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Mar 27th 2013, 4:29:15

Braden, I disagree with your view regarding the course America is most likely to have taken if not for the attack on Pearl Harbor. I think you're wrong in saying that the United States' isolationism would have remained unbroken and wrong in your assertion that the fascist nations would have emerged triumphant even if American had remained aloof from direct fighting.

However, since the fascists did lose, you're welcome to continue espousing your point of view -- but without the racial epithets.

Please do not use racially derogatory language.

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Mar 27th 2013, 1:32:05

It's a moderately interesting article. I've long been aware that the war was largely determined by America's economic strength, but some of the ways he broke it down were new and interesting.

Large parts of his analysis were frustrating, though.

He goes to great lengths to outline the challenges facing Japan in 1941. He even mentions that the Japanese were aware of this challenge, and developed a plan to overcome it.

Then, he jumps to the conclusion that the Japanese were doomed from the start, without ever bothering to examine why their plan to overcome said challenges failed (or what other plans might have been attempted, and why they might have succeeded or failed).

In other words, he reaches the conclusion that they were doomed without bothering to examine the point where their plans went awry.

As I said... frustrating.

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Mar 14th 2013, 5:11:06

Originally posted by TY:
Please show me where it says every gun must be registered

Show me where it says you can't register every gun.

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Mar 9th 2013, 21:39:54

Uh... SimCity just came out. You ecpect me to have time for StarCraft?

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Mar 1st 2013, 21:25:27

How can someone be "typical" and "famous"? Being famous in-and-of-itself makes someone an archetypically atypical person.

(Also, if your point is that it's hard to define a "typical" American, can you do so for any culture?)

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Mar 1st 2013, 14:38:13

I installed it and played for a while last night. It was fun. I'll probably keep playing.

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Feb 26th 2013, 22:02:47

Originally posted by Cerberus:
where Kyrgistan and Kazakhstan are relatively weak.


Kyrgistan?

You're spending all this effort fluffing about his mistake, but can't be bothered to make sure you get the name right yourself?

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Feb 18th 2013, 20:43:00

I suspect mdevol may not have looked at the video.

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Feb 14th 2013, 4:59:13

Oh, okay. I caught "it's/its", but I assumed both sets of capitalization were showing an error... and I couldn't figure out the second one. That makes sense.

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Feb 14th 2013, 4:51:45

Maybe I'm being a little thick, because it's late at night, but what's wrong with "grammar nazi"? Is it just that Nazi ought to be capitalized? Because that's debatable in this context.

I can see that the second sentence is missing a subject, but that doesn't directly pertain to the use of the term "grammar nazi"... so I'm confused.

Help?

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Feb 14th 2013, 3:51:43

Canada's parliament demonstrates that it can still form bi-partisan support on important issues.

http://www.youtube.com/...mbedded&v=ueBZuZAoglE

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Feb 12th 2013, 20:48:48

Originally posted by mrford:
and how did removing him cost more lives than him staying? you dont know what he would of done in the future. he has killed tens of thousands of people, and no where near that many died in removing him from power. other than maybe the insurgents, and that is a stretch. i know less than 5000 coalition soldiers have lost theit lives in iraq in the 9 years they were there.


The estimates for deaths in the Iraq war range from around 110k to over a million. Deaths are still deaths, even when it's not "coalition soldiers" doing the dying.

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Feb 12th 2013, 20:26:39

Originally posted by BigBen:
NK's rockets aren't capable of the guided flight necessary to hit a target like Tokyo. The only potential target they even stand a chance of hitting is Seoul.


What're you basing that on? Everything I've read seems to say that North Korea's ballistic missiles are absolutely capable of targeting cities.

They couldn't hit a specific house in a city, but the CEPs I've seen for their recent missiles have all been under 2km. Easily accurate enough to hit Tokyo.

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Feb 4th 2013, 6:02:01

Oh, and to prevent us getting too distracted:

Cerberus stated that there has "NEVER been a successfull[sic] Black led nation" (he later amended this to include "modern"). I provided a list of countries that I think qualify.

I provided a list, instead of one, because the definitions the "black", "modern" and "successful" are all debatable. I expected that not everyone would accept that every country on the list met all three criteria.

However, unless you can honestly state that you don't think any country I mentioned belongs on the list, my point remains intact... the rest is just window-dressing.

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Feb 4th 2013, 5:49:27

Originally posted by Klown:
South Africa might be the worst possible country to cite as an example of the success of black rule.

How so? South Africa may not have the stability of, say, Holland, but it's certainly on par with Turkey, or Mexico. I won't argue that it has a number of issues -- but in order to disqualify it from a list of successful nations, you'd have to disqualify all but a handful of nations around the world.

