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Jan 29th 2013, 2:23:34

Originally posted by Serpentor:
RUN FOR THE HILLS....!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh we'll, one of us pays the piper tomorrow. If it helps, I'm sorry! :p
Hahaha :) funny stuff.
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Jan 29th 2013, 6:38:36

;-)
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Jan 29th 2013, 9:12:30

If I were him, I would retal the lowest networth first, him hitting #106 doesnt get good gains because of his networth match of 65% only.

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Jan 29th 2013, 9:16:53

I was thinking he wants to smack the bigger guys back first before they have a chance to outgrow him. Also to make the retals within a 72 hour period since some top countries may enforce this rule and have the means to do so. The lower networth country is really a target anytime he wants it, he can get that.
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Jan 29th 2013, 17:24:09

You hit the biggest guy 1st, that will give those with the future intent to him him pause cause they know what might happen. Then you pick off the rest 1 by one, 72 hr window? Good luck with that, you get it when you get it.
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Jan 29th 2013, 18:29:18

Yeah go for the small guy! Lol
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Jan 29th 2013, 18:54:10

72 hour? i have 5 mil jets sitting doing nothing, i should offer him an OA to retal you CI runner

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Jan 29th 2013, 18:56:52

btw, 72 hour policy is a joke! i dare any top ci to ror him

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Jan 29th 2013, 19:10:01

next few days should be very interesting for top 10 ppl :P

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Jan 29th 2013, 19:50:40

They got a bit greedy with their grabs I think, hitting above 1/3rd of their own networth. As someone else noted, once one of the top CI's hit a guy, the others tend to follow up with their own hits on the same target shortly after. Guess #106's target selection wasn't as perfect as we thought. lol
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Jan 29th 2013, 20:01:30

2013-01-29 19:31:06 PS NGC 224 (#27) Fiscal Cliff (#29) 1981A (2907A)

Looks like NGC 224 is just going in order of who hit him. All Bobby's turret pumping and alliance swapping goes for naught.

The thing is when everyone hit him he was only 4.8m net and he jumped to 6.5m the very next day. I guess no one factored in how easy that kind of jump was for him. 15k acres * 5.3 food/acre * 1.15 fascist bonus * 2 tech * 60 turns = 11m bushels. 11m * 38 * .94 = $393m. $393m / 130 * .94 = 2.85m jets in a day, just like that. 2.85m jets = 1.7m net = exactly the jump he took to make the retals.

Edited By: blid on Jan 29th 2013, 20:05:58
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Jan 29th 2013, 20:08:02

Originally posted by blid:
2013-01-29 19:31:06 PS NGC 224 (#27) Fiscal Cliff (#29) 1981A (2907A)

Looks like NGC 224 is just going in order of who hit him. All Bobby's turret pumping and alliance swapping goes for naught.

The thing is when everyone hit him he was only 4.8m net and he jumped to 6.5m the very next day. I guess no one factored in how easy that kind of jump was for him. 15k acres * 5.3 food/acre * 1.15 fascist bonus * 2 tech * 60 turns = 11m bushels. 11m * 38 * .94 = $393m. $393m / 130 * .94 = 2.85m jets in a day, just like that. 2.85m jets = 1.7m net = exactly the jump he took to make the retals.


I'm not sure he got any ally swapping done, he never dropped or replaced me and I was the weak link i'm sure.

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Jan 29th 2013, 20:09:17

Yeah, I'd never spy, alliance spy, spy both allies, & spy market. with failed ops you'd run yourself outta turns doing market spies on everyone. LGing so much you gotta take that chance.
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Jan 29th 2013, 21:47:16

$300 food again. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Jan 29th 2013, 21:54:17

Yeah, once food goes crazy, he's retals would be easy. Plus military is tanking.
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:14:40

Yeah dude, I have to support his rising profits by short changing myself on cheep military. :(

*cries*

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Jan 29th 2013, 22:40:25

If $300 bushel man held his stock at like $80 or something he might be raking in cash right now.
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:42:35

