Moo

Thanks for killig the farmer strat. I guess I will have to play something else now.

I bet what Ron bet

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My highschool basketball team once won 5 games in 2 days to make a playoff.

Record? Pffff

Weekly!

christianity is evil,

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Trife, you probably would still fail, because you are a fail netter, right?

I mean, the first reset that I didn't listen to you, I got to 11th. And every reset I was with you, I couldn't crack 30mil net.

iMag -4
sof 2
lcn 9
laf 0
evo 3
omega 5
rd 0
sanct 5
icn 3
pdm -10
monsters 2
wof 5
na 0
sol -10

i think it would increase dynamics and hides what other alliances are planning to do.

right now, at start of set, if I see an alliance full of rep or fascist, they are netting.

but if there's a bunch monarchs... u know that they plan for war.

i think it would be great to NOT know of government types

imagine an alliance planning to war, they make each member make 16 oilers in FFA. and through orders, gets themselves cheap oil over on alliance.

or cheap tech

hey, just saying, i mean, some people in that thread was suggesting that government types gives away too much information about the country

I'm still questioning why PDM won't acknowledge the harmops by 449 at all, just because he didn't get caught, doesn't mean he didn't do it. Because with all the networth change time sheets, we actually proved that it was him.

if he's such a new member, then why protect him?

I wish Comwood would come back just to see his face when he learns of what PDM is today.

i'm pretty sure it's two CMPD officers that got executed by the guys holding them hostage? that's what a SWAT was needed?

durrrrrrr

maybe it's 'hacking bios passwords for those idiots who set bios passwords and forgot what the bios password is so they can actually use their computer'

I should also mention that I'm talking about now, culturally, you can promote and prevent suiciders.

LaF didn't get to where they are today in terms of netgaining ability because we just tell everyone to netgain.

We got there because we have plenty of competitive players that wants to out do each other, so over time, the quality of players raise, and new recruits join because they want to netgain better, and do so because of the environment we provide.

What environment does PDM provide? A place where you don't recognize traditional and cultural policies of this game, a place where the alliance isn't held responsible for your actions, or what you guys say, a place to have fun?

There are people in the world who wants to make the most money, or those that wants to help others, or those that fight to protect, and well, some that fight to fight, or rebel (imag, LOL). But PDM seems like the serial killers of the world, they don't care, and they'll do whatever they want, because they want it. And when they get caught, it's always not their fault.

And don't blame 100% on LaF for PDM losing their members, maybe some PDM members left because they were tired of PDM's leadership, or the lack of.

There's this thing called Advisor updates, which then you could see if a guy has been storing turns and cash for no reason, and maybe even military tech, or weapons tech during a netting set.

or really hostile towards an alliance on his posts, or just signs of doing so.

Alliances that have enough structure, wouldn't need to control their members. I'm pretty sure, heart to heart, all LaF's vets would not suicide anyone during the reset for any reason, we are structured, and culturally in control, we hold each other responsible.

Sure, there are new members that would require keeping an eye on, but that's what should happen.

even if every alliance drops pacts with each other.

PDM would, by history, suicide LaF with any excuse. And then LaF would hit PDM.

So basically, PDM is LaF's personal iMag? An alliance that is content and satisfied at continual suiciding on LaF?

http://forums.earthempires.com/...did=7962&p=1299179836

posted in suggestion board, should get more attention there.

I think it's a valid idea, and could help us get more players, or atleast get older players to come back and try it.

This was posted on a thread in AT by myself

http://forums.earthempires.com/...ong-about-alliance-server

It's not just LaF. Be honest here NukEvil, if it was EVO that PDM is messing with, EVO would do the exact same thing.

it's $12 each, u think they have a website? find a friend in shanghai, that' where i got mine.

possible suicide? I'm not saying it is, but pressure is there and he was going to have to retire, away from a career he loved for 23 years, and worked for it even longer.

both.

you should get these 800gb flash drives (keychain size) from China for like $12.

one out of three works.

1) since PDM enforces special attack retals, those were just over retals, and thus, 2:1 per special attack, and 2:1 for over retaling, we were just doing retals

2) so PDM hitting wrong countries is fine, but receiving is not?

3) networth change study, it's been proven on other threads.

PDM doesn't care about rules, or policies, they have said repeatedly that they just want to have fun, and do whatever they want.

I'm pretty sure this PDM/LaF situation is going to continue, unless PDM can stop their members from harassing LaF countries (stealing tech, top feeding all X, missile retals), and stopping the suiciders from within PDM.

17 grabs from 7 countries in 24 hours, is not farming. If you don't want to see that, then there's options.