Originally posted by Klown:
As for Egypt, I have never heard Arabs considered as black unless I'm missing something?

I was going to write a long response explaining my basis for including Egypt on my list of "black nations"*. But instead, I'm just going to laugh at the fact that you think Egyptians are Arabs (a view supported by no one).

(Effectively, there's a lot of debate over whether or not Egyptians are part of the larger black racial identity [http://en.wikipedia.org/...ation_Statement_on_Race-2] but since the American Anthropological Association rejects the view that racial identity has any validity in the study of human biology [http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm], I chose to interpret "black" as meaning "of African descent").

Originally posted by Klown:
I don't agree with Watertowers but I didn't want Fooglmogs silly post to go unchecked.

Right back at you.

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Feb 3rd 2013, 4:52:31

There's no need to be bumping threads this old, especially when they generated so little interest to begin with.

I'm closing this thread to ensure it doesn't get bumped again.

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Feb 2nd 2013, 20:46:14

Originally posted by Dibs Ludicrous:
that don't make sense qzjul. you're stating that the birth rate is determined by life expectancy... so essentially the people have a clue about how many children they should produce because they know how long they'll live when they're birthing out babies?


qz isn't saying that at all. He's not giving any explanation for why the US birth rate is stable right now.

He's simply pointing out given US life expectancy, it makes sense that about 1/4 of Americans are under the age of 18.

Here's another way to look at it:

If the US life expectancy is ~72, and 72/18 = 4, then the average American spends 1/4 of their life under the age of 18. Therefore, it makes sense that about 1/4 of Americans are under the age of 18.

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Jan 29th 2013, 18:36:09

That's a patently false characterization of how the politics of the situation have played out.

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Jan 28th 2013, 2:10:23

February of 1997... I was 8 years old at the time.

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Jan 24th 2013, 3:33:57

Nice to see you around again, mate.

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Jan 24th 2013, 1:05:04

According to the Movie cliche "The world isn't big enough for the both of us", the answer is clearly 1.

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Jan 20th 2013, 4:43:06

Originally posted by archaic:
You know, today of all days, I would probably not be posting a thread titled 'Assassination Attempt' on any forum anywhere.

I didn't even think of that. If I had, I would have rephrased the title so that people weren't mis-led about what the post was about.

But not being American, the inauguration of an already sitting President isn't exactly a significant event for me.

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Jan 20th 2013, 1:58:18

Syko and Pain just became my new favorite people.

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Jan 20th 2013, 1:43:06

Has anyone seen this video from Bulgaria? Probably the most riveting thing I've seen in a year.

http://www.cnn.com/...pt-bulgaria.tv-7-bulgaria

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Jan 19th 2013, 4:26:56

Some things can't be tested from GDI. Some tests could be upset by even 1 lg. Other tests could be upset by someone else buying your goods off the market.

To effectively test, we need to be able to control all the variables.

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Jan 19th 2013, 2:18:07

I doubt it will happen... we use alpha to test every change before it goes live. If everyone has access to that server, our countries will keep getting killed while we're doing stuff, screwing up the test.

A few of the people who used to be staff members but aren't anymore lost their positions (at least in part) because they wouldn't behave on the alpha server.

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Jan 17th 2013, 6:02:29

Also, I'm pretty sure that the picture above isn't a Leclerc. I just looked at some pictures, and in every picture I can find, the Leclerc's turret seems to extend further to the right (our left, looking from the front) from the barrel than that does. Take a look:

http://www.army-technology.com/...erc/images/leclerc_11.jpg

I think it looks a lot more like an ERC 90 Sagaie. Here's a picture of that:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/..._Sagaie-1RCA-IMG_5582.jpg

If you compare that to Trife's original image, you can see that the 3 lights on each side at the front match. Also, you can see an opening under the barrel in Trife's image where the driver(?) is sitting in mine and the hatch folded down in front of that opening looks the same. There's other similarities too, like that box on the turret to the left of the barrel.

Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, since Schilling's attempt to bullfluff his way past my refutation did irritate me a little. But I think he botched the identification of the tank as well.

I don't know anything about Schilling or his background. But I can't help but think his knowledge of military equipment is cursory at best, and that he decided to tell us all that the vehicle in the picture was a Leclerc because that's the only French tank he's heard of.

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Jan 17th 2013, 5:28:09

I'm not sure what you're saying I missed Schilling...

You originally stated that the Leclerc was much taller than the Abrams, and suggested that it was similar in height to the T-55 and M60 tanks.

I don't know much about tanks, but somewhere I picked up the idea that the Russians really liked to build low tanks during WWII. Because of this, it surprised me that the T-55 would be an example of a "tall tank", so I went and looked up the specs.

