hehe, respect.



Bwahahahahahaaha

We never hit PDM did we?

We hit: EVOchem3, iMagNum, LaF, LCNostra, LSE, M4D, MONSTERS, OMA, Omega, RAGE, ServerVS, SoFElder and STONES... and a ton of untaggeds.

showered?

I don't think coming to alliance and recruiting using the name "MD" is a good idea right now.

But, best of luck!

My suggestion to tagkill the server - in order - by country number - bottom-up... was vetoed.

Actually... Originals remain for SOL, xNAx, prime, sandwich, SBO, LoveUMD, Paradigm, Bow2MD, SiN and, of course, many many original untaggeds.

Thanks Symbolic. Clearly if you'd stayed you would have gotten to wall more on our side. :)

OK, now we can all retire.

Dangit, that would have been a very satisfying end of set kill.

I thought... no nw change in 5hrs... that's unusual...

I thought... surely he is confident we aren't coming for him by now...

I thought... We have a lot of turns and breakers...

But 18s later I thought... DAMNIT NOT AGAIN!!!!

<3

You should get together with the OP and go have a drink.

There's still time! I'm sorry you feel left out. #?

Well said Tav, et al!

I can only add lines I assume to be from early RAGE poet laureates....

We're just here...
For the beer....

Duly noted.

Wait, now, really...

Were you saying most of the US deaths were suicides, or most of the British deaths?

Translation: Don't bring facts to this discussion! See how I didn't bring facts and just threw out BS speculations backed up by nothing? THAT is how we argue around here! YOU AREN'T FROM ROUND HERE ARE YOU, BOY?!??!!?

11) LCN

Gun-related deaths per 100,000 people.... Great Britain: 0.23 USA: 10.54

We can't always get what we want.

Warstats..... its ugly, don't look. Ugh.

More like we may have blown our load a bit early and are trying not to fall asleep.

MD love you long time!

You have now seen the true meaning of the MD 100 light!

BTW, the earthgraphs war report is bugged... Does anyone know the admin for that site? In the war report, if you include a clan that didn't exist at the start of the war, the report will show their hits but will not include them in the survivors lists and thus also not in the TNW calculation, etc. In this case, it is ServerVS who doesn't show in the bottom sections.

The war report above lists some tiny 1-man or 2-man tags MD isn't hitting. This one might be more accurate based on events so far (MD still hasn't hit all tags):

http://earthgraphs.com/...%2CLSE&warreport=Show

this time wasting is so....meta....

+1

We aren't killing the bots.

No you aren't Spaced, you joined his side.

According to earthgraphs, 28. http://earthgraphs.com/...rchstr=&search=Search

BTW, love the OP here. Nice post.

Please re-read the war dec. It is in English.

Cannot FS all countries at once. Order of operations matters. So far, it is working. :)

Meh, I don't know if *I'd* call it "recruiting"... but tagging over to MD was a great way to avoid being on the eventual kill list.

SoFElder top country is rank 183... They have been on the list for days, just not a priority.

Ummmmmmmmmm

there may be several options for treehuggers...... next set......

Wait, what?

WE decided????

SS May 7, 13:52 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Death By SNUSNU (#143) (MD100) DH
EM May 7, 13:52 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Death By SNUSNU (#143) (MD100) DH
EM May 7, 13:52 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Death By SNUSNU (#143) (MD100) DH
EM May 7, 13:52 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Death By SNUSNU (#143) (MD100) DH
SS May 7, 13:52 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Death By SNUSNU (#143) (MD100) 703 A
NM May 7, 13:53 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Yoda Humping Artichokes (#31) (MD100) DH
NM May 7, 13:53 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Yoda Humping Artichokes (#31) (MD100) DH
NM May 7, 13:53 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Yoda Humping Artichokes (#31) (MD100) DH
NM May 7, 13:53 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Yoda Humping Artichokes (#31) (MD100) DH
NM May 7, 13:53 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Yoda Humping Artichokes (#31) (MD100) DH
PS May 7, 13:53 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) 100 Last Death By SNUSNU (#143) (MD100) 1025 A
CM May 7, 13:54 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) Wrath of 100 (#94) (MD100) 812 B
28,454 C
CM May 7, 13:54 ANUSTART (#377) (OMA) Wrath of 100 (#94) (MD100) DH

As per my other post, I'll let you get the last word in. I'm expecting my account to be deleted here sometime soon.

The difference is that this is what Trump is actually saying himself, not a statement about another person who is misquoted out of context and then spun.

Also, history matters.

For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/...d_States_who_owned_slaves

Do you believe anyone who has ever said anything positive about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or the other 10 listed there "support slavery" because they admired some of the actions of a former slave owner? Or would you more hold someone accountable who directly, themselves, says that slavery is ok, today?

As much as I have enjoyed the game itself and the off-topic political debates here, the time has come for me to say farewell.

The trolls will be happy I'm gone and, yes, I'll feel the door smack my behind on the way out.

I hope you all find whatever it is your are looking for in this community for as long as it lasts.

Those of you who know me personally can always reach me on other platforms.

No, I'm not saying that either. I'm undecided. Like most Americans, I don't "support" any of the candidates. I'll choose the best option available when those options are laid in front of me and the politics up to that point have played out.