Better to sell a million at 300 than 3 million at 80.
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:43:39

Originally posted by Serpentor:
Yeah dude, I have to support his rising profits by short changing myself on cheep military. :(

*cries*



He'll probably hit you with the jets you sell him, lmfao.
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:44:52

Speaking of stocks. I don't know why I used up my stock of oil either. It was supposed to be for when prices went above 250$. Now I have to buy oil. Idiot!!
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:46:20

Originally posted by crest23:
Better to sell a million at 300 than 3 million at 80.
Better to sell a hundred grand at 5,000 than a million at 300. Point is nobody is gonna buy either.
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:54:24

I'm not selling my jets. Just not making new ones.
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Jan 29th 2013, 22:55:45

blid a secret I probably shouldn't share is that at this point of set half the people I hit could retal me if they put their mind to it...

Edited By: BobbyATA on Jan 29th 2013, 23:10:07
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Jan 29th 2013, 23:09:13

Bobby don't go giving our land targets ideas!
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Jan 29th 2013, 23:10:24

Ouch, only ok?.... I think he's a great ally. Although between us running from retals, he's probably the best defended guy in the game ATM. Lol
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Jan 29th 2013, 23:11:50

haha you don't spy enough people. There are a few weird all x techer type people with more D then any of us heh. But ya I take back the only ok:P

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Jan 29th 2013, 23:22:28

*pats self on back for noticing food was $300 before purchasing*

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Jan 29th 2013, 23:51:09

Originally posted by crest23:
You hit the biggest guy 1st, that will give those with the future intent to him him pause cause they know what might happen. Then you pick off the rest 1 by one, 72 hr window? Good luck with that, you get it when you get it.


Not that I know anything about Primary, but what would be the point of holding anyone to any window of a retal policy?

If a top 50 country is willing to go 100% jets to pump multiple T10 retals, you better bet your ass he's going to spend 100% of his effort to missle and AB/Spy you for the remainder of the set if you RoR.

I assume this is kind of like express. If you RoR someone or hit them a second time, you better pump tanks spies and SDI, which is going to be more expensive than simply not making the RoR or 2nd hit.

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Jan 29th 2013, 23:52:16

Originally posted by smlandau84:
Originally posted by crest23:
You hit the biggest guy 1st, that will give those with the future intent to him him pause cause they know what might happen. Then you pick off the rest 1 by one, 72 hr window? Good luck with that, you get it when you get it.


Not that I know anything about Primary, but what would be the point of holding anyone to any window of a retal policy?

If a top 50 country is willing to go 100% jets to pump multiple T10 retals, you better bet your ass he's going to spend 100% of his effort to missle and AB/Spy you for the remainder of the set if you RoR.

I assume this is kind of like express. If you RoR someone or hit them a second time, you better pump tanks spies and SDI, which is going to be more expensive than simply not making the RoR or 2nd hit.


You don't need to pump tanks. Just keep a few of them, and ABs are completely useless against you. You'll have no luck stopping spy ops, regardless of your SPAL, though.

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Jan 29th 2013, 23:58:28

Seth, you're right about what you say, but some people don't give a crap - they're willing to do something much more expensive (ROR) to enforce their policy. Maybe they'll get away with it, or teach someone a lesson, or something...

Rockman isn't exactly wrong either, but he's just talking about game mechanics, how ABs don't work on Primary (not enough turns to ramp up damages) and spies are so hard to stop.
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Jan 30th 2013, 0:00:07

If a guy with 40k building RoRed me, I could bomb buildings 20X/day and take out 5k+/day along with csites.

It would be so much more effective than abing. And I can pump missles at the same time and casually shoot them off.

For the 40k to block the spy ops, he has to pump spies, as obviously its 10x easier to have a high spal on lower than higher land... so once again, making it 10x more expensive to take the RoR or grab someone a second time.

Anyways my point is simply, anyone who thinks they can enforce anything regarding an initial retal or retal window is out of their mind.

