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sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:09:47

The person have hit me 4 times now. i am getting real sick of him, one more time DNH PACT

mrford Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:14:28

you are aware that no one HAS to give you fluff for a pact right? if i wasnt netting i would probably farm you for your arrogance on this respect.
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Raging Budda Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:23:06

The fact is sirdog, is that people look for land wherver they find it.

My advice: best defense is good offense. If you start retalling hits successfully, people will be reluctant to hit you. This is a game where people take every advantage they see/find/create for themsevles. Playing passive with "don't hit me, I don't hit you" mentality won't work.
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UncleFiat Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:28:10

I see an attack on 3/3 and one on 3/15.

12 days apart with no retals.

Playing a rep tech/farmer in your own tag with only one real country?

Not sure you have much to complain about.

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:40:17

Ford i am aware, nobody have to give me any love at all , BUT AT Same time i wish to get as i give and that is not looking problems. i respect others peoples goods and all i ask that they respect my goods as well. as far as u farming me, that would not be nice and a bit disrespectful.

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:41:25

Ford i am aware, nobody have to give me any love at all , BUT AT Same time i wish to get as i give and that is not looking for problems. i respect others peoples goods and all i ask that they respect my goods as well. as far as u farming me, that would not be nice and a bit disrespectful.

UncleFiat Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:46:58

Just to let you know sirdog, the explore returns at this point in the set are down to the single digits.

While some are all explore or self-farm, some grab for land.

Playing in one's own tag has its advantages and dis-advantages.

People that play in a group under a tag, have pacts with other tags which preclude land grabs between the tags.

If you were in one of the groups, your countries would be sheltered from grabs from some if not most of the larger groups.

Playing solo has the dis-advantage of not having many pacts with the larger groups.

If you chose to play solo, you have to run a defense oriented government and build your country with that in mind.

Just a tip from your uncle fiat.

UncleFiat Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:54:21

"Just to let you know sirdog, the explore returns at this point in the set are down to the single digits."

Let me rephrase that.

At this point in the set, most players with a decent amount of land have run into a diminishing explore rate and have to look around for other means of acquiring more land which includes land grabs.

Time for you to consider joining one of the groups.........just a suggestion.

"The Porn Guy"

Twain Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:58:19

I'll add on to what Fiat brought up.

If you play in your own tag, generally the big clans won't abuse you, but they will likely still test you. What I mean by this is: Most of us are respectful enough that we don't just beat you down with numbers to the point where you can't possibly fight back. However, that doesn't mean they won't landgrab you.

Standard and Planned Strikes are considered non-aggressive attacks in the sense that they're trying to get land. They're not necessarily trying to hurt YOU, but benefit themselves. Standard policy that pretty much everyone follows on this server is that if you get land-grabbed, you get to retal 1:1 with no further aggression or escalation.

But this is how people will see it: They grab you, you don't retal (or you retal poorly), then they know they can come back to you every few days and get some more free land.

If you want to find success as a solo tag, asking for DNH's is a great idea, but it isn't enough. You have to show people that you can defend yourself. Make one of your countries a "retal" country. Don't do any grabs with it, only retals.

If you show you have some talent, can retal, and aren't a loose cannon who's likely to lash out over normal grabbing, then people will respect you and leave you alone.

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 20:58:23

Thanks Uncle i am good on DEF But the problem is if i spec attack the hell out of the farming aggressor his BIG O Crew will take me out. he is not the problem his backup is

RaTS FYA Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:02:31

You simply retal, its not hard to do an attack back, very few people will kill you for doing legit retals, when you start doing special attacks or hitting people that didn't hit you, is when their crew gets involved and own you
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UncleFiat Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:08:04

sirdog

If you were good on DEF, we wouldn't be here chatting about this.

I also want to point out that you don't need to resort to special attacks beyond a retal.

Not every player is helpless without his "BIG O Crew". Some can take care of issues like you describe by themselves.

The other benefit of being in a group is getting tutoring related to the server and how to better "play" or build your countries.

I know "the Porn Guy" pretty well .........send him an in-game message to his country and he might be willing to give you some advice.

"The Porn Guy"

Desperado Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:11:46

Generally if I hit somebody and they retal I leave them alone whether they break or not... As long as they retal right

Originally posted by Primeval:
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sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:12:37

I Am done asking will not beg.