1) Get more defense, if you have 3mil turrets each, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be 17 hits.
2) get a pact with LaF.

if you want to run with 300k turrets on a 12k land country, then it's your fault if you are grabbed. if you want to run a 300k turret country for the whole set (like I did last reset) then you have to pact out the server.

this isn't E2025 where there's plenty of bots that you can farm, it's EE, heck, it's the survival of the fittest, and if you aren't pacted to everyone, then you better have good defense.

1)they are retals, you just look at it as it's a massive farming, u guys did about 300 GSes on one our country.

2)PDM has been topfeeding on LaF allX countries instead of doing retals on prior hits, we took that as a hint, plus we wanted to try out PDM's policy

3)if you studied the networth changes, it was proven that #449 was doing massive tech stealing.

Any legit alliance leader, or heck, any logical player will realize truths.

PDM doesn't want to take responsibility for their own members' action, and got FSed the following reset. This scenario has happened twice, 03 and 06. And one of the time PDM was even pacted to LaF.

A few resets ago, yet another few PDM suiciders on LaF. This time PDM agrees to pay reps, after LaF lowers the reps demanded. But, PDM makes the situation harder by only providing 3 low targets. And eventually declares that they don't want to pay anymore after reaching 70%ish. Which probably didn't even reach 50% of the original amounts.

PDM got killed for it.

This reset, PDM starts the exchanges, while 7 LaF grabbers decide to join in, PDM members decided that it was too much and uses missiles and harmops as part of retaliation, as well as stealing tech from uninvolved LaF countries.

On top of that, PDMers top feeds various uninvolved LaF allX countries.

After a series of exchanges, PDM decides to kill off a LaF country, with out a declaration of war, which then is just a bunch of GS attacks, and LaF decides to retal.

Seriously PDM members, how do you guys keep defending your leadership's decisions? And the choices of a few members that decides to suicide another alliance?

But then again, they probably won't read this anyways.

It doesn't matter if it's one country that suicided, your alliance is held responsible because he is YOUR member.

And paying 70% of the reps is no where close to 100% of the reps AGREEDED upon.

PDM is a joke.

LT's opinion does not represent LaF's stance as a whole.

People seem to skip the whole part about PDM suiciders and repeated avoiding reps, which is a social culture standard of this game.

If it was another alliance doing this, all you of would be hating PDM.

logs out with 600k tanks, my ally goes insane for a day.

log back in with 200k tanks.

notice you got ABed to the ground because your ally killed 400k tanks of yours.

priceless.

forklifts? I learned to drive one of those when I was 5... it's not hard at all...

guys, it's LT running the country, it's hopeless since turn 1

LaF is doing retals on PDM's unacceptable retal method choices.

if you are going down the road, you have to keep going and say that PDM did this on purpose, by retaliating with missiles and harmful ops.

so again, PDM, LaF and RD are all in on it according to your theory, to get PDM killed.

is this permission to hit you? LOL

i just want to say, if it's true that LaF and RD planned this,

why the fluff would RD kill the land sources.

LaF wants PDM's land.
RD wants PDM dead.

conflict of interest, there is no basis on this accusation.

and you guys just forced out the easiest going FR in LaF's recent memory.

GG

I don't think it's POSSIBLE to bounce on you LT. heck, I think my troops can break you.

ohmygawd, i want to farm LT too! recruit me PDM!

remove the governments, REMOVE them all.

instead, further develop the bonus section with all sorts of country bonuses. by default, you start with X amount of points, that would be about the same as the current different country bonuses. I'm talking about having 20 or 30 different bonuses you can invest in, or maybe even have some that has a positive attribute but comes WITH a negative attribute, like +15 explore rate but -20% military strength, but then you can either use some points to increase military strength from another bonus, with no negatives, but cost more.

creates total chaos/random/UNIQUE country attributes ( of course, most netters would be able to figure out what they want the most, but there will be lots of testing and tuning) *If I'm farmer, do I want 10% food bonus or 10% better explore rate? Do I put some in military cost? What about spy strength? hmm*

would also create DIFFERENT war strategies, different styles.

give a spy bonus to give FALSE data to spy ops, tell them you have 500k less defense and watch the opposition DH!


And more importantly, spy ops cannot tell (other then defensive strength), only advisor update can load to your selected hosting website.



another thing I would suggest is to limit the amount of attacks in 24 hours to 50. lowers effectiveness of FS, increases more interesting scenerios for wars.

raise that 1/12 networth border to 1/8, or even 1/6.

give the little guys a chance, better chance, or maybe country under 2mil networth have that border to 1/2 even.

RD pacted out everyone but PDM.

i'm pretty sure everyone knew what they were going to do.

If you guys assume that LaF and RD planned this, you have to also have to assume that PDM planned this also, because they killed a LaF country, that's what escalated this.

so PDM killed a LaF country so LaF would farm them before RD FSes them?

LOGIC IS FUTILE, PDM SUICIDED

Moo?

there is a cutoff already, it's 1/12.

and i'm all for raising it to 1/10 or even 1/8