Here's what I found:

T-55: 2.4m
M1A1/2 Abrams: 2.44m
AMX-56 Leclerc: 2.53m
M-60 Patton: 3.63m

As you can see, the T-55 is actually shorter than the Abrams (not taller, as you implied) and the Leclerc is only marginally taller than the Abrams, certainly far closee to the Abrams' height than to the M60 as you asserted.

Your recollections of the Leclerc "56 being nearly a full foot taller (or more) than the Abrams" are incorrect. Therefore, that does not have the effect of "closing the distance on [my] T-60(sic) theory".

It is indeed true that "the T-55 is a closer comparison [to the Leclerc] than say the T-72 or the T-80". However, since you used the T-55 as a reference point for indicating how much taller than the Abrams the Leclerc is, and the T-55 is actually shorter I don't think this redeems your credibility. At best, it shows that there were tanks which would have been even worse choices for comparison than the T-55... so, good job. You didn't choose the worst comparison possible.

As for your claim that you "didn't get anything ass backwards". Kusso. You effectively stated "The Leclerc is way taller than the Abrams, just like the T-55". Since the T-55 is actually shorter than the Abrams, it's hard to argue that's not ass backwards.

Back to what I said at the start of this thread though, what are the few things I missed?

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Jan 17th 2013, 2:26:06

Schilling, is this meant to be your area of expertise? Your comment that you've "seen a few of those come across [your] desk over the last few months" made me assume you were a professional in this field, but you seem to be dead-wrong on some easily verifiable details.

For example:
Originally posted by Schilling:
The tank is a AMX-56 Leclerc, with the 120mm cannon. (...) This particular unit has several variations and is considered almost up to par with the Abrams system (the only drawback is a slightly higher/taller profile, more similar to the M-60/T-55s).


The Leclerc is only about 3 inches taller than the Abrams... not even close to the height of the M-60, which is over 2.5 feet taller. And the T-55 is actually shorter than any of the others.

Now, I'm definitely no expert. Maybe there's something I'm missing... but that seems like a pretty concrete, easily verifiable, and fairly significant piece of information to do with any tanks. The fact that you seem to have gotten it completely ass backwards makes me doubt your credibility as a whole.

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Jan 16th 2013, 2:45:01

The fact that you felt the need to come to AT for affirmation completely repudiates anything positive that this relationship might otherwise have demonstrated about you.

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Jan 11th 2013, 14:09:46

Originally posted by Klown:
Has ANYONE here called for the impeachment of Obama over the use of executive orders? Executive orders.... used by presidents since George Washington? NO.


Actually, yes. In this very thread, in fact. Monnex seemed to be quite clear in his call for the impeachment of Obama.

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Jan 11th 2013, 0:01:51

Uh... that's completely wrong King.

If a regulation is enacted which violates the second amendment, it makes no difference whether or not it originated in congress or as an executive order.

Likewise, if a regulation could be enacted by congress without it being a violation of the second amendment, it would not be a violation of the second amendment if enacted by executive order.

Legislative approval has no connection what-so-ever to the determination of it's constitutionality under the second amendment.

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Jan 10th 2013, 22:36:53

Originally posted by King_Cobra1:
Correct Crest. What most people don't understand is Executive orders can be struck down by the supreme court Also. So, even if obama gets the gun ban executive order. Will it pass the Supreme Court. I'm 99% sure not. The question though is how fast will it take the Supreme Court to strike it down....


How can you be "99% sure" it won't get through the supreme court when you have no information about what the executive order would include?

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Jan 10th 2013, 4:46:51

I don't see what you guys are kibitzing about. There's nothing in that article which suggests the 2nd amendment will be violated.

There have been many laws enforced in America's history which restrict the use and ownership of various arms. Many of these laws are more stringent than what's in place now, and have been upheld by the supreme court as constitutional.

Therefore, it is possible to enforce additional restrictions on arms without violating the second amendment.

There's a limit to how far these restrictions could go, but since we have no details of what's intended we can't make that judgement yet. Because of this, crying foul now does nothing but demonstrate that you're a political hack who's more interested in political posturing than in actually examining the pros and cons of proposed solutions.

In some ways, this actually makes things easier for the rest of us. It tells us who we can ignore when details do become available.

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Dec 30th 2012, 14:53:37

This is a dumb thing to do, despite being protected under the first ammendment.

But then, doing dumb thing just because there's an ammendment to say you can is something all gun owners ought to be familiar with.

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Dec 27th 2012, 18:42:15

Cerberus, I find it sort of ironic that having put so much emphasis into the fact that there has "NEVER been a successfull[sic] Black led nation", you're now getting anal about only talking about "modern" nations.

Fortunately, your attempt to back out of your idiotic position doesn't make it a whole lot harder to prove you wrong. Now, keeping in mind that "modern", "successful" and "black nation" are all terms whose meanings are debatable, let me give you a small sample of your ignorance.