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:18:35

i think you did yourself no favors in the USS thread, also i only see 2 hits on you by ICD
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sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:42:48

The PAWG Needs to stay on the right side of the track i am on full not looking to service. but should be careful someone will toss that salad.

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:43:57

Hit 'em back, dude. It's really that simple. They won't hit you if they know you will hit them back hard. Bulk up your offensive capability, most of the large tags have fluffty defense anyway.
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Stryke Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 21:55:00

Just use an SS or PS and you should be fine, be sure to send a message after the hit(s) that it was a retal, and you should be fine. Simple as that.
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this dudes either a great troll or a seriously stupid fluff. the kind that takes the pepsi challenge and chooses jiff

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 15th 2014, 22:38:57

Stryke thanks BUT iS There a postal Button lol getting real sick of him and the PAWG

Crippler ICD Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 0:10:37

I must of missed the kind message of hey can you please have your guys stop hitting me once every 10 days.

Edited By: Crippler ICD on Mar 16th 2014, 0:13:28
See Original Post
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Crippler ICD Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 0:16:21

and to add to this - you are retaling countries that havent hit you - to be honest 637 is due a hit for your land grab on 3738 you still have a few hours to retal the proper country 1885, so you may want to do so.
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sirdog Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:08:15

Your guy did not do a retal he did grabs for no reason, am i not allow to grab TOO. Whoever or everybody just grab me? I DO NOT PLAN to Attack him but he needs to get himself some other person to grab from real soon. I Am not dissing nobody clan but this guy needs to get up off me.

JJosh Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:15:54

/me spreads the love and drinkx

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Crippler ICD Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:18:03

from you...this is a horrible display of diplomatic resolve. You grabbing other countries and not retaling countries does nothing helpful for you, trust me.
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sirdog Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:19:24

I Attack nobody & now my land is being ravaged by a person of greed that do not wish to explore like i have done all set. but to step to me and take what i explore like hell for. tell me where the right is in that.

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:22:23

what kiss ass diplomatic i need when the foot is in my ass for no reason

Crippler ICD Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:34:00

I'll just put this bluntly and end it here: 637 will be retaled. What ever you choose to do from that point on is up to you - if you want a clear unbiased opinion on what you should do I suguest you contact warster or twain. I for one am not a fan of repeating my self or other's over and over again.

Good Luck to you.
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sirdog Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:39:32

And good luck to you

Icemanxicd Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:51:56

I SAID GOOD DAY!!!!

JJosh Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 1:56:16

I SAY GOOD NIGHT????
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Desperado Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 2:11:27

Originally posted by Crippler ICD:
I'll just put this bluntly and end it here: 637 will be retaled. What ever you choose to do from that point on is up to you - if you want a clear unbiased opinion on what you should do I suguest you contact warster or twain. I for one am not a fan of repeating my self or other's over and over again.

Good Luck to you.


I can grab the top countries in the game, so I know I can do a kr

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raz Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 2:59:59

Originally posted by mrford:
you are aware that no one HAS to give you fluff for a pact right? if i wasnt netting i would probably farm you for your arrogance on this respect.


stfu tough guy!

coming from the n00b who self farms and FA's himself to get a top 10 country...fuken n00bs
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UncleFiat Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 3:13:00

I'm pretty sure "The Porn Guy" will want to do the retal on 637........

smegma Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 4:24:40

SirDog the only thing i have to add to this conversation is to talk to the guy who ran the SAS string. Every time that i tried to grab that dude he embarrassed me with his retals. That is how you get people to stop grabbing you.

Home Turf Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 4:40:27

roflmao that was sweet
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Twain Game profile

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Mar 16th 2014, 14:27:10

Originally posted by sirdog:
I Attack nobody & now my land is being ravaged by a person of greed that do not wish to explore like i have done all set. but to step to me and take what i explore like hell for. tell me where the right is in that.


Okay, let me try to explain what Crippler was saying.

If ICD hits you with country A. You have the right to retal country A with any country you have that's in the same tag/alliance, or with the original country if you're untagged. (within 72 hours)

If you hit a different ICD country (country B), that's not a retal, but a landgrab. It's not that you're not allowed to do this, but that it isn't considered a retal, but rather a new case. So if that happens, then you're still entitled to retal country A, but ICD would be entitled to hit the country you used to hit country B.

Crippler wasn't (at least I don't believe he was) making a threat about you land-grabbing them. He WAS saying (again, I believe, anyway) that you can't grab whoever you want and consider it a retal, so if your hits on ICD were meant to be retals, and they were just on random countries, you're gonna get yourself in trouble.