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:03:20

Depends on your definition of enforcement... they can enforce it, maybe to their own detriment, but they can enforce it if they want to by RORing and fighting a war if someone retals outside of their timetable. That's enforcement.
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Jan 30th 2013, 0:05:11

Blid, a few sold. Dunno if it is worth it though.
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Jan 30th 2013, 0:07:12

Oh this should be a fun week for me then, because I have a few T10 retals to take that arent necessarily in a 72 hr window. And I will be more than happy to ruin anyone for a month that thinks they can RoR with the current GDI policies.

I'm playing Primary for the first time in 14 or 15 years, and I have a feeling some big commies may be in for a rude awakening ;)

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:09:01

Originally posted by smlandau84:
Oh this should be a fun week for me then, because I have a few T10 retals to take that arent necessarily in a 72 hr window. And I will be more than happy to ruin anyone for a month that thinks they can RoR with the current GDI policies.

I'm playing Primary for the first time in 14 or 15 years, and I have a feeling some big commies may be in for a rude awakening ;)


are you NGC 224?

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:10:00

in primary, nukes > ab

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:11:10

No, I'd rather vote for Obama than run a Facism

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:12:19

Why nuke? I think Bomb Buildings would yield between 300-400/ successful op against 40k acres if the spyer has at least half

Nuking increases their spal making it easier for them to prevent it.

There's no way a commie can afford to rebuild day after day while military prices tank.

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:14:21

Originally posted by smlandau84:
Why nuke? I think Bomb Buildings would yield between 300-400/ successful op against 40k acres if the spyer has at least half

Nuking increases their spal making it easier for them to prevent it.

There's no way a commie can afford to rebuild day after day while military prices tank.


Higher SPAL won't prevent it. Trust me, I've run big countries with lots of spies, and I can't stop countries half my size with half my SPAL from getting through with enough spy ops to cause damage.

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:16:05

Still dumb though, cos who are you really teaching a lesson? Unless you are serp or gogy, next set both players are probably using different names. There might be a feeling of a lesson taught, but I guarantee you there is no lesson learned. So, that enforcement policy is retarded.

Another example is gogy tried to enforce his policy last set and this set he is the one that changed country names and is in hiding, so he effectively taught himself a lesson. Whether he has learned from it is another question.
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Jan 30th 2013, 0:20:02

From my recent experience in tournament, spies are greater than nukes. Though I would prefer chems in this case.
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Jan 30th 2013, 0:24:22

I hope you get a chance to enforce your retal window against me Crest, that would be fun for me.

But I assumed you're not a CI cuz you suck at most strategies... And you would have to be pretty good to have me owe you a retal right now.. and all my retals are against top CIs :(

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:30:19

I have no retal window, I know you are a little slow and haven't understood any of my comments on this topic so far. All set long if you can get it, get it.
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Jan 30th 2013, 0:35:08

That's too bad, I was hoping I was going to get you to RoR me :(

Anyways I just think anyone who is going to RoR because of some retal window policy is nuts. Go all ex if you can't handle getting beat up by smaller countries.

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:41:30

I fear we will be fighting soon smlandau heh.

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Jan 30th 2013, 0:53:01

I don't start fights, but hit me twice and you've started it for me ;)

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Jan 30th 2013, 6:14:28

Anyone buying my $300 oil yet? Haha
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Jan 30th 2013, 6:22:18

Originally posted by smlandau84:
I hope you get a chance to enforce your retal window against me Crest, that would be fun for me.


Uhm...history check .....until you actually do kick his ass, crest officially pwnes you, bic boi :p
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Jan 30th 2013, 6:41:27

I _actually_ bought 200k food at $100 without looking at the price. fluff my life.

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Jan 30th 2013, 6:51:07

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
I _actually_ bought 200k food at $100 without looking at the price. fluff my life.


Is it worth it for a techer to fall a day behind in land because he cant spend turns due to high food prices. Or should a techer bite the bullet and buy just enough $200 food to make some grabs?
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