The Bahamas, are a stable parliamentary democracy for 40 years, with a Net GDP only slightly lower than that of France, Britain or Japan (UN, 2011). The population is approximately 85% black, with a black Prime Minister. This is an open and shut case, an undeniably successful modern nation which is predominantly black and led by a black government.

Equitorial Guinea is another example, with an even higher Net GDP -- still near to, but slightly ahead of Britain, France and Japan. This is despite one of the most tragic histories of any nation in the world. Their accomplishments are almost entirely their own, and awfully impressive.

Seychelles, Trinidad and Barbados are all very similar stories to the Bahamas, though with net GDPs closer to Israel, Saudi Arabia and Russia respectively. Stable, democratic, strong economies. Hard to argue against their success.

I also find it hard to quantify South Africa, Nigeria or Egypt as anything but "successful nations"... at least, not without limiting the number of "successful nations" to about 20 -- the vast majority of which would be European. All three have problems, but nothing beyond those common in all but a handful of other countries.

You challenged me to name one, there's a half dozen. You can take issue with any individual one you like, you won't be able to dismiss them all. Even within your backed-down criteria, you're still flat out wrong.

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Dec 25th 2012, 18:42:22

Dibs, that would make sense if people we can't trust with guns only killed themselves with them.

Kudos for pointing out that those wanting to deport piers for his views on the second ammendment are violating his first ammendment rights, though.

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Dec 25th 2012, 15:35:42

George of the Jungle

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Dec 16th 2012, 15:44:43

Q: How can a shooting happen without guns?
A: It can't.

Hard to argue with that one.

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Dec 16th 2012, 15:20:33

Hey Blade, nice to see you around again.

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Dec 7th 2012, 23:58:44

I can't find a source saying it's been cancelled. I see some people talking about the possibility, but no official announcement. Anyone got a link?

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Dec 5th 2012, 0:21:37

I'd probably invest it prudently...

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Nov 28th 2012, 2:25:03

Hey orgazmo, great to see you again. You'd find a bunch of the old faces still in imag.

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Nov 27th 2012, 5:41:27

http://en.wikipedia.org/...nusz_Radziwi%C5%82%C5%82_(1880%E2%80%931967)

That's my Grandmother's uncle through marriage. His spouse (Anna Lubomirska) is my great grandfather's sister. Incidentally, their son married Jackie Kennedy's sister.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cassels

That's my grandfather. He just celebrated his 90th birthday, and Trinity College had a rather spectacular dinner I was able to attend. I don't have any idea how much the wine list was worth, but I imagine it was the most expensive night of drinking I'll ever have in my life.

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Nov 27th 2012, 5:31:45

Okay, fair enough. I guess as long as we identify the difference between the two we don't need to specify which we're asking about.

Here's another, somewhat related question which I thought of as I was seeing how much of my family tree Wikipedia could trace:

Who is your nearest relative who has a Wikipedia article about them?

On my dad's side, it's my grandfather. On my mom's side, it's my Grandmother's Uncle.

(Extra points for the length of the article)

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Nov 27th 2012, 5:12:06

How well do we need to be able to trace it? Do we simply need to know we're a descendant? Or do we need to be able to trace it generation by generation?

For example, I know that my surname stems from Clan Kennedy in Scotland. So I can presumably trace myself back to the earliest members of that family. But I couldn't do it step by step.

On the other hand, I know that my Great Grandfather (my Mother's Father's Father) was a Hrabia (roughly equivelant to a Count) in Poland. I know that I can trace his lineage back to at least 1363, when Kristinas Astikas was born.

Which of these counts?

Not that I suppose it matters much in my case... given the amount that European royal familities have inter-married, though, I could probably explore my family tree more and find a direct link to whomever is the earliest known antecedent to any European royal family. Of course, just about anyone here who knows their nearest link to European royalty could probably link themselves to the same individual.

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Nov 26th 2012, 13:48:41

Originally posted by Cerberus:
Not to be appearing racist here, but, there has NEVER been a successfull Black led nation, not in recorded history at least.


That might be the most ignorant post ever to appear on Earth's forums.

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Nov 25th 2012, 14:20:01

Pretty sure he wasn't red x. Striker was always pretty coherent when he wrote, nothing Dare wrote ever made any sense. I don't see how they could have been the same person.

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Nov 22nd 2012, 4:45:06

I'm betting it's nothing of major significance to anyone outside the scientific community. At best, an incremental step supporting the possibility that life could have once existed on Mars, but nothing conclusive.

Probably less significant than proof that water once existed in significant quantities on the planet.

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Nov 20th 2012, 5:48:39

Originally posted by qzjul:
Thanksgiving was like a month ago.


+1

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