Ultimately, this is a clan/alliance server. We're fairly kind to individual players, but the big clans still hold power. You might think it's unfair that a 200 country alliance can push you around, but I would counter with: None of the big clans care if you think it's unfair. The big clans could easily just farm every one-man tag out of the game, but we don't because we know it'd be a fluff move. But trying to take advantage and think you're on equal terms takes away any purpose of playing in an alliance, and then we've basically just turned FFA into a 16-country per person primary server, which was not the intention. Don't like it? Join an alliance or recruit people and make one.

(I say this as someone who is not in any way affiliated with ICD)

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Mar 16th 2014, 23:38:36

Why are you peeps wasting your time on this guy, he's gotten good advise in previous threads and he still doesn't seem to get it, he's more annoying than those entitled to their land express netters!
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BigBoi

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Mar 17th 2014, 1:50:53

icd keeps hitting my country as well and the problem is that it is a country twice as large sometimes

we have to blow stock to retal and then we got big expensive turns to deal with

icd is the poopoo

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Mar 17th 2014, 2:14:16

Originally posted by BigBoi:
icd keeps hitting my country as well and the problem is that it is a country twice as large sometimes

we have to blow stock to retal and then we got big expensive turns to deal with

icd is the poopoo


I need a missile dump, keep posting fluff like that.....
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mrford Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 3:45:04

Originally posted by raz:
Originally posted by mrford:
you are aware that no one HAS to give you fluff for a pact right? if i wasnt netting i would probably farm you for your arrogance on this respect.


stfu tough guy!

coming from the n00b who self farms and FA's himself to get a top 10 country...fuken n00bs


you sound mad. mad jelly. u jelly bro?
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mrford Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 3:45:57

and i dont FA. everyone knows chain FAing isnt realistic for such large countries. but im the n00b so you know more than me.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

BigBoi

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Mar 17th 2014, 11:20:20

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by BigBoi:
icd keeps hitting my country as well and the problem is that it is a country twice as large sometimes

we have to blow stock to retal and then we got big expensive turns to deal with

icd is the poopoo


I need a missile dump, keep posting fluff like that.....


another example of why icd is poopoo

issactan Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 14:21:48

that's the reason why pacts are needed...you need to remain small to reduce expenses but at same time need maintain enough defense to deter people from hitting you and also must have retal capability if you get hit.

jcatron Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 14:48:36

sirdog:

you make my face hurt! as mentioned several times over...you need to join a bigger clan and learn the game b/c right now you are clueless...and the biggest issue is that you do not realize you are clueless.

Crippler ICD Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 15:18:21

bigboi your another one that post crap here but never ask for hits to stop.. take a lesson from the guy who runs fun.. he personally asked if we would stop hits and we did with no problem.
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BigBoi

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Mar 17th 2014, 18:21:30

Originally posted by Crippler ICD:
bigboi your another one that post crap here but never ask for hits to stop.. take a lesson from the guy who runs fun.. he personally asked if we would stop hits and we did with no problem.


i posted a thread requesting a dnh with everybody. i never landgrabbed anybody but i do my best to retal and so far i have.

i've come to the conclusion that even if you do what the ffa community asks so you won't get biasedly hit that you will still get douches hitting you that are too big or they jump after the landgrab.

they can't keep it fair and stay the same networth because they fear they might lose the land they recently acquired or more.

but hey some will say it is up to you to defend what is yours etc etc so i don't really care lol

i came back to get the boredom out when i have free time at work and so if i lose that country as koh/icd threatens so there won't be no crying here :)

but that won't stop me from saying icd is poopoo

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 19:11:28

I Am going to say this 1TIME And 1 TIME ONLY. I AM NOT Here to insult or disrespect anyone. so please do not character assassinate me. I PLAY HANDBALL OFF The Crub with the Best

sirdog Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 19:24:01

BIGBOI I AM Working at putting a bigger team together if that sounds like something you may have a interest in drop me a message. Thanks

mrford Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 20:28:10

your writing style is annoying and your demands are coming off as arrogant. might wanna think about slowing your role and people might start responding better.

you came on here and started making demands of large tags as a solo tag. people dont respond well to that fluff.
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Desperado Game profile

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Mar 17th 2014, 23:35:50

just because you made a post requesting everybody give you a dnh doesn't mean we have to give you one bucko

Originally posted by Primeval:
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