I haven't been thrilled with the candidate choices in quite a while. I had hoped ex-chairman Powell would have run a few years back, but he opted out for precisely the *right* reasons. I was interested in General Wesley Clark before he dropped out. I'm not exclusively on "one side of the aisle" (a phrase of our two-party system) or the other.

What I *am* saying is that you jumped to conclusions about my political views because I posted something about Obama vs. Trump views on women? Do you assume anyone who cares about public views and statements on women must belong to a particular political party? What does that say about whichever party you affiliate with?

Oh, and for historical accuracy:

http://quotefail.com/...-are-human-weeds-and-need

And more on the history of where this false quote evolved from:

http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-weeds/

Lots of other sites out there on this as well, both debunking the quote you posted as well as talking about Margaret Sanger's views on eugenics in the contemporary time period.

Why would you assume that? I never said I supported Clinton.

That's a bit misleading. You are compounding inflation over 16 years.

$1 in 1984 was equal to $1.66 in 2000.... by your math, 66% over a similar 16-year period. So the last 16 years have been better than the prior 16 years?

I don't know how that was in any way related to or in response to my post, but, um.... ok?

Sounds like this guy has some hyper-local neighborhood problems in the East Village in NYC, which he blames on all the people around him.

That is relevant to the treatment of women, how?

https://www.facebook.com/...A/videos/993925377365455/

incoherent babble. worse than a 30-second sound byte.

Well, both Clinton and Trump have been widely linked to crime but neither have been arrested or convicted of anything. The same is true for their family members.

But, my favorite related to us here at EE, on a politifact website:

Mob control a ‘fact of life’

Before we detail Trump’s alleged ties, none of this proves that Trump was happy doing business with the mafia or even in cahoots with them at all.

La Cosa Nostra had a virtual monopoly on concrete in New York at the time Trump was adding his name to its skyline in the 1980s. And the mafia’s control over building supplies and labor unions meant that the crime families had a hand in most construction projects in Manhattan.

Trump and other major developers "had to adapt to that situation" or build elsewhere, said James B. Jacobs, a mafia expert who was part of a state task force on organized crime.

"That was the fact of life, that was the way it was," he told PolitiFact. "The contractors and developers weren’t pure victims. You could bribe the mob-controlled union leaders and get relief from the more arduous conflicts. But we had no information that Trump was any different."

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So, let's face it. LCN has created some real problems for Trump as a presidential candidate. I think Trump would disavow any support for LCN if he becomes president and we can all attack them at will.

^^

To bring this back to the point....

Are you saying that if there were no untaggeds, nobody would keep the alliances in check? Or maybe only alliances would then keep other alliances in check? I think the latter is what was being proposed by Forgotten.

Some folks are trying to make this about a specific incident when it was originally posed as a theory for a different set of server game mechanics. Debate the merits of those (some ppl have, to be fair).

The broader question would be whether the game dynamics on an Alliance server without untaggeds would lead to more or less players, in the long run.

Pros
- maybe alliance players would stay longer without the random risk of untaggeds ruining their set
- maybe new players, if forced into an alliance from day 1 by the game mechanics, would get a better or more supportive start and stick around more
- maybe alliances would have an easier time recruiting since everyone must be in an alliance and they could argue for better stability than today

Cons
- maybe if everyone had to be in an alliance, power would concentrate in only the largest alliances and crowd out anyone who didn't want to be part of those
- maybe suiciders would never go away but would just jump/hide under new aliases in tags and then bring the repercussions of their suiciding to the whole tag, again ruining a bunch of player's resets.
- maybe some players start off wanting to just play solo and would be hesitant to ever play if they were required to join an alliance from day 1 (counter argument - there are other servers for that)
- maybe the mechanics of implementing an alliance-only game would just be too cumbersome on the developers/admins

I wouldn't recommend using words like "always". Some suiciders are purely in it for the power trip or fluffs&giggles.

I agree with this sentiment.



I think the suggestion here is to change the "rules and capabilities set forth by the admins and moderators". Although that might belong on the Bugs and Suggestions Board.

Here are some additional thoughts:

On tag registration - I don't know what this means. I can see some positives but I don't know how it would actually work. Today any country can create a tag. What would change with the idea of "registration"? Some minimum # of countries to start a tag? Some rl info associated with a clan account?

On detagging... In the system you envision, I think it makes sense to allow people to "tag jump" from one tag to another. I think the part that you are trying to avoid is "detagging" to a "untagged" state.

On restarting - if I read your suggestion correctly, anyone can restart and tag up with whomever they wish before exiting protection, but they only get restart bonuses if they tag up with the same tag they died under? Is that correct?



This doesn't make any sense to me. The server is filled with untagged bots that are intended to be farmed into the ground. A player might not even know the difference between a bot and a player today.

Forgotten - what would you do about bots in your hypothetical? Would they go away or be tagged under "BOT" or something?

Personally, I don't see any of these changes happening. I think this game/community is just too far gone to care about the griefing and harassment. It is now a troll's paradise here.

There is a good chance Trump wins the popular vote.

Currently, Bernie actually polls better against Trump than Hillary does.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...g-trump-in_b_9862708.html

http://www.thestate.com/...ases/article77396342.html

For a really interesting analysis of the rest of the primaries and why/how Sanders might prevail:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...-seriously_b_9898436.html