

Maybe afaik can shed some light on the difference as he will be able to reference his current country vs one of those huge indies from then.

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Oct 22nd 2012, 21:44:25

Average turret price for afaik's "viva la revolucion" round was 148, according to eestats. Highest military price set ever. We're averaging 122 right now this set but that will probably come up a bit. However, when bakku set the record, the average price was only 129, and I don't think we'll be too many dollars off from there.

One thing those two sets had in common is VERY low oil prices though, and if you look at the country histories you'll see the winners did tons of standard strikes. This allowed afaik to get to 61.6k land on the 5th. That's 5 days sooner than Serp got there this round.

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Xinhuan

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Oct 23rd 2012, 1:04:37

I don't think any of the 4 commies will finish above 130m unless food price drops below $40 today.

Chewi

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Oct 23rd 2012, 1:36:07

I stocked all of 50-60m food to reach 149m. Though I guess cheaper food helps expenses.

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Oct 23rd 2012, 6:29:43

even if none of the commies sell again this round, there's only enough production left (turns) to hit 135-140m, and I think most will need to make more sales to get there. if anyone hits 150m it'll be a casher this set IMO.

the faster landgain is what worked on my 150m set. as blid pointed out, i was basically landgaining for a month then stocking/destocking for a month.. so land and tech goals reached very early. i had a huge stock.

tech wasn't cheap but mil prices were good too so it balanced, and because i stocked so much I could play the last 15 days or so destocking (just selling off techs and bushels as I destocked, not selling mil)... 15 days production on 60k indies.

oldman

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Oct 23rd 2012, 10:33:37

I don't think anyone will break 150M this set, but we'll see.

Chewi

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Oct 23rd 2012, 12:54:55

My 149m commie started jumping around this time with 2b and 50-60m food. Started around 56m net and 68k land, so if any of the commies have around those stats and don't hit 150m they screwed up.

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Oct 23rd 2012, 13:53:34

How was that enough stock to get to 150m net? Because that's only about $4b and it'd cost at least $10b to take those turns.

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oldman

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Oct 23rd 2012, 13:58:32

chewi is gosu!

oldman

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Oct 23rd 2012, 14:00:08

did the expense formula change? maybe it became more expensive to run turns after those 150M sets.